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[Russ]

Let me say this. Regal was a pain in the butt without the red armor. Any chance you can upload a version that at least places one more vine on that one screen so I can get the red armor? I might be able to get through Ganon with the blue armor, but from what I understand, the new level is tough, and I ain't goin' in there without being fully prepared.

[Shoelace]

Again Shoelace, some of these may not even seem like string errors, so when you read my corrections of them, note that they are just suggestions. You'l see what I mean once you read some of them.

String errors:

Location: Jesus's Casa
String error: "I never seen you in this section of Citadel before"
Correct: Add in "have" after "I" at the beginning of the sentence.
Fixed

Location: Temple of time after 8th triforce piece
String error: "I want to extend my thanks, not only on the behalf of the whole"
Correct: Get rid of the first have in this sentence so it says this instead "I want to extend my thanks, not only on behalf of the whole"
fixed

Location: Links dream after 8th triforce piece
String error: "I am the late Zelda Hyrule"
Correct: Add in "of" after Zelda so it says this. "I am the late Zelda of Hyrule"
That is actually her last name. From Wind Waker the King's name was: Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, so I made it so her last name is carried down. Thus, her last name being Hyrule.

Location: Links dream after 8th triforce piece
String error: "Because he throught you'd revive Ganon the best."
Correct: Change "throught" to "thought"
fixed

Location: Links dream after 8th triforce piece
String error: "Same who sacrificed me"
Correct: Add in "person" after "same" so it says this. "Same person who sacrificed me"
fixed

Location: The Suit Store
String error: "and Jerry who is in the southwestern part of hyrule field"
Correct: Change "southwestern" to "southeastern" because Jerry lives in the southeastern part of Hyrule.
lol, true and correct

Location: Cave of Ordeals second truth stone
String error: "a lot of responsibly for a kid my age..."
Correct: Change "responsibly" to "responsibility so it says this. "a lot of responsibility for a kid my age..."
fixed

Location: Cave of Ordeals 3rd truth stone
String error: "This Donmore gave me so much rupees to research this..."
Correct: add in "guy" after Donmore, change "much" to "many", and add in "just" after rupees so it says this. "This Donmore guy gave me so many rupees just to research this..." Also for this string error I had the word "rupees" capitalized in the quote. I am not entirely confident in that being what it is in the actual string so if you could check to see if it is capitalized, lowercase it and it should be good...Sorry...icon_sweat.gif
Fixed, and the Rupees is capitalized because it is currency. XD

Location: Cave of Ordeals 5th truth stone
String error: "But I didn't question it, my priority was the pricness."
Correct: Change "pricness" to "princess"
fixed

Location: Cave of Ordeals 5th truth stone
String error: "needed to protect her at all cost"
Correct: Change "cost" to "costs"
Fixed

Location: Cave of Ordeals 7th truth stone:
String error: "A destraction for what?"
Correct: Change "destraction" to "distraction"
Fixed

Location: Cave of Ordeals 8th truth stone:
String error: Just had a dream where there was destruction everywhere"
Correct: Make the string more reflective by adding in an "I" before just so the explanation of the string shows how it was he/she that was having a dream where there was destruction everywhere.
Good suggestion, added

Location: Cave of Ordeals 8th truth stone
String error: they were circling the tower with such speed and strength, I never seen anything like it"
Correct: Add in "have" after "I"
fixed

Location: Cave of Ordeals...I don't know what stone this is..I think its the 8th truth stone.
String error: "I could just sense a huge evil power"
Correct: Get rid of "just" so it says this. "I could sense a huge evil power"
fixed

Location: Ganons Tower
String error: "Don't be too long in bringing me your piece!"
Correct: Maybe have it say this instead, "Don't make me wait too long, I want your piece!"
He was being sarcastic, so I will keep the original

Location: Ganons tower deku shrub shop
String error: "These are some items that you most likely need when fighting him"
Correct: Change "you" to "you'l"
fixed

Location: Ganons Tower - Ganon
String error: "But this time is different"
Correct: Change "is" to "it's"
fixed

Location: Eagle Hell Hero of Courage
String error: And it's only a taste of what you have in store
Correct: Change it so it says "its only a taste of whats in store for you"??
fixed

Location: Eagle Hell Hero of Courage
String error: "It was a mistake of what I did"
Correct: Rephrase so it says something like "It was a mistake I did that caused yata yata yata" heh
This is actually a hint of a bigger plot, that I don't want to detail, so I will leave it.

