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[TheLegend_njf]

Moosh suggested I upgrade to 2.53.1_Win_Beta_51. It has crashed 4 times, something that has never happened to me in previous versions. He told me I best report it, here I am reporting it. 

[Magi_Hero]

Please also post the allegro log file from the directory.

Edited by Magi_Hero, 06 June 2020 - 10:19 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

ZQuest Creator, v.2.53.1 Beta 51

Allocating tunes buffer (16.00k/16.00k)... OK

Allocating map buffer (435.63k/451.63k)... OK

Allocating combo buffer (5.98k/457.60k)... OK

Allocating string buffer (680.00k/1.11M)... OK

Allocating door combo buffer (159.50k/1.27M)... OK

Allocating dmap buffer (234.00k/1.50M)... OK

Allocating combo buffer (1.62M/3.11M)... OK

Allocating color data buffer (314.11k/3.42M)... OK

Allocating tile buffer (8.50M/11.92M)... OK

Allocating tile grab buffer (511.88k/20.42M)... OK

Allocating trash buffer (97.66k/20.51M)... OK

Allocating item buffer (31.12k/20.54M)... OK

Allocating weapon buffer (2.50k/20.54M)... OK

Allocating guy buffer (70.00k/20.61M)... OK

Allocating combo class buffer (33.30k/20.65M)... OK

Allocating combo undo buffer (1.62M/22.26M)... OK

Allocating new tile undo buffer (511.88k/22.76M)... OK

Resetting new tile buffer...OK

Allocating file path buffers (14.00k/22.77M)... OK

Initializing Allegro... OK

Loading data files:

Fonts.Dat...OK

ZQuest.Dat...OK

QST.Dat...OK

SFX.Dat...OK

Found zquest.txt

Found shield_block_flags.txt

Found zscript.txt

Found zstrings.txt

Initializing sound driver... OK

gfx mode set at -2 8bpp 800 x 600 

Loading Quest: new quest...

 

Decrypting...okay.

Opening...okay.

Reading Header...okay.

Made in ZQuest 250 Beta 33

Reading Rules...okay.

Reading Strings...okay.

Reading Doors...okay.

Reading DMaps...okay.

Reading Misc. Data...okay.

Reading Misc. Colors...okay.

Reading Game Icons...okay.

Reading Items...okay.

Reading Weapons...okay.

Reading Maps...okay.

Reading Combos...okay.

Reading Combo Aliases...okay.

Reading Color Data...okay.

Reading Tiles...okay.

Reading Tunes...okay.

Reading Cheat Codes...okay.

Reading Init. Data...okay.

Reading Custom Guy Data...okay.

Reading Custom Link Sprite Data...okay.

Reading Custom Subscreen Data...okay.

Reading FF Script Data...okay.

Reading SFX Data...okay.

Reading Item Drop Sets...okay.

Reading Favorite Combos...okay.

Done.

 

[ZQUEST CREATOR METADATA]

Last saved in ZC Editor Version: 2.53.1

Loading Quest: c:\Users\grant\Documents\My Games\Zelda Classic\05. TRIFORCE\2.53.1_Win_Beta_51\TRIFORCE_Demo.qst...

 

Decrypting...okay.

Opening...okay.

Reading Header...okay.

Made in ZQuest 250 Beta 33

Reading Rules...okay.

Reading Strings...okay.

Reading Doors...okay.

Reading DMaps...okay.

Reading Misc. Data...okay.

Reading Misc. Colors...okay.

Reading Game Icons...okay.

Reading Items...okay.

Reading Weapons...okay.

Reading Maps...okay.

Reading Combos...okay.

Reading Combo Aliases...okay.

Reading Color Data...okay.

Reading Tiles...okay.

Reading Tunes...okay.

Reading Cheat Codes...okay.

Reading Init. Data...okay.

Reading Custom Guy Data...okay.

Reading Custom Link Sprite Data...okay.

