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#1 Timelord

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 02:30 AM

As some of you know, I run several operating systems: OSX, Linux (Ubuntu distros, for the better part), and ...Windows XP.

 

On all of the former, I have never once--not on a single instance--needed to worry about viruses, malware, or other evil software. They have no incomprehensible system registry to infect, less interlinking of software, and most importantly: People don't design malware and viruses for platforms other than Windows (whatever version) with any frequency.

 

Over the past few days, my XP system began slowing down. Then, streaming services such as Hulu started staggering, eating up huge amounts of CPU time, and Netflix simply stalled dead. I couldn;t select a series year from the pulldown, and selecting any video to play resulted in a black screen. This is a mere few days after all Netflix playback started to de-sync and then play like a slideshow with audio problems that were as close as possible to the Invisible Man pressing the mute button for ten seconds, every ten seconds. (Ten seconds of sound, then ten seconds of silence.)

 

Now, I'm no fool, and I run both a variety of tools to scan for malware, and a set of services in Firefox to prevent it from affecting me. This unfortunately does not block the vulnerabilities of Silverlight, Flash and other web-services. NoScript doesn't prevent an applet designed to infiltrate a Silverlight vulnerability, as an example. I was wondering what was happening, until I saw that any website that I visited added a new entry to my NoScriopt forbid list, namely lqe.me.

 

If you see lqw.me in your NoScript choices, block it. I did, and that helped minimise the damage. It seems that some utility that I installed for Spyware Removal was packaged with spyware. I suppose this isn't to be unexpected, given that many of these 'free tools' need to profit somehow.

 

I went through my installed programmes, and found one named ScorpionSaver, which is not a programme that I elected to install. Thus, the installer wizard didn't bother to offer the option t decline it. Many of these freeware tools are packaged with spyware toolbars and other rubbish, but their installers usually have a tiny tick-box somewhere to disable the installation of said malware, or an 'advanced options' pane to do this. Whatever installed this horrible daemon that is designed as an info-miner, didn't have this option, and I always look over every dialogue twice.

 

My first resort was to run MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, which I have found to be reasonably reliable. It discovered a few objects and removed them, but the problems persisted. At this point, I knew I would be in for a long ride. My first task was to remove Silverlight, as I suspected that its performance problems were due to corrupted keys and DLLs, etc.. Then, I grabbed several other tools, including Spybot.

 

I then executed all of these, after using the Add/Remove Software programme in the system control panel to rid myself of this. It is still here, hiding, although probably disabled. I just now manually deleted all of its files, except for its uninstaller from my SSD. Despite removing it using the basic Windows SW removal tool, and running three Malware programmes, it still persisted.

 

I read through some documentation on removing it manually, and having spent three hours trying to Ex-ter-mi-nate it, the programme and data files were still there. I honestly do not feel like trying to go through registry keys today to scrub the rest of it by hand. No anti-Malware tool, with the latest databases, seems to want to remove it.

 

On the plus side, after running all of these, and re-installing Silverlight, Netflix is back to normal, and the lwq.me script requests are gone. There are likely still a few traces, and a full system backup is in my near future. I have already placed a purchase order for another SSD to use to clone this system, before my tinkering demolishes what is running at present.

 

My free advice, if you choose to accept it, is to beware even malware tools, and to research them in deep detail. Even tools downloaded from 'trusted sources' (whatever that means today), such as CNET, contain this kind of rubbish that is nearly impossible to eradicate.

 

Last, for the record, Silverlight is total rubbish, and I wish that Netflix would shift to another media platform. The performance, and reliability of Silverlight (v5.x) are horrible, and its vulnerabilities are rather too high for my liking, but sadly, Hulu still stuffs their media (with a premium, paid account) with adverts. I detest them, but could live with them if they scrapped the lead-in advert, as if the video stalls for any reason, whenever you refresh it to resume watching a film, you have to re-watch the same lead-in advert repeatedly.

 

To be honest, I'd rather pay £30/$50 per month for sans-advert content (I couldn't care less about their terrible 'original content', I merely want to view old films and entire television serials) than the current £5/$8 per month with the advertising. Hell, 10p/15¢ per video would also be fine by me.

 

Their adverts also come down to this kind of percentage base:

Credit Cards, Banks, and Loans: 60%

Automobiles: 25%

Local Grocery Markets: 14%

Technology/Other: 1%

 

Let me put it plainly:

I never buy new automobiles, whether in cash, lease, or whatever. I never have, and never shall buy a new auto.

I do not use credit, and do not apply for either credit, or loans. I don't believe in the concept of paying interest.

