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[NoeL]

No, and neither did you.

But I did.

And being undecided doesn't even sort of qualify as a homosexual tendency. That's like saying "so you don't have a favorite genre of video game? Well you must be a fan of RPGs then".

No, it's nothing like that. Heterosexuals don't generally have a great deal of sexual confusion growing up. I suppose the current social climate would make more people question their sexual identity, but I don't see many heteros being on the fence (unless they secretly wish they were gay so they can be part of a cool minority instead of a boring majority, which I suspect is the case among you guys). The people that seriously question their sexual orientation are usually at least bi, if not gay and in denial.

In the end, I must once again point out that this thread was created for describing oneself without being judged. Yet here you pass judgement, not silently but out loud, for everyone to hear.

I passed no such judgement. I noted an interesting correlation - a correlation that you fiercely denied and took offense to. Would it really be so bad if such a correlation existed?

I don't understand you.

Hopefully you'll learn.

Edited by NoeL, 07 September 2011 - 03:46 AM.

[Twilight Knight]

6. Straight - Everybody else put their sexual orientation so why the hell not? I like women. I like women. I like the concept of a woman. I like to take that concept and reduce it to an object. I like to take that object and use it in my videos.

Isn't that a reference to the gay fish episode of South Park?

Ok here we go:
1. Lazy (I hang around with lazy people).
2. Doctor Who
3. Rock n roll music.
4. My old workmates still hang out with them.
5. oh and zelda classic!

and,
6. straight, for some reason this is a social group for people

[Sheik]

I don't like to put labels on myself so I am just me I guess. I hang out with people that I consider my friends and I don't care what social groups they are part of as long as I like the person they are.

Edit: Also, you'd know about your sexual orientation. If you are straight, than you are attracted to the other gender. If you are homosexual than you are attracted to the same gender. If you are bi than you are attracted to both genders (mustn't mean 50%-50%, you might want to look up the Kinsey scala). If you are pansexual than you don't make a difference by gender who you are attracted to. If you are asexual than you aren't sexually attracted to anyone.
You are attracted to someone when the thought (and/or sight, and/or smell, and/or sound, and/or taste, and/or feeling/touch) of them makes you notice that you have libido. It's not even so hard to figure it out.

Edited by Sheik91, 07 September 2011 - 04:57 AM.

[Moosh]

I am Christian Weston Chandler, the TRUE and HONEST creator of Sonichu, the electric hedgehog Poke'mon and I am STRAIGHT.

So yeah...
1. Social outcast - I don't really fit in socially because I have Asperger's but I don't really mind because I'm a heartless monster.
2. Zelda nerd - I'm here, so this was pretty much a given.
3. The dreaded B word - So I like ponies, leading right into my next group
4. Straight - I like ponies...I am also attracted to persons of the female gender. I am not, however sexually attracted to ponies of the female gender...or ponies of the male gender.
5. Troll - Don't worry, I don't bite. But yeah I guess I consider myself a troll, although I avoid trolling you guys because you're cool and stuff.
6. Lazy bum - I would type a longer explanation, but that's too much work.

Edited by Pokemonmaster64, 07 September 2011 - 06:51 AM.

[Fabbrizio]

No, it's nothing like that. Heterosexuals don't generally have a great deal of sexual confusion growing up. I suppose the current social climate would make more people question their sexual identity, but I don't see many heteros being on the fence (unless they secretly wish they were gay so they can be part of a cool minority instead of a boring majority, which I suspect is the case among you guys). The people that seriously question their sexual orientation are usually at least bi, if not gay and in denial.

The words of someone who has clearly never experienced that kind of confusion. You've never been, as you put it, 'on the fence', but yet you claim to somehow understand.

Also, the part in bold bothers me, due to the vagueness of the statement and the lack of credibility.

I passed no such judgement. I noted an interesting correlation - a correlation that you fiercely denied and took offense to. Would it really be so bad if such a correlation existed?

It wouldn't be a bad thing at all if not for the fact that the world is still immature and uses "gay" as an insult. If the correlation were true, the fanbase would never hear the end of it, they'd catch so much hell from all those assholes who run around shouting "DON'T CATCH THE GAY!" This would pose a particularly difficult problem to the viewers who are 100% straight, because they can't just flat-out admit it if it's not true. Well, they could but it'd be pointless.

Isn't that a reference to the gay fish episode of South Park?

I was under the impression it was a Reggie Watts reference.

