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[peteandwally]

I love the design and story so far. I got myself killed several times exploring and then went into dungeons. Great job!

There is only one snag I've hit. I made it into Jabu Jabu and got to a point with dodongos, only to realize I had no bombs. This turned into 10 minutes of slashing at bushes (inside a fish?) to get 4 bombs. It was kind of tedious, so try to consider adding an enemy or two that could drop clusters of 4 bombs next time you throw in a dodongo room. Otherwise, it's not really more difficult, just less immersive.

[Aevin]

HylianGlacion: Thanks so much for playing! The "bait" item occupies the same place as the magic key you received from Lv9. (In fact, the fish is a key and not a bait at all.) If there's a gap in your usable items and you have all three spells, my guess is you're missing another item located underwater ... (See spoiler for details).

As for the Gibdo thing ... Bombs will still harm them when you've been caught. I don't do it often, but the gibdos ARE supposed to do that. Your options are meant to be limited, but I should have considered not everyone would have bombs. I'll probably take your advice about the hammer. I toned it down significantly from the default because it just seemed way too strong.

Moosh: The later levels are meant to mimic the dungeon cracking of the original Zelda. However, enough people seem frustrated with it that I'm rethinking it. I may keep a few cases, but a lot of the more opaque walk-through and bomb spots will have additional clues pointing to them. I'm also going to come up with some more puzzles to engage the player more, rather than just getting them lost.

peteandwally: Sorry for the trouble there. I might make Dodongos drop bombs 100% naturally, because it seems to be a recurring problem.

Thanks for your time, everyone, and I want you to know I'm taking all your suggestions into account for future versions.

Spoiler

The Cane of Byrna may be what you're missing. It's located underwater, near the eastern edge of the map. If you look very carefully, there's a mound of sand hidden underneath a clump of seaweed. If you're really determined to get the last heart piece, I can provide you with a list.

Edited by Aevin, 13 March 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[Moosh]

Moosh: The later levels are meant to mimic the dungeon cracking of the original Zelda. However, enough people seem frustrated with it that I'm rethinking it. I may keep a few cases, but a lot of the more opaque walk-through and bomb spots will have additional clues pointing to them. I'm also going to come up with some more puzzles to engage the player more, rather than just getting them lost.

This isn't what I have a problem with. It's mainly the execution. The more confusing you make your levels the more you need to accommodate for the player's confusion. A good way to counterbalance the Zelda 1 bombable wall issue is to give out the map fairly early in the level or maybe even give the player spacebar map access. Look at Level 7 for example; you gave out the map at the very end of the dungeon when it's completely useless to the player. Why not move it to one of the early rooms in the dungeon?

[Aevin]

Yeah, you're right ... The map placement there wasn't well thought out. Hmm ... It's almost as if game design is HARD! Thanks again.

[bf2mongo]

I was looking for level 7 and I think I just did level 8 instead. Is that the one located on top of the mountain? I got the magic bow thing and the fire boomerang. If this is level 8 can you tell me where 7 is....

[Aevin]

It's in the desert. You can get in there easily with the hookshot, but finding the level itself is a little more difficult. If you need help once you've explored the desert, check the spoiler.

Spoiler

You're meant to collect four desert tablets to reveal the answer to a maze path. The correct path is west, east, north, north.

[bf2mongo]

I found all the direction disks already.. but where is the maze? The only thing I see is the graveyard to the north.

[Aevin]

There's a cave in the upper left of the graveyard.

[Love For Fire]

In the trial of power, the next to last room looks like its set up to have a Gleeok type boss but it is empty.

[Aevin]

Thanks for letting me know.

It's very odd, though, because it shows up in ZQuest and it's never been absent on any of my test runs. Hmmm ... Has anyone else experienced this?

On an unrelated note, here's a mini-guide I've put together for the optional items in the quest. I love hearing from you guys, so don't think you can't ask questions here. Obviously, the guide contains many spoilers:

Spoiler

Heart Pieces:
1. Enter the village item shop from the back and head down the stairs.
2. In the northern valley screen with the rocks arranged in a diamond, bomb the cliff to the left to reveal a cave.
3. In the first screen of the desert, bomb between the skull rocks to reveal a cave. (Required: Projectile Weapon)
4. In the eastern mountains, search for a U-shaped screen populated by bombchus. Bomb on the left to reveal a cave.
5. Head to the dead end in the southeastern part of the mountains to reach a heart piece. (Required: Ladder)
6. In the ruins, there's a heart piece visible up a vine across a small stream. Use the flippers or ladder to reach it. (Required: Ladder)
7. Dive in the fairy pool in the forest. (Required: Flippers)
8. Dive in the center of the Lost Sea near Level 6. (Required: Flippers)
9. In the west part of the coast area, pound the pegs to access a cave. (Required: Hammer)
10. At the base of the waterfall in the southern part of the Lake, dive and then bomb to reveal a cave. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs)
11. Use the Gust Jar to blow away a pile of sand near Level 8 in the mountains. (Required: Ladder, Gust Jar)
12. Access the eastern part of the forest with the hookshot and burn a tree on the screen with many Lynels. (Required: Fire Rod, Hookshot, Light Arrows)

Magic Containers:
1. In the southern part of the ruins, find a screen with many Armos arranged in rows. Wake the upper-right Armos to reveal a passage.
2. In the northern forest, there's a screen with a pair of red Lynels. Burn the furthest right tree to reveal a passage. (Required: Fire Rod)
3. Dive to the south of the long island with the rock on it in the southern part of the coast, and bomb about halfway along it underwater. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs)
4. Pound down the pegs in the Lake area and cut the bushes to reveal a passage. Defeat the monsters with the Fire Rod and solve the puzzle. (Required: Fire Rod, Hammer, Magic Book)
5. In the upper right screen of the Desert graveyard, push a grave to reveal a passage. (Required: Power Bracelet)