Location: Eagle Hell Hero of Courage
String error: "powerful that he can do everything himself"
Correct: add in "by" after "everything"
fixed

Location: Eagle Hell Hero of Courage
String error: "Sorry I get caught up and I wanted to be quick."
Correct: Rephrase this so it says something like this. "Sorry I got caught up in the matter of things and I only wanted to be quick" or... "Sorry I got caught up in the matter of things. I only wanted to be quick."
fixed

Location: Eagle Hell Lunaphr
String error: I thank you from the bottom of my heart. However, I must warn"
Correct: I believe however should be tied together with the sentence you have before the however used in this string. So it's used like this. "I thank you from the bottom of my heart, however, I must warn" I believe that would make more sense.
fixed

Location: Eagle Hell Lunaphr
String error: Don't go be trying to be a hero."
Correct: "Don't try and be a hero" Don't go and try being a hero"
fixed

Location: ?? After taking the warp from Eagle Hell to the new ending.
String error: "Why else would this Map"
Correct: Lowercase the M in "Map" within the string.
It is important and wanted it to stand out.... But I fixed it.

Location: ?? After taking the warp from Eagle Hell to the new ending
String error: "I know the power from it courses through your body"
Correct: Change "from" to "of"
fixed

Location: ?? After taking the warp from Eagle Hell to the new ending
String error: "Why would I waste my time getting the Triforce only to"
Correct: Lowercase the T in "Triforce" within the string.
It is important, so I kept it.

Bugs:?


So what happened here is after Ganon got done talking in his long speech thats supposed to intimidate Link, I managed to get across the floor tiles that fall and stand next to Ganon! I knew from experience that the floor tiles give in and your supposed to fall/warp through the floor. So knowing this, I attempted to get across the tiles that are mean't to fall and stand next to Ganon as a reward. Congratulations to me! Thats exactly what I accomplished! ^^ Whats supposed to happen is your supposed to fall through the floor and are taken to the final battle of the game. Well, I dodged the hole in the floor, but even by doing this I still get warped to the final battle of the game. So that must mean it doesn't matter where you stand, the scene is just supposed to look like your falling through the floor. maybe thats all it is. So Shoelace, maybe have the tiles fall a little faster or something? Otherwise leave it! icon_teehee.gif
That's funny, I always tried to beat it, and I couldn't do it. But fixed!


This is part of the ending of Hero of Dreams. The normal ending. Nothng looks strange in this screen shown, but I did something rather particular in this screen. You see how there are 2 underlayers to bushes in this screen? Well...they're there because I CUT THEM! icon_biggrin.gif I don't know how I did this. Maybe Link is just in a bad position or something in this screen. So Shoelace...fix this? Because this is mean't to be a frozen image and nothing in the screen should change other than what the scene of it looks like.
lol, yeah, I noticed that too. I was watching a LP and they did that on this screen and the graveyard one too. lol. Fixed.

Thats all for the string errors and bugs that I have found. I've finished the game, and have completed the extra dungeon within the Temple of Courage. So far I am in complete awe. Dang Shoelace...DANG!!! SERIOUSLY! WHAT AN AWESOME GAME! I LOVED THIS!! Beta testing this update of the Hero Of Dreams has been FTW so far! Shoelace, bravo! You pwn noobs and your skills of Z-quest are leet and I can't...AHHH...I can't tell you how much i've enjoyed beta testing your game so far! Its wonderful! I loved the new ending, and i'm so excited right now! REALLY! I am so excited. Congrats on 5 years of The Hero Of Dreams, congrats on making an addition to the Hero Of Dreams, congrats on everything you have done with Zelda Classic, congratulations to you Shoelace. Great job! I loved your additions to this game. The extra dungeon? HOLY @%$# that was hard! IT WAS REALLY TOUGH! ESPECIALLY THIS ROOM!


There were 3 Super Death Knights, 4 White Wizzrobes, and an 8-10 headed Fire Gleeok in this room. I repeat. There were 3 Super Death Knights, 4 White Wizzrobes, and an 8-10 headed Fire Gleeok in this room. Holy...FRICK! icon_eek.gif

And the funny experience I had with that room? I survived with half a heart! icon_cool.gif AWWW YEEEEA!

