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[Air Luigi]

I feel like I've been sucking at this game a lot recently. There's nothing with it mind you, but I guess whenever I play a new quest, I am usually only good at it if I know what I am doing.

 

Same here. It's because the quest has a lot of new mechanics and a personal and unique style of design, which is something great.So, you need to relearn, like if it was your first played Zelda game. Creative placement of secrets it's one of the more important things in the making of a quest, sometimes more than the design itself. 

[Gendof]

I've been puzzling over the "one block, two switch" room in Brace Dent for an hour with no progress.

Can someone please give me a better hint than shown earlier?

Thanks.

[CastChaos]

After (kinda...) beating sanskrit temple, what to do in Brace Dest for the 2nd time? The only new way I seen leads to a room where the path is blocked by traps. I seen in an Eppy video that he just tanked it and there was no immediate penalty, but I would love to know what to do legally. I looked around outside, too, but I found only a magic container and no plot progression parts.

If you ask, I did save the girl before (kinda) beating the sanskrit boss and after the boss, I got till a HC, but not out from the temple. I'm also trying to play as virtuous as possible.

[Teamudf]

Gendof:

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Think about it in terms of what you see when you originally get in the room - there are zero switches when you first get inside. How many do you really need to solve the puzzle?

 

 

CastChaos:

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If you have the Bow, you can get further in Brace Dest, but you'll be stopped eventually if you don't get another dungeon item first. The other dungeon needs a Super Bomb in order to access it. The Stardust Scepter can help you access Super Bombs, or if you find a certain cave, you can buy them.

 

Since you saved Karnelia, she has some dialogue that gives you an idea on where the dungeon is. Someone in the Dojo also has information on it.

 

Well-done on the escape sequence! Currently there's no way to get out of the temple, so the Heart Container is the best thing you can get for now.

[CastChaos]

Answer for Teamudf:

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I don't have the bow, so I go and search for something to superbomb at Winterfall.

I found one superbomb so far and I was saving it.

 

MAN! So there's NO way to get out from the temple?! Oh, I kept F6 retrying each time I died because I wanted to get out so very much! I thought it would have given me the option to join the Blood Sword and so be able to do something with those blood drop marked things all around, including getting further in Brace Dest...

I wanted it so much that I almost gave up on the quest entirely, only thing that saved the cause was the HC. For I guessed it was more than nothing.

 

Oh man. This quest. THIS QUEST. I haven't been feeling these feels ever since very long. The feeling of almost wanting to give up but keeping to try over and over in hope later it gets easier and always fun.

 

I still say this is how quests usually should be ever since 2.50 came out. This quest to 2.50 is like Doublevision, Eckland, Freedom's quests, Akkabus' quests and Rockfan's quests to 2.10. (Or 1.92, respectively.)

Edited by CastChaos, 19 July 2014 - 03:01 PM.

[Air Luigi]

Castchaos:

 

Spoiler

The bow is in Plergoth

 

Before Brace Dest, You need another item from another dungeon in Winterfall

Edited by Air Luigi, 19 July 2014 - 03:52 PM.

[Zolias]

Trying to find my way through Soltis.  I got keys from every obvious area (including the one given the answer south from the maze puzzle on the 5th floor).  Also found the big chest and the boss room (saved after discovering the chest and before using the key for the path towards the boss room in case I was missing anything, or using the key I had left would screw something up).  I could unlock the teleporter from the entrance to the mirror room, or go to the Boss Key Door.  So far I've followed a -mostly- linear dungeon with intense puzzles, and some hidden doors (and yes, I already beat the Aquamentus and got the key; kinda vicious way to do so, I might add).  So, with what I've done, I have access to the 5th floor up to the mirror room, with one dungeon key for one of two blocks.  Am I missing something obvious, because it's starting to make my brain hurt.
 

I WANT TO BUY A HINT COIN!

Edited by Blademaster Kuro, 19 July 2014 - 09:44 PM.

[Teamudf]

CastChaos:

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Yeah sorry about that. It's mainly just worth the Heart Container for now. Glad you're keeping at it though! Thank you for the compliments.

 

Blademaster Kuro:

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Use your colors more often and you'll find an exit to use your keys at.

