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[TheLegend_njf]

I just added my previous posts I just made into a spoiler tag because I wasn't thinking about that when I posted it. Sorry about that. 

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 29 August 2016 - 04:54 PM.

[Norzan]

Is standard like Normal IoR?

[TheLegend_njf]

Spoiler

I think I'm going to give up on Frogger-X for Swindle until some fix is made for Sasic's rock attack. (I've been practicing. lol)

 

Seriously, I love everything about this fight, but I just hate using that attack. 

 

The rock is completely broken in this battle I feel. It's a game changer every single time. I find sometimes the rock doesn't even hit the frog when it's clearly direct contact, and when it does hit the frog, the element doesn't light up even when the frog has taken damage from it, and the attack overall is completely RNG and awful to avoid, and it takes up to 5 hearts of damage! You see everything about this attack is just awful to me. lol

 

I suspect that you gave the rock this price so people refrain from using it during bosses. But when you make a boss that forces you to use this item at least 4 (5 or 6 or even more if the rock just refuses to make contact) times in the battle, and it's just a very nasty attack that turns an enjoyable boss into a not enjoyable boss. 

 

Sorry man, I tried, but I won't be beating this one because of how lame that boulder attack is executed. Consider this the first ZC boss I truly gave up on, but not for the right reasons.

 

On a more positive note though, I know I can beat this boss at least. I came close to at least one or two more hits a few times in this battle. But the rock is total bullshit for me to want to continue at this point. I'll probably just beat the game on Stronger and maybe one day return to Swindle if there is some fix for that worthless boulder item. If anything Evan, it needs better accuracy and less of a price for using it, just don't make it so OP that's all. The attack in it's current state is borderline silly in my opinion.

 

 

Is standard like Normal IoR?

 

I think it's somewhere between Easy and Normal.

 

Technically Stronger is what you'll want to play if you played IoR on Normal.

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 01 September 2016 - 07:32 PM.

[Norzan]

Damn it then, i've been playing on Standard thinking it was as difficult as Normal IoR

Edited by Norzan, 01 September 2016 - 07:13 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

You can switch difficulty at any time. Just return to the sign to switch it to Stronger if you feel Standard is too easy. 

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 01 September 2016 - 07:33 PM.

[Evan20000]

As far as I know, there's no way to change the damage the rocks deal to the player without changing how much they deal to enemies (because of how scripted bombs work), so I can't reduce the damage they deal to you. They've already been made significantly more accurate than they were in past builds. As for hits not registering, do you have a video of this? I thought I worked out most of the element hitreg bugs with Frogger X, but it's entirely possible you found a new one.

 

Sorry to hear you're giving up on the boss.

[Norzan]

The problem is that i like to play the whole game in one difficulty. I started playing Standard because i though it was just Normal, but apparently it's Stronger. By the time i realized that i already got like 3 life upgrades, 3 stamina upgrades and beat the first Tower Guardian but all of that was done on Standard.

 

This is something really dumb to be slightly upset about it, but it's something i can't get over it.

 

I guess i can either start over or just continue.

Edited by Norzan, 01 September 2016 - 08:01 PM.

[Russ]

Honestly, I'd say standard roughly correlates to normal in IoR. Stronger felt about on par with IoR's Hero Mode at times, maybe somewhere in between normal and hero. And Swindling... it lives up to its title and then some.

[TheLegend_njf]

As far as I know, there's no way to change the damage the rocks deal to the player without changing how much they deal to enemies (because of how scripted bombs work), so I can't reduce the damage they deal to you. They've already been made significantly more accurate than they were in past builds. As for hits not registering, do you have a video of this? I thought I worked out most of the element hitreg bugs with Frogger X, but it's entirely possible you found a new one.

 

Sorry to hear you're giving up on the boss.

 

I'll still beat it on Stronger though for my stream, and I'm very confident I can actually beat this boss on Swindle. However, I've just ran out of patience for trying on Swindle mainly because of my above complaints about the boulder attack. 

[Norzan]

Stronger is definitely not Normal IoR. Normal IoR is much easier.

 

 

Also, am i undergeared against the plant boss thingy? Seriously, i can't kill it. I got 5 life upgrades, the hookshot, bombs and hammer.

[TheLegend_njf]

Stronger is definitely not Normal IoR. Normal IoR is much easier.

 

 

Also, am i undergeared against the plant boss thingy? Seriously, i can't kill it. I got 5 life upgrades, the hookshot, bombs and hammer.

 

The plant boss is superboss level from where you are at right now. This is a boss you should save for much later in the game. 

[Norzan]

I got to the phase where it starts to walk around with its plant arms on Stronger but i can't seem to damage it (or at least i don't know where its weak point is). I leave this boss for later.

[Russ]

I would DEFINITELY advise leaving for later. For what it's worth, it IS possible to beat right at the start. I did it on swindling even.



What that picture doesn't show are the 700+ deaths that happened before then. I'd strongly advise coming back with more health and better ranged weapons. FYI though, the weak spot when it walks around is the flower in the middle. It opens periodically to attack, and it's vulnerable then.

[Norzan]

Holy crap, i can't kill Trinexx on Stronger. The battle is way too luck based and several times you HAVE to take damage because you can't get out without getting damage (when all three heads attack at once). Also, the main head feints, just beautiful.

Edited by Norzan, 02 September 2016 - 02:44 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

Trinexx is not that difficult on Stronger. On Swindle however, oh man!

It's gonna get harder from here on out. I ended up quitting Swindle not much long after this.

There's a method to Trinexx when it comes to beating him. Because the two heads have different kind of Attacks you need to Attack them differently. Try learning how to pull the ice head through fire that's already on the ground.

There is some luck factor to all these bosses I find. That's because they all have pretty high RNG. Your skill can only get you so far. So a good amount of patience is important. I'm not a big fan of the "luck aspect" of these battles either, but it isn't that bad once you figure out how these bosses work.

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 02 September 2016 - 02:59 PM.