Now i'm going to share with you a couple thoughts about how I view your extra dungeon overall. Eagle hell was quite original to me. Really! I didn't expect it. It was really neat, it had clever puzzles, and was quite challenging at the same time! I enjoyed it! I also liked the overworld leading up to Eagle Hell. It was both puzzling and difficult due to routing your way towards Eagle Hell, but Shoelace, you clearly give the player some advantage at leading them to where it is with your really small hints gesturing out into the open that give the player an idea of where they're supposed to be going. It was cool! Its totally you. I like your style, you do a fabulous job telling stories, and your quite the Zelda creator. Nuff said. I can't wait to see more from you in the future. Its gonna be great! I KNOW IT! icon_biggrin.gif Okay so on another note, I have yet to beat the Cave of Ordeals in this game. Man, is it hard. That cave really is the hardest thing in this game. I intentionally played through this entire game with the blue tunic..because the blue tunic to me is awesome. (And it puts other tunics to shame icon_teehee.gif...well...maybe not so much heh). I've been trying to get through the Cave of Ordeals with the blue tunic and well...been unsuccessful 2 times! icon_blah.gif But i'll manage eventually. Hopefully its not impossible, because I really want to do it! But yea... i've intentionally played through this game with the blue tunic, and i'm gonna beat everything in this game with the blue tunic. So...when I finally do beat Cave of Ordeals with the blue tunic... i'll totally post here saying I did and if I find other bugs/string errors in this game.. i'll be sure to post em here. That is all.

I put my comments in bold. But thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed the game and updates. You want on record for being the first to beat the extra dungeon. It is difficult, but I wanted it to be difficult in puzzles, battle, and themes. But yeah, I still put hints in everything because I like when everything makes sense in a game. Plus in the dungeon, when you do certain rooms, I make perm triggers so that the doors will remain open, so you don't have to do Everything over again.

By the way, you are insane in beating the game with a blue Tunic. O_o I wouldn't even be able to do that. That's pretty insane. But glad you liked the extra dungeon, I know that some won't like it because of how hard it is, but that's sorta the point. It is a level for those challenge players out there.

But you were insanely good in your testing, I will remember that for when I get testers for The Chapters of Enova, which I will start production on it in the next couple of months as it is still in the planning stages.

Let me say this. Regal was a pain in the butt without the red armor. Any chance you can upload a version that at least places one more vine on that one screen so I can get the red armor? I might be able to get through Ganon with the blue armor, but from what I understand, the new level is tough, and I ain't goin' in there without being fully prepared.

I still don't understand how that would fix it as it is a 2.5 bug. Adding another vine, how does it help?

But for now: I updated the file, so if you need to re-download the file for the bug fixes (they aren't major bugs, but it is the newest one): http://www.mbwchampi.../HoDtesting.zip

[Russ]

I still don't understand how that would fix it as it is a 2.5 bug. Adding another vine, how does it help?

But for now: I updated the file, so if you need to re-download the file for the bug fixes (they aren't major bugs, but it is the newest one): http://www.mbwchampi.../HoDtesting.zip

The way the bug works, you can't exit water onto a walkable combo if the combo directly to the right of it is unwalkable. Since the combo directly to the right of the vine is a solid cliff, you can't climb onto it out of the water. But if it's a vine, then the combo directly to the right will be walkable, so you can climb up it. It led to a similar problem in Hyrule Castle, in the room with the water turning into lava and the switches. I couldn't climb onto one of the switches until the water turned to lava, forcing me to take one hit. Annoying, but it works.

Thanks for the update!

[Colossal]

I just finished level 5; time for more strings.

• Vs Spirit of Wisdom (I think - it's the one guarding the wand): "...you are You're stupider that I thought."
• After getting the 5th triforce piece: "Link: I finally got the fifth place of triforce." Should be "...piece of the triforce." or "...triforce piece."

Just for fun, I trapped myself at this block puzzle to demonstrate that it's possible, like so:

I thought you might want to know about that because you put anti-trap measures in some other places.

EDIT: I'm up to level 6 and I have more strings:

• At the boomerang game at Windy Peak (second round), "confuss" should be "confess".
• Meeting with Impa: "servent" should be "servant".
• Impa again: "It would only distract you now, and that's the last thing you need to in that accursed place." Remove "to".
• At Peter's Pad on Mount Frost: "A girl about your age pasted through." "pasted" should be "passed".
• Peter's Pad again: "I will have meet up with her." Remove "have".
• Meeting with Patty: "...appear in couple of years." It should be "...appear in a couple of years."
• Patty again: "Listen, Patty, have you seen a key?" followed by, "Patty: Well, actually, yes, I do!" Replace "do" with "have".

This has been some good proofreading practice.

EDIT 2: In this room, the flying things that should be hit by arrows are also responding to the boomerang. If this one is hit from the entryway, the next one doesn't show up, the gray barrier isn't raised, and the first set of tiles disappears even if you're not on them.

