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[Radien]

Okay... I've started drawing a fire-breathing custom boss. However, mere fire-shooters will not do this boss justice.

I would love to use a Gleeok 2 or a Gohma 4 for their flame "breath" attacks, but I'm afraid neither of them will be very useful because of their nature: both move around, and neither of them can be placed at will using either enemy flags or walk flags.

I need a more effective way to create fire. I could draw and combo cycle something, but really: I want chaos. Waves of hot flaming death. Widespread burnination. This will most likely be a level 5 boss, so it needs to be challenging. Does anyone have any suggestions for things I should try out?

[ShadowTiger]

Hey, interesting idea. Perhaps it should have its own Cset amidst the boss. Maybe rip a couple of fires. (Google Fire breath? ) It shouldn't be hellishly (no pun intended whatsoever) difficult to draw some flames though. I mean, you could have a flame shockwave, a flame trail, a flame bolt, a flame ball, a shrimp cocktail, sauteed shrimp, gumbop shrimp, .... Oh my .... I've crossed some sort of interdimensional media rift.

Heh. Bubba.

Well, what sort of attacks did you foresee Volvagia your boss having?

[Highsight]

Here is what I am thinking. Have you ever played Sonic and Knuckles? Well remember the last boss? Well what if you made a huge beam of fire that will hit Link and hurt him if he doesn't get out of the way. (See pic below if you don's get why I linked Sonic and Knuckles with this.)


If you still don't understand what I mean then tell me and I will try to put it in better words. (My vocabulary isn't that great. :\)

[Radien]

BH4:

I anticipate giving the boss its own CSet, which will be similar to CSet 8, but with some greys and other colors added.

Well, what sort of attacks did you foresee Volvagia your boss having?

Bah... you guessed. Oh well... Volvagia could have any sort of attack, since they'll all be flaming. I am, however, planning on the lava pools spitting fire at certain intervals. So yes, there'll be lava pools, and he'll probably pop up out of them, although his main fire attack may only occur from the pool at the top-center of the screen.

Come to think of it... I've made some combo-cycling falling rocks for another boss, and I could reuse them a little here. It'd be in keeping for Volvagia to knock rocks from the ceiling.

Linkman90:

Well, I haven't played that game, but "fire beam" says it all. Yes, a fire "beam" is a possibility... but it'd be more Volvagia-like to have spreading fire breath, etc. I might still use a straight trail of fire breath, though.

[Beefster]

my suggestion is combo cycles, and damage combos, (so the fire can hurt) and possibly statues under a layer.

But if that wasn't what you were aiming for...i have nothing else to offer.

[Zenith]

No fair! I was gonna guess Volvagia!

[idontknow]

Hmm..i would say draw tiles of gleeok flames overlapping the regular floor and use them for damage 1 type combos that cycle to regular floor combos, that eventually cycle back to the flames when you want them to appear again.

You can also have a seperate set of combos where rocks fall down the screen or maybe you can just use the rock enemies.

For a final attack, maybe after you hit the boss a certain number of times, carefully using secret flags or a warp, you can make it so that the boss starts jumping in the air & by carefully timing such an attack with a new set of cycling combos that looks like a sort of "shockwave", you can have the boss cause a damaging earthquake that harms link should he be too close!

[Zenith]

Now a boss of that caliber would take about a month to make.

Good 'ol Volvagia.

Edited by zmaster, 16 March 2005 - 10:36 PM.

[Daniel]

Do not worry Radien, I'm sure you'll figure something out

[Radien]

Indeed. idontknow's ideas would be cool, but would take forever to implement. I think I'd rather save that for a later boss, mostly because I need practice before I can handle anything that difficult.

It occured to me that I can make the Gleeok2 invisible, and use its fire breath with my own graphics. However, the head floats around while it spits fire, which is a problem. I might just make the "head" a floating ball of flame that circles around Volvagia.

Thanks for all your replies.

[Breadguy]

Yeah, you could do that also, Radien. Make the Gleeok2 stay invisible, that way you can still use your tiles, and your flame balls. But you are right about the head moving around. Hmm.. Not really sure what you can do with the head moving around..

[Radien]

Well, when I said "make it a flaming ball," what I was implying was that I'd delete all the tiles for Gleeok2 in the tile editor except for the head, and then make the "head" tiles into flaming balls of fire. Of course, I wouldn't be able to use the Gleeok2 as a regular enemy if I did that.

It's not perfect, but it might be the best I can manage. :\