Bomb/Ammo Upgrades:
1. In the southwestern most screen of the ruins, there's a patch of bushes across the stream. Cut the bushes to reveal a passage.
2. From the beach in the south of the valley, follow a narrow path right to access a small alcove in the Lake area. Bomb there to reveal a cave.
3. The southwestern most screen in the village has a singular tree on a sheet of ice. Burn the tree to reveal the passage. (Required: Fire Rod)
4. Swimming in the ocean in the coast area, you will find a screen with two small islands. Bomb the cliff on the right island to find a cave. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs)
5. Dive southwest of the waterfall in the Lake area. Search for a spot with two pieces of coral against the northern cliff, and bomb between them. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs)
6. In the lower east part of the desert, there's a dead end full of zombies, where a tablet was hidden. Bomb the wall in the upper right to find a cave.

Optional Items:
None of these items are permanently missable, but all are (technically) not required to finish the game and you may end up skipping them.
- Amulet: Dive in the northern Lake to discover a shop where you can buy it. (Required: Flippers)
- Magic Boomerang: In the Face Shrine, bomb the eastern wall in the room with the torch and the lowering gates. Defeat the Wizzrobes inside for the boomerang. (Required: Fire Rod)
- Fire Boomereang: After getting the Boss Key in Level 8, head back to the non-inverted side of the level near where you received the Light Arrows. Fight the Gohma behind the locked door to receive the boomerang. (Required: Light Arrows)
- Power Bracelet: Wake a single armos enclosed in the "maze" in the western part of the ruins and find the bracelet beneath him.
- Staff of Aquas: On the eastern edge of the ocean, underwater, search for a pile of sand hidden behind a clump of seaweed. Use the bubbles to reveal a passage. (Required: Flippers)
- Farore's Wind: In the dead-end on the western side of the Coast, bomb a cracked wall to reveal a passage. Complete the Trial of Courage within to claim the magic. If you have trouble with the trial, the Lens of Truth will reveal the safe floors.
- Din's Storm: In the dead-end on the eastern side of the mountains, (the area with Lynels and bombchus), bomb the wall near the middle to reveal the entrance to the Trial of Power. Complete the trial to claim the spell.
- Nayru's Love: In the Desert, bomb the left side of the cliff to the south of the graveyard to reveal a cave. Complete the Trial of Wisdom within to claim the magic. The Lens of Truth can help if you find the trial challenging.
- Big Wallet: Dive in the pool in the village, and bomb to reveal a cave. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs)
- Lens of Truth: Dive in a pool at the eastern edge of the ruins and bomb to reveal a cave. Buy the Lens for 450 rupees from the shop inside. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs, Big Wallet)
- Magic Ring: (Faster magic regeneration) Dive in a pool at the eastern edge of the ruins and bomb to reveal a cave. Buy the ring for 350 rupees from the shop inside. (Required: Flippers, Remote Bombs, Big Wallet)
- Blue Tunic: From the forest fairy fountain, head west through some false trees. The passage on the next screen leads to a shop where you can buy the ring for 250 rupees. Alternatively, dive in a pool at the western edge of the ruins, and bomb there to reveal a different shop that sells the ring for the same price.
- Red Tunic: In Level 9, there's a room with Darknuts and Wizzrobes, an electric floor, and many blocks. This is in the "electric floor" section of the level, to the right near the entrance. From this room, bomb to the south, then head through the next room to a room with corner traps. Walk through the wall to the south (the spot's tricky to find), and solve the puzzle to earn the ring.
- Mirror Shield: In Level 7, head right just before the boss room. Shoot the eye with the slingshot or arrows to clear out some of the blocks in the room, then defeat the enemies and push a block to open the passageway and claim the shield.
- White Sword: In the northwest most screen of the mountains is a passageway. Inside, battle some enemies to follow the path that leads to the sword.
- Magic Sword: Use the hookshot to access the eastern most part of the forest. When you reach a small graveyard, push one of the graves to reveal a passageway. (Required: Hookshot, Power Bracelet)
- Beam Sword: After clearing the main game, use the key you received to open the locked door in the beach area of the Valley. Complete the Boss Archives and choose the passage in the room with the sword symbol. (Required: Vagnum's Key)
- Magic Ring Lv2: (Faster magic regeneration) After clearing the main game, use the key you received to open the locked door in the beach area of the Valley. Complete the Boss Archives and choose the passage in the room with the wand symbol. (Required: Vagnum's Key)
- Purple Tunic: After clearing the main game, use the key you received to open the locked door in the beach area of the Valley. Complete the Boss Archives and choose the passage in the room with the shield symbol. (Required: Vagnum's Key)

Edited by Aevin, 15 March 2013 - 02:03 PM.

[Spelunker]

Looking for the flippers. I've bombed, whistled and burned just about everywhere in the Coastal area.

[Artistic]

Looking for the flippers. I've bombed, whistled and burned just about everywhere in the Coastal area.

Flippers are in level 4.

[Spelunker]

Flippers are in level 4.

Ok, where is level 4?

[Lukaz]

level 4 is 2 screens east from start

[peachstar]

I have the flippers and am looking for lvl 6. I read that it is in the water in the south east, but I cannot find it .... help please, I've been looking for a couple days now ..