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[Trouble]

Hey Lunaria, I have a question.  How do I beat level 8 well the second half of level 8.  Because I'm just lost.  I've found the dungeon item but after that I just feel like I'm running in circles and have nothing than a lot of rupees to show for it. Help please.

[Mani Kanina]

Hey Lunaria, I have a question.  How do I beat level 8 well the second half of level 8.  Because I'm just lost.  I've found the dungeon item but after that I just feel like I'm running in circles and have nothing than a lot of rupees to show for it. Help please.

I'll assume you're playing on normal.

Are you missing the big key?

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Try exploring the room with the aquamentus a bit more, it has a second trick to it aside from the normal key.

[Trouble]

And that was all I was missing.  Does that mean that that one puzzle involving the moving blocks does nothing?  I was racking my head for way to long on that.

[Mani Kanina]

And that was all I was missing.  Does that mean that that one puzzle involving the moving blocks does nothing?  I was racking my head for way to long on that.

There are two block puzzles in the dungeon, not sure which one you're referring to but...:

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One of them is solvable, and gives a small key (this dungeon actually has an extra small key), the other one isn't solvable.

[Old Man]

I'm stuck in level 6. I can't activate the switches. What do I need for them? I've explored almost everything. I have 17 shards and 16 HC.

[Mani Kanina]

I'm stuck in level 6. I can't activate the switches. What do I need for them? I've explored almost everything. I have 17 shards and 16 HC.

You activate them with the dungeon item.

Spoiler

if you have the map then you can see the top left section of the level on it. You need to make your way there, the paths between segments aren't marked on the map.

Edited by Lunaria, 26 July 2016 - 01:20 PM.

[Old Man]

Thank you. Now I can finish this level. I really like this game.

[Russ]

So I have a question out of curiosity.. You mentioned hard mode has different dungeons. How different are they? I know you dislike the IoR normal/hard mode approach, but I do think it has its merits. For example, I like challenging quests in terms of combat, so I usually play on harder difficulties if given the option. But if a quest also changes the dungeon layout dramatically, I might feel like I'm getting cheated out of content, and I'd have to replay it on normal to see the dungeons that weren't in hard. But then I'd be taking less damage from enemies and I wouldn't be enjoying the combat as much. So it can be a double edged sword.

Ideally, I think a hard mode would up damage output and make the enemy ai a little more challenging. But in general, I don't like the concept of delegating certain features to only one difficulty (for example, at one point you gave an example of the optional objectives in Perfect Dark). That would just make me feel like I'm missing out on content by not being good enough to play on hard mode. Even in stuff like this quest, without knowing how much the dungeons change between difficulties, I'd worry that I'm missing out on some awesome normal mode dungeons by playing on hard.

[Mani Kanina]

Russ: It's kind of hard to answer that perspective from me given that I made it. But personally the idea I had with the re-wamped dungeons was to offer the same type of experience, just harder. The main appeal for hardmode in this quest was to offer replay value though, the difficulty selection process at the starts mentions that hard is for those who have played/beaten the quest before. But I leave that choice to the players, because I'm fairly certain that there are players who know full well that they'd probably not get any enjoyment out of normal.

Design wise, level 1 through 4 got the most sweeping changes for hard mode, what a lot of additional rooms and leaps in logic. But many, if not most, puzzles are still based on the same ideas as the normal version. Level 5 through 7 only have fairly small changes, since I was already of the opinion that they were large enough in scale and did not need to be expanded. Level 8 is the odd one out since the reverse treatment was needed. Level 8 was one of the biggest complaints with the original quest, despite attempts at making it easier/more manageable. So instead I made a completely new dungeon for level 8 in normal mode and left the old one for hard. The new level 8 still features similar themes as the old one..., just not as extreme/stupid.

But like I said at top, I can't really judge how well I succeeded with this, but the goal here was to offer the same experience: but harder, and also mess with the expectations of returning players. (To make any replay a bit more interesting). So rather, it's probably better for players who have played both modes to chime in on this than it is for me. :I

[Mario]

I am stuck on level 7 on hard...

 

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I spent hours trying to find 1 key, but couldn't... i bombed every wall, killed every enemy, and went through every wall that you can...i'm under the impression that my game is glitched, but not sure.

 

i feel like that top door should be opened, but not entirely sure if i'm just missing something or what.

[Mani Kanina]

I am stuck on level 7 on hard...
 

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I spent hours trying to find 1 key, but couldn't... i bombed every wall, killed every enemy, and went through every wall that you can...i'm under the impression that my game is glitched, but not sure.

i feel like that top door should be opened, but not entirely sure if i'm just missing something or what.

It's solvable but it requires a bit of outside of the box thinking, and hard assumes you're familiar with the regular level structure enough.

Spoiler

You're missing one or more walk-through wall, there are rooms in this dungeon which aren't marked on the dungeon map.

[Mario]

Spoiler

yeah, but the one key i got in an unmarked room has already been used,, and can't find any more hidden rooms, and only found 3. don't have the big key or magic key. the unmarked rooms i went into are 2 of the center ones and one on the bottom left. is there another one i'm missing and just can't find?

 

to clarify, it's this particular key door I can't find a way around:

[Mani Kanina]

Hmm well, you're missing at least one key from the earlier parts of the dungeon then....

Spoiler

In one room in the lower right side there is an odd "raised" looking floor tile, if you step on that a chest appears.

[Mario]

yup, that was what i was missing. Thanks

[Eddy]

So I've been playing this on and off for quite a while now, and I just started going through the Temple of Souls. I noticed I need the Gold Arrows to progress, and I found some in a shop that costs 510 rupees... though I can only carry up to 500. So I'm very sure I missed a wallet upgrade somewhere, but where is it?

 

I found some moon symbols on the floor (one in the mountains and one in Tropara) that look like this:

Do these actually do anything or are they just there for decoration?

 

 

Edit: Nvm, finally found the next wallet upgrade. Though there really should've been a hint or something rather than hiding it on a random screen like that (unless birds on a screen mean there's a secret or something, then that would be fine). Still dunno what's up with the moon symbols though...