I already shop at local grocery markets, and their adverts and jingles are merely boring and tedious.

 

If they had more technology-related adverts, I would have less complaints. Literally 99% of the adverts have zero bearing on my life, or would motivate me in any way to buy anything they are selling. The most interesting advert is for a Fuji DSLR camera, that I find very brilliant, but 'tisn't something I would buy new.

 

That is why it was so critical for me to have Silverlight running properly (for Netflix, who have no adverts). The rest of the malware removal was just a perk. Again, I still haven't entirely removed ScorpionSaver. I don't even know if it is possible without spending days in the attempt.A

 

As I was typing this, Silverlight crashed, and I had to force-close plugin-container.exe!

 

I have never had any of these concerns on my Mac and Linux systems. I expect may of you have run across similar problems, so be very careful what tools you install to remedy them, and be doubly cautious as to what other 'free tools' such programmes may try to install: They can spell doom to you if you don't pay attention.

 

Netflix/Silverlight Bonus: If you have problems with Netflix/Silverlight, such as audio and video de-synchronising, hold Alt+Shift and then (left) click on the video. Select Stream Manager, then tick 'Manual Selection' and select the lowest option, then click apply. This resolves most of the problems, although you will need to do this every single time you start a new stream (even in the same tab/window), as there seems to be no way to make it a persistent preference setting. Thank you again, Microsoft, for making Silverlight a steaming pile of rubbish.


Edited by ZoriaRPG, 30 November 2013 - 02:52 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 07:34 PM

Mmm, to be honest, I have never met such a serious problem with Windows, (I have 7). And it's no joke, but I download a lot of stuff now and then, with NO antivirus (uses a lot of CPU in my laptop). 

 

If I did ever have a problem, the only one was the RECYCLER virus, but a restoration point solved it in 1,2,3 :D

 

But still, I wish I could try Linux, especially Linux Mint, but there are no drivers compatible for my lap either :(



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:08 PM

Yeeeaah... I don't know what you're doing wrong, but this isn't normal. I'm not running any kind of anti-virus or firewall. Yeah, you heard me - there is absolutely nothing protecting my computer other than common sense. I do install a program and do a check about every month, but I almost never find anything.

 

I'm running 7. I don't think Windows is perfect, but I rarely have problems with 7. I used to have all kinds of troubles back when I had my older computers, running on either 95, 2000, ME, XP or Vista, but my current machine is just trucking along without a hitch. Most of the issues I've had lately have been related to production errors concerning my GPU, which I got replaced anyways.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:39 AM

Mmm, to be honest, I have never met such a serious problem with Windows, (I have 7). And it's no joke, but I download a lot of stuff now and then, with NO antivirus (uses a lot of CPU in my laptop). 

 

If I did ever have a problem, the only one was the RECYCLER virus, but a restoration point solved it in 1,2,3 :D

 

But still, I wish I could try Linux, especially Linux Mint, but there are no drivers compatible for my lap either :(

 

What are the exact specifications (including GPU) of your system?

 

 

Mint is Ubuntu-based, and Ubuntu usually has a good record for compatibility: It may not be able to use all of the features of your hardware (at present), but you should be able to run basic VESA drivers on anything. Your 802.11 card may be the hardest component for driver options, but keep in mind that while not all drivers are included with most distros, they may still exist.. You may need to do a kernel build, or add drivers (apt-get is easy to use) to enable your hardware.


Edited by ZoriaRPG, 05 December 2013 - 02:40 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:11 AM

I don't know what you're doing to have such bad virus problems, but I run Vista and I don't have too many issues with viruses. I only have Avast installed as an anti-virus, and I go on some pretty questionable sites at times. I've only had one super-major virus problem come up, but that was before I started using Avast. Back then, I had a firewall, but no anti-virus.

 

The best near-foolproof way I found of getting rid of viruses completely was what I used for the above problem. I was at the local community college when I had to do this. I took my school-use flash drive (generally used to let me print out assignments I type on my laptop by moving them to the college computers and using their printer), and installed "DamnSmallLinux" on it. I booted my computer using the flash drive instead of the internal hard drive, then started treating my hard drive as though it were a flash drive. I slowly copied all my important stuff and everything that I knew for a fact were safe programs, and began using the flash drive to transfer them over to the college computers (with their permission, of course). Once I had rescued everything off of my laptop, I completely wiped everything and re-installed Windows from the backup partition on my laptop. Finally, I used the flash drive again to transfer everything back to where I had it before, then used Windows Update when I got home and had the several hours free time to re-update everything back up.