Reading Custom Subscreen Data...okay.

Reading FF Script Data...okay.

Reading SFX Data...okay.

Reading Item Drop Sets...okay.

Reading Favorite Combos...okay.

Done.

 

[ZQUEST CREATOR METADATA]

Last saved in ZC Editor Version: 2.53.1

Saving Quest...

 

Writing Header...okay.

Writing Rules...okay.

Writing Strings...okay.

Writing Doors...okay.

Writing DMaps...okay.

Writing Misc. Data...okay.

Writing Misc. Colors...okay.

Writing Game Icons...okay.

Writing Items...okay.

Writing Weapons...okay.

Writing Maps...okay.

Writing Combos...okay.

Writing Combo Aliases...okay.

Writing Color Data...okay.

Writing Tiles...okay.

Writing MIDIs...okay.

Writing Cheat Codes...okay.

Writing Init. Data...okay.

Writing Custom Guy Data...okay.

Writing Custom Link Sprite Data...okay.

Writing Custom Subscreen Data...okay.

Writing FF Script Data...okay.

Writing SFX Data...okay.

Writing Item Drop Sets...okay.

Writing Favorite Combos...okay.

Encrypting...okay.

Removing timers. 

Cleaning aliases. 

Cleaning subscreens. 

Cleaning sfx. 

Cleaning script buffer. 

Cleaning qst buffers. 

Cleaning maps. 

Cleaning tile buffers. 

Cleaning misc. 

Cleaning midis. 

Cleaning undotilebuf. 

Cleaning datafiles. 

Cleaning bitmaps...... OK. 

Saving Quest...

 

Writing Header...okay.

Writing Rules...okay.

Writing Strings...okay.

Writing Doors...okay.

Writing DMaps...okay.

Writing Misc. Data...okay.

Writing Misc. Colors...okay.

Writing Game Icons...okay.

Writing Items...okay.

Writing Weapons...okay.

Writing Maps...okay.

Writing Combos...okay.

Writing Combo Aliases...okay.

Writing Color Data...okay.

Writing Tiles...okay.

Writing MIDIs...okay.

Writing Cheat Codes...okay.

Writing Init. Data...okay.

Writing Custom Guy Data...okay.

Writing Custom Link Sprite Data...okay.

Writing Custom Subscreen Data...okay.

Writing FF Script Data...okay.

Writing SFX Data...okay.

Writing Item Drop Sets...okay.

Writing Favorite Combos...okay.

[Magi_Hero]

Does the issue persist through using ZCLauncher and trying different scale/resolutions?

Is this both player and creator?

[Timelord]

Moosh suggested I upgrade to 2.53.1_Win_Beta_51. It has crashed 4 times, something that has never happened to me in previous versions. He told me I best report it, here I am reporting it. 

 

Which programme is crashing: zelda.exe, or zquest.exe ?

 

Does any specific action precipitateit?

[Timelord]

Moosh suggested I upgrade to 2.53.1_Win_Beta_51. It has crashed 4 times, something that has never happened to me in previous versions. He told me I best report it, here I am reporting it. 

 

Adding a quoted response here, in case you didn't see the above. I don't have enough information to proceed at all, although I can certainly provide more builds.

 

Basically, I need to know if ZQuest Editor crashes, if ZC Player crashes, or both; and if they do so immediately on opening a quest, or if they do so at a specific point, or on a specific action. From what I can see in the partial logfile, you opened ZQ Editor and loaded a quest. I see no data from ZC Player, and I do not know if that logfile is incomplete. 

 

Should you feel up to it, you can log into openzc.org and attach any files that you need to posts there. The physical limit on file size is very large for the bug report forum, and they remain inline with the posts.

 

If only one quest causes this, then it'd help to have the file so that I can debug the programme. If you feel the need to send it in private, we will keep it in confidence.

 

If there is any additional software interfacing during the crashes, such as video capture, then I need to know what they are; and last, it is possible that it is a configuration file issue, or that you have mixed files.