Edited by PowerGauntlets, 07 September 2011 - 07:04 AM.

[Sheik]

It wouldn't be a bad thing at all if not for the fact that the world is still immature and uses "gay" as an insult. If the correlation were true, the fanbase would never hear the end of it, they'd catch so much hell from all those assholes who run around shouting "DON'T CATCH THE GAY!" This would pose a particularly difficult problem to the viewers who are 100% straight, because they can't just flat-out admit it if it's not true. Well, they could but it'd be pointless.

May I be honest? What bothers me is the whole drama that's made out of homosexuality. The problem (if there is one) is not only the homophobes (I think I expressed my feelings towards this - I can't blame people for their phobias) but also the constant white-knighting of the gays whenever the topic comes up anywhere. People can take care of themselves, you don't need to jump in for them, especially not when it's not even clear that an insult happened (and I know NoeL, and he's extremely supportive towards homosexuality). If you all keep saying that homosexuality is normal, than act according to that. These actions speak to me as though homosexuals are a weak minority that is in the need of you constantly defending them. And that's the annoying part. It's simply not true. Homosexuals are proud human beings like anyone that can speak for themselves when they think it's appropriate. You are supportive, we got it.
Sorry if that's insulting to you and I bet you have just the best intentions and all, but it annoys the living s*** out of me.

[Twilight Knight]

I was under the impression it was a Reggie Watts reference.

Oh, yeah seems you're right. (googled it)

And I agree with Sheik91. Homosexuals are often much more secure than heterosexual even. For example, take their flamboyant appearance (of most gay people). Most of them tend to wear make up or express themselves much better than a straight man would. So I don't think there's need to protect them. I think the only real homophobics left in the world are rednecks or religious extremists. In our modern society homosexuality is excepted, from what I've seen. Sure someone makes a gay joke sometimes. People tend to make jokes about everything that they aren't themselves.

[Fabbrizio]

And I agree with Sheik91. Homosexuals are often much more secure than heterosexual even. For example, take their flamboyant appearance (of most gay people). Most of them tend to wear make up or express themselves much better than a straight man would. So I don't think there's need to protect them. I think the only real homophobics left in the world are rednecks or religious extremists. In our modern society homosexuality is excepted, from what I've seen. Sure someone makes a gay joke sometimes. People tend to make jokes about everything that they aren't themselves.

See, I guess my opinion on this is very much the opposite after hearing about Jared's experiences. Sorry if it seems like I'm going overboard but what I've heard and seen is not even sort of similar to what you've described. I also didn't appreciate NoeL's insinuation that "being unsure = being a charlatan" (and maybe I just misinterpreted what he meant by this, but I still don't like it).

Edited by PowerGauntlets, 07 September 2011 - 08:13 AM.

[NoeL]

The words of someone who has clearly never experienced that kind of confusion. You've never been, as you put it, 'on the fence', but yet you claim to somehow understand.

Also, the part in bold bothers me, due to the vagueness of the statement and the lack of credibility.

You're right - I've never been confused. I know an attractive man when I see one, I can point to guys and say "Damn, he hawt!", I've even thought about what it'd be like to sleep with another guy, but I've never found an attractive guy arousing. If you're confused about your sexuality then you must've found guys arousing at one time or another, hence you're most likely bi/gay (depending on whether you also find girls arousing). If you don't get a chubby over dudes, news flash, you're straight! Welcome to the club! (pro-tip: if you're confused about your sexuality just watch some gay porn. If it does nothing for you (but straight porn does) then you're straight. If you like what you see, there's your answer. No more confusion).

You're free to doubt my credibility, and I don't profess to be an expert on the subject, but in my personal experience talking with other straight guys - guys that are completely comfortable with homosexuality - they were just never that confused. They liked girls, they didn't like guys. Simple as that.

I also didn't appreciate NoeL's insinuation that "being unsure = being a charlatan"

LAWLS! Where'd you get THAT from?

For example, take their flamboyant appearance (of most gay people). Most of them tend to wear make up or express themselves much better than a straight man would.

Haha! I sure hope you're joking



EDIT: One other thing:

It wouldn't be a bad thing at all if not for the fact that the world is still immature and uses "gay" as an insult. If the correlation were true, the fanbase would never hear the end of it, they'd catch so much hell from all those assholes who run around shouting "DON'T CATCH THE GAY!" This would pose a particularly difficult problem to the viewers who are 100% straight, because they can't just flat-out admit it if it's not true. Well, they could but it'd be pointless.