 

It was pretty slow work, but nothing I'd call overly difficult. I admit, it is a rather extreme option, but if you have a large enough flash drive or hard drive, you shouldn't lose any of your things. Now, dealing with my parents' computer is a different story. Considering I don't have permission to do such a method to clean it out, I have to rely on Google searches, MalwareBytes, and have to work on it about three times a year. Still, that's more user fault than the computer, though.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:45 AM

Everytime I see people with a vendetta against Windows, it's them complaining about viruses XD.  I'm with Migo on this one; I literally have no Antivirus installed, and haven't had a single virus on this laptop (running Windows 7), or malware/spyware.  When I'm looking to download things, I already know which sites I can trust (like roms for old games, for example).  I'm using Chrome with Adblocker Plus; I don't even HAVE NoScript.  


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

Yeah even I don't really use a antivirus I just have this fantasic thing called common sense. :P

Well I do have to have a antivirus on my desktop though, since my brother uses it to get online... can't never tell what he is doing on it.

 

But on my laptop I don't even have one the only thing I have is ad block on my web browsers (Comodo Dragon, and Ice Dragon) and I'm fine.

I haven't even had a virus problem with windows yet, just been smoove sailing.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:21 PM

What are the exact specifications (including GPU) of your system?

 

 

Mint is Ubuntu-based, and Ubuntu usually has a good record for compatibility: It may not be able to use all of the features of your hardware (at present), but you should be able to run basic VESA drivers on anything. Your 802.11 card may be the hardest component for driver options, but keep in mind that while not all drivers are included with most distros, they may still exist.. You may need to do a kernel build, or add drivers (apt-get is easy to use) to enable your hardware.

Well it's...

  • Lenovo G475 Laptop
  • Windows 7 Starter (Upgraded to Home Basic) 32 bits
  • 2 GB of RAM (1.6 is usable)
  • 250 GB hard drive
  • 1.3 ghz AMD E-300 Radeon processor
  • AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics Card

Yep, I think that's about it. :D


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Posted 26 December 2013 - 12:28 AM

Well it's...

  • Lenovo G475 Laptop
  • Windows 7 Starter (Upgraded to Home Basic) 32 bits
  • 2 GB of RAM (1.6 is usable)
  • 250 GB hard drive
  • 1.3 ghz AMD E-300 Radeon processor
  • AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics Card

Yep, I think that's about it. :D

 

Sorry about that delay. I've been busy working on a server array, and only now saw your response.

 

Linux drivers for your video chipset do exist:

 

http://driverscollec...SS=Linux x86_64

 

Both the 32-Bit and 64-Bit versions are in that link. Others have had problems with this, and there is a support thread for Ubuntu 11.10 here:

 

http://askubuntu.com...rking-for-11-10

 

I think that Mint uses an Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 kernel:

 

What problems exactly did you encounter when trying to install it?

 

I pulled a datasheet for your system: Your CPU is an AMD dual-core E--350. This should run under Ubuntu 11.10, and I know for a fact that it does under Ubuntu 12.04.

 

Which X interface (GUI) of Mint did you really want? I assume you want Cinnamon, or one of its own special X-interfaces. *I use Gnome on various Ubuntu kernels.)

 

The E-350 is 64-bit, so you could run 64-Bit Mint and add that driver package. How you do that depends on what package manager you use: I tend to use the CLI apt-get command for everything, but I occasionally need to manually configure .deb packages. I never use the GUI package managers, as I find them too limiting, and that they are often more trouble than they are worth.

 

I strongly suggest starting with Mint Debian, instead of Mint-16, as I am not sure what packages and dependency trees can be used in Mint-16. To be quite honest, Ubuntu 12.04 would be your best bet for an out of the box, working environment.

 

If you go with Mint, you will want to read the frequent problems page:

 

http://www.linuxmint.../rel_debian.php

 

I am not familiar with what the devs did to make the kernel for Petra (Mint-16), and how far it deviates from a standard Ubuntu kernel. I can imaging they changed out a good many modules. Either way, try making a live-CD of both of the latest versions, as your problem may have been cured with the newer releases.

 

If you are still looking to do this, and need any assistance, let me know, keeping this in mind (from the MInt FAQ):

 

Does Linux Mint include proprietary drivers?

No. Proprietary drivers such as the ATI or nVidia drivers are easy to install but not installed by default.

 

This is probably why you had problems, and you simply need to install the packages for your hardware. You can do this, either by adding them as kernel extensions, or by adding them directly into the kernel and recompiling your kernel, but that is not a process that I advise to anyone new to the OS.


Edited by ZoriaRPG, 26 December 2013 - 12:30 AM.

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