 

As such, I need to know if you used the base, unzipped 2.53.1 distro, or if you copied files to a path with an older set of base files. If the latter, I need to know what version you were previously using. e.g. If you copied only zelda.exe, and zquest.exe, to an old 2.53.1 installation, then it could very well crash at start-up because it requires the newer zelda.dat file.

 

The older versions use a run-length-encoded (RLE) sprite for the splash screen, while the new builds use a bitmap sprite; and if you use a .dat file with the RLE, when trying to load a RLE and display as it as a bitmap, ZC will segfault.

 

I would like to resolve this, and document anything that I learn during the process, should it occur for anyone else.

 

If you need a specific version to resume work in the interim, we keep an archive of all older builds.

[Moosh]

PC specs could also be helpful I imagine. From what NJF described to me this was a frequent, seemingly random crash, possibly tied to tabbing out of the program window. I'm unsure if it was ZC or ZQuest that crashed. It started happening after I encouraged him to do a full update, so this is a fresh install of the latest build. I have not yet encountered any similar problems, worrying me that it could be an issue specific to his hardware, but I also haven't done as much work in TRIFORCE specifically. It might be a good idea to send a copy of TRIFORCE in private just to see if anything crashes while idling. It's a pretty big quest.

Edited by Moosh, 07 June 2020 - 09:25 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

It's ZC, and usually when I leave the window to click on something else.

 

My hardware should be fine? What specifically in the hardware are you referring to? 

Those are a lot of things to check, so I'll have to tackle them one at a time, it might take a few posts. 

[Russ]

It's ZC, and usually when I leave the window to click on something else.

This sounds exactly like what I experience. Are you using the GDI driver, or DirectDraw?

[TheLegend_njf]

This sounds exactly like what I experience. Are you using the GDI driver, or DirectDraw?

How do I find out? 

[Timelord]

How do I find out? 

 

 

Take a screenshot of the ZCL, Drivers tab.

 

First thing to do, though, is edit zc.cfg, and set zc_win_proc_fix = 1 , then tell me if that fixes it. If it was already set to 1, then try it set to = 0.

[TheLegend_njf]

It was defaulted to avgddriverw. I'll try another one. 

Update: It doesn't matter which one I pick, it seems as soon as I click out of the window, to work on zquest or something, it freezes because as soon as I return to ZC, it's already not responding. First sign being the music stops playing as soon as I click on zquest, which is an indicator that ZC has stopped responding because usually the music keeps playing. 

[TheLegend_njf]

So I think I might have figured out something.

 

Moosh broke it.

 

Jk

 

Though it might be true, when I upgraded from 2.53 to 2.53.1, Moosh recommended I just copy over the cfg files from 2.53 to keep my own settings. I'm not sure how related this is, but I scrapped the old 2.53 upgrade and started again fresh with a backup of my TRIFORCE file (because sfx and everything seemed like it was starting to break).

 

Moral of the story.

Moosh broke it? 

Too early to tell yet. 

[Timelord]

So I think I might have figured out something.

 

Moosh broke it.

 

Jk

 

Though it might be true, when I upgraded from 2.53 to 2.53.1, Moosh recommended I just copy over the cfg files from 2.53 to keep my own settings. I'm not sure how related this is, but I scrapped the old 2.53 upgrade and started again fresh with a backup of my TRIFORCE file (because sfx and everything seemed like it was starting to break).

 

Moral of the story.

Moosh broke it? 

Too early to tell yet. 

 

So, out of the box, unzipped, it works fine?

Did you try toggling zc_win_proc_fix?

[TheLegend_njf]

I'll try it if it crashes again, it seems so far maybe that downloading with it's installed cfg files might have done the trick, copying over the cfg files from 2.53 might have broke it the last time, which if you think about, that would probably make sense of the cfg files are specifically designed to only work in the correct version. I haven't had problems since redownloading 2.53.1.