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[HeroOfFire]

The latest beta is now up. A bunch of bug fixes and improvements have been made since the last beta. Design wise, everything should be done. All that remains is adding some bosses, but there are currently placeholders where these bosses will go, so you can finish the quest. All items are in, go wild collecting them all.

Feedback would be appreciated, such as item improvements, specific enemies that are far more dangerous than others they are grouped with, possible locations that need additional shortcuts, or a name you can give at the start of the quest that gets a silly response.

And don't hesitate to use the thread for sharing... interesting things you may find.

[Lejes]

It seems like the permission status for the new beta isn't set to public?

[HeroOfFire]

For some reason the beta is still in pending status. I guess I uploaded it at a slow time or something? I don't think it normally has taken this long to get approved. I'll keep checking back, it should be available soon.

 

And we are good, download in now a go!

Edited by HeroOfFire, 03 June 2016 - 09:52 PM.

[Ryunaker]

So far found two golden chests, one in the graveyard, one a few worlds beforehand.  Their items aren't counted in the total shown by the checklist, but I have no idea how to open these chests.  Make that three; just found the one in the very first world.

 

Edit:  Should've figured; once you find the way to open those chests, it's rather obvious...hehe.

Edited by Ryunaker, 08 June 2016 - 03:48 PM.

[Ryunaker]

I have found a possible glitch:  One of the key words has frozen Zelda Classic for me.  Music is still playing, but display has completely frozen, and no input going through.  #DESSYREQT is the one that did it.  Tested with a name of "TEST" and a favorite thing of "AAA"  (Just to test. )

[Ryunaker]

I have completed the game, but I have not 100% completed it, yet.  I definitely have confirmation that there are more than 320 items, though.  

Spoiler

And there are at least two additional dungeons I have not figured out how to access yet...one is the one in World 7, seems to be blocked off by a square with the number '7' below it, that is only visible if you are standing by it, and the other is referenced on the map for the World 11.  "What?  No map, sorry!  It's in other level."  If anyone has any suggestions for these, please let me know.

 

On a side note, I -love- the final boss...hehe.

Edited by Ryunaker, 09 June 2016 - 06:20 PM.

[HeroOfFire]

For those who have not yet noticed, Beta 4 has been released. This fixes the bug with one of the secret modes, and 2 bosses have been added.

 

Since it has been awhile, here is some general info for those that may want it.

 

The portal in the starting cave takes you to a special place. You want to check that right away, a very useful item for 100% item collection is there.

 

The quest is divided into a series of worlds. If these worlds are following the Mario style of being parts of a larger world or are actually different themed planets is up for debate. Either way, you go from world to world using the sealed portals.

 

Each new world requires at least 2 new items to fully explore. One item is needed just to break the seal to the portal in the previous world, and the other item is used often in the new world, sometimes being required for the boss key.

 

Each world has a side dungeon. These side dungeons are more complex than the worlds they are in and will require items you may not find until later. For example, you may need fully explore World 2 to have the items to complete the side dungeon in World 1. Some later side dungeons may require you to go even further ahead in worlds. However, every side dungeon also has an item near the start that can be obtained with just the items you needed for the current world. This "early item" location may be worth checking when you find a new dungeon.

 

Some worlds also have a deeper dungeon. These deeper dungeons are hidden in the side dungeon of the world, and require even later items. Without spoiling where the first deeper dungeon is, the items needed for it can appear as late as World 7. Deeper dungeons do not have an early item; with the required items, you can do the entire place in one go.

 

Regardless if you randomize item locations or not, there is a logic to where the key items can appear. At first, they can only appear up to the seal to the world they are required for (meaning, the item to break a seal may appear in the same world the seal is in, but never beyond it), including the early item locations in side dungeons.

 

Starting with the items needed for World 5, you may need to backtrack to an earlier side dungeon to find a key item. The general rule is, a key item can appear later in a side dungeon if said key item is needed for a later world then the items needed to fully explore the side dungeon. For example, the items needed for World 5 are also the items required for side dungeon 2, so an item for World 6 may appear in side dungeon 2.

 

This logic also applies to the deeper dungeons, although since the first one requires items needed for World 8, you will not need to check them for some time. But if luck is on your side, you can always obtain the items for a dungeon much earlier than expected. And if you are really lucky, you may not need to go into any dungeons at all.

 

What, backtracking takes too long? Find the whistle before World 5. It will help a lot.

 

Can't seem to find all the items in a world? Not everything is in plain sight. Check behind trees, cut grass and bushes, bomb and burn suspicious objects. And for the most part, you can find these hidden items without using a lens if you look for anything that looks odd. And sometimes, an item is hidden this way in a cave.

 

The various hints in the worlds will point to the bigger secrets. Or just a 10 rupee secret and nothing else.

 

Speaking of the lens, it mainly helps with identifying fake walls in a few dungeons. And that is all. It will not reveal anything else you couldn't figure out by looking. Especially not some obscure secret.

[Lejes]

Is beta 4 compatible with save files from beta 3?

[Ryunaker]

Says it should be.  My question is:  Would the new bosses require a fresh start?  (My suspicion is yes.)

[Lejes]

Doesn't seem like they do. I updated the file and was able to fight one of them. I didn't check the other, but if it was using a dungeon boss flag, then it was already gone.

I finished the latest demo a few days ago, so I'll post some random notes I took during my playthrough.

notes

wooden sword pickup string
pokemon triggering switches
remove pokemon from active party?
disable L/R normal function in PC
catch fairies with pokeballs
general script slowdown
lower Brinestar keys
world 2 boss key lock skipped with flippers
throw knives faster with direction held (not Doppler effect)
red bomb pickup string
spread beams off center when rapid swinging
ball and chain Link animation looks weird, weapon freaks out on shielded foe
world 3 stairway passage cave switch
great fairies in fountains should be solid or higher layer
Stalfos sword, fires beams from sword, dissimilar to actual Stalfos
great ball pickup string
two spread bows in inventory (something going on with bow items in general)
chakram position
flame and ice wands fire magic with wand scroll
groups of rupees string
victory road enemies don't respawn as normal

Some of these might be intended, I don't know. I can explain any of them in more detail if you want.

[Ryunaker]

Has anyone had any luck with the secret at the top of Lavender Shrine?  The block that appears that is marked with a '7'?