Edited by Teamudf, 19 July 2014 - 09:52 PM.

[Zolias]

That's the thing: I've used every 'color' I could find, and I'm still stuck.  I only have a single dungeon key left after using the others to go through doors on every floor, and two possible blocks to use them on: one that leads to the 'invincibility and tenacity' puzzle and the 'color maze' with a boss door, and the one that opens a teleporter in the 'mirror room' to the entrance.  I've checked every nook and cranny of what I can find, and the only possible solution I can see is going beyond the 'mirror room' on the 5th floor.  However, every time I try to, after the first mirror, I get stuck behind it and have to restart it.  I think I need the boss key, or some way to open the big chest.

 

With reading previous comments, I've seen something called 'Goddess of Wisdom'.  What is that, something like Parallel Worlds? (I got the reference with the crows).  If so, I've never played it, nor have I heard of it before that comment, so I have no clue what's going on with that.

 

It's just getting frustrating and tedious at this point.  

Edited by Blademaster Kuro, 20 July 2014 - 10:44 AM.

[Air Luigi]

Yeah, you need to resolve the room with the mirrors. Think about it, it's very tricky and you need coordination.

[CastChaos]

All right, the battery is running out.

 

I turned Plergoth upside down, but no bow. I looked through the map of Winterfall, but no any superbomb spot that is even at least a bit suspicious.

 

I realized that stars aren't the sole indicators of the green wand use (even though the quest totally made me believe that... you know, right in the room where I got that wand... powered by the Plergoth boy's hint...), so I found more locations, but all of them required either arrows or that blood drop indicated anything.

 

 

I need an actual hint, not just things like "you need xy item that you don't have", "it's in XY very big area somewhere", "it's tricky" and such.

I need the bow first (AND arrows and quiver if they exist separately) to be able to go further in Brace Dest (I think I'm close to the hookshot), then the location of the next dungeon (I like to explore maximally before each mandatory area, especially because the trap difficulty in this quest).

[Russ]

CastChaos: For the bow, look in the south of Plergoth. There's a crystal switch you can hit with wand magic to open a path towards a one screen dungeon. Your bow is in there. For the next dungeon, go to Winterfall Path. There's a screen with a big boulder and a heart container piece you need the Stardust Scepter to reach. Superbomb the big boulder, then walk down the path and solve the block puzzle at the end to get to the next level.

[Teamudf]

Blademaster Kuro:

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Look more closely at the eye statues outside the Invincibility and Tenacity room. You should be able to get through the Shutter door. You alluded to a boss key door earlier though so you might already be able to access that area.

 

There are enough keys to open everything though, so I'm guessing you're missing the key from the Skull Shield hint. There are two rooms that look identical to each other, but one is hidden behind a fake wall. The Stardust Scepter and Mirror Shield will net you the extra key.

 

The mirror puzzle key block is nothing more than a shortcut though since I felt failing at the mirror puzzle and climbing all the way back up would be a hassle. If you have the Big Key from the short boss fight and the spare key to get at the spike / statue room before the Invincibility / Tenacity  puzzle, you're able to finish the dungeon without consequence. If the blue switches are blocking your path, you can flip them in the room that looks identical to the Skull Shield room.

 

 

CastChaos: Russ has it. I'll add that the one-screen dungeon can be solved without any additional items - all you need is wand magic.

Edited by Teamudf, 20 July 2014 - 01:23 PM.

[Useless Old Man Wisdom]

 

I've been stuck at this room for an hour or two, and the hints so far aren't working for me. I need something a little more idiot proof than what is already stated in this thread

 

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I have a pretty good idea of the directions to go as per the mirrors (right, right, left, up) but I have no idea what to do with the eye statues. Do I shoot them all with the starlight sceptor each time I enter the room, or just one of them? IE, do I shoot the leftmost eye statue before I go through the first door, then progressively shoot the statues from left to right before I go through the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th door?

 

[Teamudf]

Marv Albert:

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The lines from the mirrors are only going between the middle two color tiles, so those are the only ones you need to reverse. One of the harder puzzles in the dungeon and I've had trouble giving out hints without outright telling the player what to do.

 

You don't really need the eye statues until you're ready to go up, in any case. They're just there for the block puzzle.