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[Zolias]

Yeah, you need to resolve the room with the mirrors. Think about it, it's very tricky and you need coordination.

 

Thanks Luigi, I figured it out now and completed Soltis.  I'm still facepalming how simple the answer was despite how difficult it looked.

[Zolias]

Spoiler

...could this be the secret of the Soul Game Box?

 

 

[Teamudf]

Blademaster Kuro:

Spoiler

Nah, that's just one of many inside jokes and references within the quest. Everything involving the Soul Game secret can actually be found close to the Soul Game house.

 

It's just difficult to actually stumble into because it's meant to be one of most obscure secrets.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT (7-21-2014): The newest update is out!

 

Changes (in horribly organized fashion):

 

- Maximum Heart Containers are now 15 (good karma) and 16 (bad karma) instead of 14 and 15. The number of Heart Pieces in the quest is now 20 instead of 16, but you don't exactly have to go on a hunt for the new 4 Heart Pieces individually. The new goodies can be obtained once you have the Blood Note, an arm, and a leg.

 

- Downgraded a couple of the 100-Rupees to 50. I left both 200-Rupees alone though. There are currently 1705 Rupees you can obtain without abusing any of the infinite money sources. (1706 if you count the half-joke at the very beginning of the game.) It is now impossible to buy everything in one playthrough without using at least one infinite source (thanks mostly in part to the next thing).

 

- Added a second secret shop where you can drop quite a few Rupees. The indicator is very well hidden though because the shop also contains a hint for the final mega tier secret.

 

- Removed several leftover triggers that were from the beta version of the game and no longer useful.

- Added some text to the final room of the escape sequence to make it more obvious that you're meant to ultimately lose (you can still pick up the Heart Container). I also removed the color switch in that room so it doesn't seem possible to break through.

- After seeing enough people get confused by it, I added a message block to the mirror puzzle room in Soltis confirming that the lock block there is just a shortcut back to the entrance.

 

- A lot of earlier triggers in the game are now more obvious.

- Some blocks are updated to show push direction.

- Iliss, the one room dungeon, now has an additional NPC outside the house to make it more obvious the dungeon can be completed sooner.

- Added a guard to Myso making the abandoned house bad karma item more obvious (he mentions how it's property of the state).

- Finally changed one of Duke's books to not be a copy of an earlier one.

 

- Something Dan is tired of fixing. He knows what it is and how thankful I am for it to be (hopefully, finally, definitely forever) fixed.

- Removed an issue where the Lucky Trinkets were giving the player 100 Rupees in addition to the upgraded Wand. You can still obtain the 100 Rupees later if you happen to pick up an extra Lucky Trinket you didn't need. (This was its original purpose but there was a paradox in how I was setting it up. A script change by Evan helped fix this.)

- A silly oversight on one of the bonus secrets.

- Random minor typos and things that annoyed me about the dialogue.

 

- A lot of small graphical updates or changes.

 

 

Thanks again to everyone who has been helping point stuff out and giving me feedback.

Edited by Teamudf, 21 July 2014 - 03:18 PM.

[SyrianBallaS]

hey im like stuck at the entrance of truth and cant move from there, but can go down

[Teamudf]

Hey Ghost,

 

You need the Mask of Truth to enter that dungeon. If you have it already, grab the latest update. There was a small quirk when I last updated the game.

[SyrianBallaS]

It works now I dont know what to do with the boss key now

[Teamudf]

Ghost:

Spoiler

If you're having trouble using the Boss Key, try to find some small keys and proceed through locked doors. There's something waiting for you behind one of the later teleporters.

[Zolias]

Ghost, I have to admit the last dungeon can be a pain, but just believe in your strengths and I'm sure you'll make it through!  Just believe!

 

Time to go sell some masks now...

Edited by Zolias, 22 July 2014 - 04:37 AM.

[Joki]

Hi Team UDF,

 

Great quest! but got a number of questions...

 

1) Can you get beyond the barrel in the over world?

2) How do you enter Soltis?

3) The man with the cane below the entrance to Soltis. Anything I can do on that screen?

4) How do you beat the room with 3 ropes in in the burn a rope game?

5) Is there any significance with the house that contains the Eppy feather? Cant make progress there….

6) What is the deal with the abandoned house?

