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[ShadowTiger]

Well, there you go.

It's most useful when getting out of the way of attacks, or even into attacks. I.e. it's a speedy way of moving about the platform. Samus can hang off the ledge, press down to release herself off the platform, INSTANTLY jump and shoot a smash-missile forward, wavedash back onto the surface from the air, and outrace the missile to the other end using her wavedashes. Can't do that while walking.

You can wavedash out of the way of a smash attack and wavedash back in with your own smash, as you can indeed smash while moving after the wavedash.

You can wavedash out of the way of a Link Downthrust, rather than rolling, and be in the perfect position to Smash attack him while he gets his sword out of the ground, yeah?

[The Satellite]

Yeah, gotta love them wavedashes.

Though I usually don't have a hard time rolling around opponents. Eventually, while I keep rolling back and forth, they do something stupid (like try a smash attack) and I smash back.

[Mitchfork]

Yeah... although useful, I don't think that the wavedash is as essential as you make it seem, ShadowTiger. It's good for quickly moving and changing direction, but I prefer arial combat. I try to get someone off the stage, then I can use Marth's dair to spike then down. I've been using him for about a year now, so I "tip" really well. Instant KO on almost everyone... Kirby and Jigger can sometimes recover, but only if they have a lot of space to do so. Or I could pull a Ken and just chaingrab into oblivion. Only bad thing about Marth is that he's not good when teamed up on, so during the Classic team stages, I have to spam counter to retain lives...

Plus, his smash is AWESOME.

Edited by Ebola Zaire, 07 June 2007 - 12:37 PM.

[The Satellite]

If you make sure the opponent touches the tip.

I've yet to hear of anybody who's successfully used Roy's fully charged B button attack, which generates an instant KO, against a worthy human opponent. Though people have gotten lucky with Ganondorf's Warlock Punch.

[Mitchfork]

I've seen the Flare Blade done, but only once, when I saw someone break their own shield. It pretty much puts you out of comission for enough time to get a beatdown. And Ganondork will never hit me with Warlock Punch, but his side-B (whatsitcalled attack) and up-B (???) combo has annoyed me since I unlocked him.

[ShadowTiger]

Yeah... although useful, I don't think that the wavedash is as essential as you make it seem, ShadowTiger.

Depends on the situation. Of course, that answer can and will be given quite often. You need it when you need it, is all. It just happens that the pros use it more than often since they've mastered it completely and know exactly when and where to use it.

It's good for quickly moving and changing direction, but I prefer arial combat.

Me too. I'm in the air far more often than I'm off the ground. You get hit harder when you're in the air, sure, (If you're on the ground, about to be hit, just hold in Down on the control stick and you're far harder to throw off; it's why I usually follow death-inducing Smashes with a charged chargebeam attack or smash missile.)

I try to get someone off the stage, then I can use Marth's dair to spike then down.

Works wonderfully to edge-hog. You just tap jump, and you're in business.

I've been using him for about a year now, so I "tip" really well. Instant KO on almost everyone... Kirby and Jigger can sometimes recover, but only if they have a lot of space to do so.

And if they meteor-cancel. ... Gotta master that.

Or I could pull a Ken and just chaingrab into oblivion.

LOL HATED That! XD I think you can get out of it eventually by just jumping out of it at the last second. Hard to do as fox though, far easier as Samus.

Only bad thing about Marth is that he's not good when teamed up on, so during the Classic team stages, I have to spam counter to retain lives...

I tend to use his forward/up/down non-smash attacks when I've got lots of people around me. Up+A slash tends to work fairly well, I suppose, especially when Link.

Plus, his smash is AWESOME.

Quite.

If you make sure the opponent touches the tip.

It's only hard when they up+B into it in the hopes that you'll hit them again so they can Up+B again themselves, if they're not already close enough to the platform to snag it, leaving you out of luck.

I've yet to hear of anybody who's successfully used Roy's fully charged B button attack, which generates an instant KO, against a worthy human opponent. Though people have gotten lucky with Ganondorf's Warlock Punch.

Easy enough to Jump+R away from it at the last second. Rather cruel too. O.o'

I've seen the Flare Blade done, but only once, when I saw someone break their own shield. It pretty much puts you out of comission for enough time to get a beatdown. And Ganondork will never hit me with Warlock Punch, but his side-B (whatsitcalled attack) and up-B (???) combo has annoyed me since I unlocked him.

Ugh. XD Ditto. I am so oddly susceptible to Falcon or GDorf's Up+B. It's the strangest thing...

[Mitchfork]

If you're on the ground, about to be hit, just hold in Down on the control stick and you're far harder to throw off.

Gotta love crouch cancelling.

[ShadowTiger]

Half of it is the product of button-mashing against a real Pro. Seriously. The QC Anime Club has some badass players in it. Most of them have played Wess. My Samus is therefore somewhat less effective against them. My only boon is to play erratically. @ @.

[Mitchfork]

Half of it is the product of button-mashing against a real Pro. Seriously. The QC Anime Club has some badass players in it. Most of them have played Wess. My Samus is therefore somewhat less effective against them. My only boon is to play erratically. @ @.

Wess? You mean Ness? I'm pretty sure that's what you were trying to say... anyway, I really don't have anyone besides my siblings to play, so I'm probably less than skilled... just be thankful that you have someone better than you in a five mile radius!

[Krion]

The SSB Website has just undwergone some major changes. They have a lot more information, and some pics that aren't from the movie. Here's a link.

[Mitchfork]

Nooted VERY much. I'm actually gonna add that link to my first post!

[ShadowTiger]

Wess? You mean Ness? I'm pretty sure that's what you were trying to say...

Oh really?

anyway, I really don't have anyone besides my siblings to play, so I'm probably less than skilled... just be thankful that you have someone better than you in a five mile

My sister sucks terribly, relative to the people I can play. The only really good chances I get to play against people who don't kill themselves are at the College's Anime Club. I get to face some really, really amazing Captain Falcons, the best Mario player I've ever seen, and the ultimate Marth Master.

The SSB Website has just undwergone some major changes. They have a lot more information, and some pics that aren't from the movie. Here's a link.

Nothing has changed since the link I posted before.

[Majora]

I ALWAYS use Link. I consider myself pretty decent, and try to use strategy rather than blind smash attacks. I am currently trying to master (as much as possible) the "Have a bomb out so if you get sent flying, you still have a chance to get back via the bomb hurting you and giving you an extra jump"

[Mitchfork]

Oh really?

ZOMG!

Nothing has changed since the link I posted before.

You posted a link?

[Krion]

ZOMG!

You posted a link?

I don't recall this either. Maybe you were hallucinating?