Strings:

• Commander in Link's dream after level 6: "Lets get moving, Link is probably already on his..." That comma should probably be a period.
• Impa after Link's dream: "In case of a full scale war breaks out..." Remove "of".
• Talk to Impa again after she tells you where to go next: "...Light, and talk to pricness Zelda!"

EDIT 3:

• Donmore's Cave, Journal 3: "It took Regal a while to here out the plan." "here" should be "hear".
• The other journal in the cave has no string.

Edited by Colossal, 27 September 2011 - 10:42 PM.

[Russ]

It must be another 2.5 bug, but the cuckoo book doesn't open the windmill. Unless there's another way through the first room. Not sure how you'd fix that though. How's it set up?

[Shoelace]

I just finished level 5; time for more strings.

Vs Spirit of Wisdom (I think - it's the one guarding the wand): "...you are You're stupider that I thought."
After getting the 5th triforce piece: "Link: I finally got the fifth place of triforce." Should be "...piece of the triforce." or "...triforce piece."
I fixed both of those. Thank ya!

Just for fun, I trapped myself at this block puzzle to demonstrate that it's possible, like so:

I thought you might want to know about that because you put anti-trap measures in some other places.
Yes, I do try to set up the game so that you never have to quit->continue. So I fixed this, thank you for breaking it. I was never able to do that.

EDIT: I'm up to level 6 and I have more strings:

At the boomerang game at Windy Peak (second round), "confuss" should be "confess".
Meeting with Impa: "servent" should be "servant".
Impa again: "It would only distract you now, and that's the last thing you need to in that accursed place." Remove "to".
At Peter's Pad on Mount Frost: "A girl about your age pasted through." "pasted" should be "passed".
Peter's Pad again: "I will have meet up with her." Remove "have".
Meeting with Patty: "...appear in couple of years." It should be "...appear in a couple of years."
Patty again: "Listen, Patty, have you seen a key?" followed by, "Patty: Well, actually, yes, I do!" Replace "do" with "have".
Thank you so much. These are all fixed, I appreciate the proofreading.

This has been some good proofreading practice.

EDIT 2: In this room, the flying things that should be hit by arrows are also responding to the boomerang. If this one is hit from the entryway, the next one doesn't show up, the gray barrier isn't raised, and the first set of tiles disappears even if you're not on them.

I actually made it that why, so you don't have to switch from arrow to hookshot back and forth, you can hit it with anything and it should work. I'll keep it like that as it isn't too big of a problem. But thanks for looking out.
Strings:

Commander in Link's dream after level 6: "Lets get moving, Link is probably already on his..." That comma should probably be a period.
Impa after Link's dream: "In case of a full scale war breaks out..." Remove "of".
Talk to Impa again after she tells you where to go next: "...Light, and talk to pricness Zelda!"
Fixed and fixed and fixed!

EDIT 3:

Donmore's Cave, Journal 3: "It took Regal a while to here out the plan." "here" should be "hear".
The other journal in the cave has no string.
Fixed, and also, I totally forgot to link the string. Added

I went ahead and made those updates. Thank you very much for testing as much as you did! I will be uploading the file soon. I just need to do something first.

[Russ]

Okay. Major major major major MAJOR bug. The game is ubeatable in 2.5. The segment in the Ganondorf battle where you have to reflect his magic attack back it him won't work. I don't know what changed between versions to break it, but it's not working for me. So yeah. I'm gonna go cry in the corner now.

[Shoelace]

Really! That's not good.... :/ I know on that part you have to hold up while you press A once the ball of magic is in front of you, if you try to do it before, it won't work. I am wondering if it is a 2.5, what kind of bug is it? I will see if I can look at it later, to see how 2.5 glitches right there, so we can let the Developers know...

[Colossal]

I just finished the quest, including the Cave of Ordeals and Eagle Hell.

The Cave of Ordeals was easy for quite a while because I was fully equipped, but when it got hard, it got hard fast. It took the full potion and numerous castings of Nayru's Love to get through it in 1 run. It's quite the endurance test.

Eagle Hell had some neat puzzles in it, especially the block puzzle. I like how the trick used in it forced me to solve it a bit differently. The enemies were quite easy with the gold tunic.

I think the new additions to the quest are excellent, especially the new puzzles.

I don't have any bugs or strings to report right now. It looks like Littlelink91 took care of that part of the quest.