I think I'm missing why they should give a crap. If I happened to like something that was popular among homosexuals (I actually do, but I'm not saying what ;D ) and people were like "OMG UR A FAG CUZ U LIEK X" I really don't care. I'm not insulted to be associated with homosexuals, so someone saying "UR GAY!" is no different to them saying "UR BLONDE!". I don't see it as insulting - even if they're trying to be. They're just wrong. My hair is brown, and I like boobs Why should a 100% straight brony be ashamed or want to deny the fact a large chuck of the fan base is gay (hypothetically) unless they found homosexuals offensive themselves? I can imagine the badgering getting pretty annoying, but I can't imagine getting offended at what they're saying. It's like someone saying "LOLOLOL! YOU LIKE RED CARS! HAHA!". It's just not very offensive

Edited by NoeL, 07 September 2011 - 09:05 AM.

[Twilight Knight]

Haha! I sure hope you're joking

Most gay people I know are flamboyant and wear make up, men or women alike. So no, it wasn't a joke.

[Adem]

I don't mean to rent-a-mod, but I feel like we're getting really off topic and things can only go downhill unless we turn things around now...So! Uhm...On topic...

6. Christian (Not to an extreme level, but definitely a Christian.)
7. Internet Forum User

[Titanium Justice]

Okay... I'll try to make a response without starting a controversy. Okay? Here I go...

Christian (non-denominational) - Once compared to a 'Christian terrorist' for simply expressing my faith. So yeah, I feel its working out well.

Disciple fan - It has quickly become one of my most, if not my most favorite band.

Gamer (platform agnostic) - Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo? Don't care. Just give me some good games.

Meat lover - BACON!

Straight - No, I don't let my mind run wild with sexual fantasies. Chasity FTW! *runs*

Writer - Been trying my hand at novel writing for a couple years now. It didn't necessarily start out as something I'd like to publish, but my writing has improved drastically since then. I've become quite passionate about my work.



Aaannnddd...That's all I can think of right now. k thnx bye.

[Sheik]

Oh, yeah seems you're right. (googled it)

And I agree with Sheik91. Homosexuals are often much more secure than heterosexual even. For example, take their flamboyant appearance (of most gay people). Most of them tend to wear make up or express themselves much better than a straight man would. So I don't think there's need to protect them. I think the only real homophobics left in the world are rednecks or religious extremists. In our modern society homosexuality is excepted, from what I've seen. Sure someone makes a gay joke sometimes. People tend to make jokes about everything that they aren't themselves.

Most gay people I know are flamboyant and wear make up, men or women alike. So no, it wasn't a joke.

It just seems to be that way. The "scene" tends to feature what you describe quite often and thusly it gets associated with homosexuals quickly. I don't feel very happy about the fact that homosexuals are represented by that group of people but it happens to be that way. I find it sad that some people have to identify themselves through their sexuality and feel the urge to fulfill every clichee their "role" seemingly gives them. I like it better when people simply are who they are and don't strive to fall in some sort of pattern. (It's also why I find bisexuals to be such awesome people: they are what they like to be without all the strings attached.) There's perfectly "normal" homosexual dudes and women that you wouldn't be able to identify as homosexual from their appeareance or behavior.

Edited by Sheik91, 07 September 2011 - 01:52 PM.

[Koh]

Well, guess it's Koh's turn to jump on the bandwagon:

1. Furry - Not sexual at all, I just like anthro animals, and it'd be cool to hang out with them, like my gang in my sig. =D.
2. Pansexual - Look it up. You'll understand.
3. Grammar Nazi - SPELL IT RIGHT, DAMMAT >:C! PUT YOUR FAWKING PUNCTUATION IN! *Rage* *rage* *rage*

That's all I can think of for now. Writer's block sucks.

[Fabbrizio]

Well, guess it's Koh's turn to jump on the bandwagon:

1. Furry - Not sexual at all, I just like anthro animals, and it'd be cool to hang out with them, like my gang in my sig. =D.
2. Pansexual - Look it up. You'll understand.
3. Grammar Nazi - SPELL IT RIGHT, DAMMAT >:C! PUT YOUR FAWKING PUNCTUATION IN! *Rage* *rage* *rage*

That's all I can think of for now. Writer's block sucks.

With the exception of television interests, you are me, down to the letter.