7) Once you've killed duke, is there anything left to do in Brace Dest? Im thinking along the lines of the room on the top right of 3F which allures to the four elements on the hint tiles. 

8. Is the final boss Kouru in the truth? Cant beat him at all...

9) Max number of bombs?

10) Need a hint to get the key on the beach….

 

That'll do for now, but if I think of anything else, I'll be sure to ask! lol

Edited by Joki, 22 July 2014 - 05:59 AM.

[Useless Old Man Wisdom]

 

What am I doing wrong in this room? Is the shutter door a red herring?

[SyrianBallaS]

These are the only places that look suspicious but i have no idea what to do

[Russ]

GhostKnight, the answer's on this screen:



That's a boss lock block up there in the corner. Use the Stardust Scepter to reveal the hidden spikes in the room, and make your way up to that switch. If I'm remembering correctly, that will remove the statues and let you pick up the most fun item in the game.

[Teamudf]

Hey Joki, here are your answers itemized:

Spoiler

1. Yes, but you need a special item from Soltis.

 

2. Use the Paradox Hover Boots to obtain a special item in Truth, and then use that item to obtain another item from an older dungeon. (A bird in the southern part of Plergoth has the hint for this.)

 

3. There is a secret on that screen, but you need a rather powerful item to open it. Otherwise it's just a reference / shoutout screen.

 

4. With the Blue Candle, very patiently. I find either the top-right or the bottom-middle the easiest place to lead all three, but it can be a pain to get them all to align. So far, Jubbz has the quickest kill on them out of any of the playthroughs because he was massively lucky with the positioning. Beyond that room though, there are Ropes that require three hits with the Candle so you have to be perfect with bouncing damage on the Candle. The game isn't really meant to be finished with the Blue Candle, but it's possible. If you're having too much trouble, you're able to find a secret shop with the Red Candle even on a Good Karma.

 

5. It's mostly a reference house but also points out a couple things you would be doing later in the quest (the crystal switches, etc). I wanted to give the True Champion thing a whole house dedicated to it, basically.

 

6. One of the weirder places, the abandoned house has a hint in Soul Game on what to do. You need the Hookshot to reach an odd book, and then to have some patience when in a room with boots and a mysterious teleporter. Once you've obtained one item from inside the house, you can stop exploring it.

 

7. The Heart of the Soulless can only be obtained if you played a run entirely on Bad Karma.

 

8. Kaoru is nearly impossible to beat with basic equipment so you may want to try again some other time. He's intended to be the big bonus boss of the game but there are definitely items that help you against him (like the Cane of Byrna). So keep an eye out for more powerful bonus items. You get a bonus ending for beating him but that's about it. The other endings can all be found in Truth but you should take a close look around.

 

9. 13

 

10. That key on the beach is the final mega tier secret in the game, so I've been pretty closed about getting to it. I will say that a secret shop in the new version as well as some poking around in the other mega tier secrets will offer hints about it, but other than that, yeah, I kind of throw you in the deep end about finding it. It's meant to be the most obscure secret in the game because of its reward.

 

 

Marv:

Spoiler

You're making that room a little too complicated. Take a closer look at where the statues' eyes are pointed when you first enter the room.

 

 

Ghost:

Spoiler

Do as Russ said, but if the boss lock block isn't working, head back to the area in your bottom-left picture and go a little further. One of the rooms with the Floor Masters has something for you.

[Omnathious]

OK, I am going to say i am stuck now.  I have looked around for quite some time looking for the next dungeon and cant find it, and I can't progress any further into Brace Dest.

 

I have completed the 3rd dungoen have the Hookshot, Blood Note, and Cane of Byrna.

[Joki]

OK, I am going to say i am stuck now. I have looked around for quite some time looking for the next dungeon and cant find it, and I can't progress any further into Brace Dest.

I have completed the 3rd dungoen have the Hookshot, Blood Note, and Cane of Byrna.

Have you seen Eppy's play through of Brace Dest? https://www.youtube....h?v=zIMi5o1idBs

Also, Team UDF. When you say for question 2, obtain another item from the truth, are you referring to the mirror shield? Also, not sure which older dungeon to use it in...

Edited by Joki, 22 July 2014 - 06:49 PM.