[Russ]

So Shoelace, here's a bit more info on the final boss bug. You know how when you successfully hit the attack with the sword during the "Press up and A" segment, the game kind of jitters for a second, as the secrets activate and it warps you to a new screen? Well it jitters for a second in 2.5, but then goes back to the screen where Link gets hit and takes damage. This is speculation, but I'm guessing that's because you have a timed warp that warps Link to that screen if he misses his chance for hitting the ball, and for some reason, the warp tile isn't warping Link in 2.5. So what you could do is open the quest in 2.5, change whatever tile warps Link to an auto warp combo, set the screen flag "auto warps are direct" if it needs to be a direct warp, and then save it as a Hero of Dreams 2.5 bugfix version, along with adding the extra vine so the red armor quest can be completed. Worth a shot, don't you think?

[Shoelace]

I just finished the quest, including the Cave of Ordeals and Eagle Hell.

The Cave of Ordeals was easy for quite a while because I was fully equipped, but when it got hard, it got hard fast. It took the full potion and numerous castings of Nayru's Love to get through it in 1 run. It's quite the endurance test.

Eagle Hell had some neat puzzles in it, especially the block puzzle. I like how the trick used in it forced me to solve it a bit differently. The enemies were quite easy with the gold tunic.

I think the new additions to the quest are excellent, especially the new puzzles.

I don't have any bugs or strings to report right now. It looks like Littlelink91 took care of that part of the quest

Thank you, I am glad you liked the new puzzles. I made all of the changes, and also since there weren't as many bugs as I thought, I went ahead and remade the Wondering Tree. I thought it was the only boring area in the game. So I updated it. I like it because it actually means something now. So I will be updating it tonight. So download it if you want to see it.

So Shoelace, here's a bit more info on the final boss bug. You know how when you successfully hit the attack with the sword during the "Press up and A" segment, the game kind of jitters for a second, as the secrets activate and it warps you to a new screen? Well it jitters for a second in 2.5, but then goes back to the screen where Link gets hit and takes damage. This is speculation, but I'm guessing that's because you have a timed warp that warps Link to that screen if he misses his chance for hitting the ball, and for some reason, the warp tile isn't warping Link in 2.5. So what you could do is open the quest in 2.5, change whatever tile warps Link to an auto warp combo, set the screen flag "auto warps are direct" if it needs to be a direct warp, and then save it as a Hero of Dreams 2.5 bugfix version, along with adding the extra vine so the red armor quest can be completed. Worth a shot, don't you think?

So this is actually the same bug that happens in Level 3 when played in 2.5. The way these rooms are set up is: You are on and also surrounded by Flag -> Sword. So that when you swing your sword, it changes to a direct warp which is walkable (which is why I put press up and A. however, for some reason, the sword flag doesn't work or something. So I am going to test it on 2.5. But again, this is as I said only for 2.10. So, this is more of a bug to 2.5, so I will let them know once I test it. But fixing that would cause more trouble then it is worth as there are no room on the map. And I want to have one file and not another version for 2.5, as that is not the point of this update.

Edit: I went ahead and uploaded the most up-to-date version of the game. I think this should be the final one before I release it. The testing has been quiet. So I am assuming all bugs are gone.
http://www.mbwchampi.../HoDtesting.zip

Edited by Shoelace, 01 October 2011 - 02:21 PM.

[Dawnlight]

I finished the Wondering Tree. I found one small bug.



The corners of the tall grass have the wrong undercombo. You are such a sneaky beast with that mini-dungeon.

EDIT: Found another undercombo bug.



EDIT2: I just noticed that these rooms use secret comboes which makes fixing these UC's impossible .

Edited by Dawnlight, 02 October 2011 - 12:32 PM.

[Shoelace]

I am glad you like the new Wondering Tree.
Those two undercombos can't be fixed sadly because of the fact that their are secret combos in use. Because when you trigger the secret, the grass would trigger and stay triggered, so it would look odd. So can't fix it.

Though on my future games, 2.5 has the slash -> next, which fixs that.

[Twilight Knight]

Yea thats probably just a 2.1-2.5 compatibility bug, because I was able to deliver all the suits for the side quest and get the red tunic. I'm using 2.1.2

It isn't just a compatibility bug, because I had the same in a 2.5b quest. But yes, it's still related to the versions, so it should occur in 2.10(.2).

[Shoelace]

It doesn't happen for me in 2.10.2. But 2.5 I can't say. But yeah, I saw they had bug posts about it.

Also Colossal are you chat ever? If so, i am there right now (and hopefully the time being), so if you help with the SFX! Just message me! *query*