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[Mero]

Yayyy, Lizalfos.

Rock-tossing...?

Oh riiiiight... Rock-tossing...the gauntlet near the entry to Death Valley. I'll have to figure out what to do for that....

It also appears in the valey after the river devil.

[Cukeman]

I am sure these guys have the most sprites in the game. Yow!
I actually don't remember if they toss their clubs or not, but I sprited it:

These sprites have been reposted HERE

Row 1: Normal
Row 2: Backswing + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)
Row 3: Swing (High) + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)
Row 4: Swing (Low) + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)
Row 5: Toss (High)
Row 6: Toss (Low)
Row 7: Tossed Club (High) - (N 1,2,3,4) (S 1,2,3,4) (W 1,2,3,4) (E 1,2,3,4)
Row 8: Tossed Club (Low) - (N 1,2,3,4) (S 1,2,3,4) (W 1,2,3,4) (E 1,2,3,4)

Rows 9-13: Samples

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Row 1: Popping up animation East
Row 2: Popping up animation East (with Fence)
Row 3: Popping up animation West
Row 4: Popping up animation West (with Fence)
Row 5: Popping up animation South
Row 6: Popping up animation South (with Fence)
Row 7 & 8: Popping up animation North
Row 9 & 10: Popping up animation North (with Fence)
Far Right Columns: Fence Construction Samples

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Row 1 (Left): Tossing Rock East + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4
Row 2 (Left): Tossing Rock East + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4 (with Fence)
Row 3 (Left): Tossing Rock West + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4
Row 4 (Left): Tossing Rock West + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4 (with Fence)
Row 5 (Left): Tossing Rock North + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4
Row 6 (Left): Tossing Rock North + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4 (with Fence)
Row 1, 2, & 3 (Right): Tossing Rock South + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4
Row 4, 5, & 6 (Right): Tossing Rock South + Rock Sprites 1, 2, 3, 4 (with Fence)

These sprites have been reposted HERE

Row 1: Normal
Row 2: With Spear + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)
Row 3: Thrusting Spear + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)
Row 4: With Spear + Weapon Sprites (N, S, W, E)

Rows 6-10: Samples

Edited by Cukeman, 12 October 2017 - 02:37 AM.

[Mero]

I was expecting these tomorrow, but boy am I impressed I'm looking at the orange ones right now, and these do top all you're other work. I LOVE THEM! You can take a break for a week now you deserve it.

[Radien]

It also appears in the valey after the river devil.

That's what I meant when I said "the entrance to Death Valley." I realize it's primarily a passageway to the southeastern region, but I see it as a sort of "Brush With Death Valley." (cue faint groaning)

I was expecting these tomorrow, but boy am I impressed I'm looking at the orange ones right now, and these do top all you're other work. I LOVE THEM! You can take a break for a week now you deserve it.

The Fokkerus are still my favorite -- I dunno, I seem to have a thing for the weird, intimidating Great Palace enemies -- but these Lizalfos are good too. Hmmm, the spears animate differently from the swords; they thrust instead of slash. Does that mean they will be functionally different from Ironknuckles, rather than just more difficult/dangerous?...

[Mero]

Hmmm, the spears animate differently from the swords; they thrust instead of slash. Does that mean they will be functionally different from Ironknuckles, rather than just more difficult/dangerous?...

Yup,

[Radien]

Yup,

Nice. I'm guessing the attack will be pretty quick since it presumably won't cover as much space as a slash.


So hey, I wanted to do something to thank you for letting me edit your enemies. Many of my tiles are questionably useful in a Classic style quest, as editing them into Classic style would require too much "backtracking." But the Bubbles are a different story. So I whipped this up for you. I hope it will be useful:



As I'm sure you can tell, the first row is a regular Z2 Bubble, while the second row is a "Great" Bubble (at least that's what I call it; the game apparently doesn't name them). I colored them into the orange/red CSet that I found in the Lizalfos sprites, since there seemed to be plenty of colors, but obviously, you can recolor them however you want. You could even use 8-bit mode and recolor them to simulate the color-cycling that the original invariably must have used.

Why are there two sets of each enemy? Well, the first two rows are slightly rounded-off. You see, the original Z2 Bubbles seemed a little... well... octagonal. I wanted them to be more circular, so I edited them slightly.

But if you are a hardcore purist and want them to be as CLOSE to the originals as possible, rip the second two rows instead. As you might expect, the regular Bubble in the third row is pretty much unchanged from the original except for the colors. The only other change I made was that the tiles use a near-black outline color. The original used the transparency color for the lines, but that felt a little too "ghetto" to me.

[Mero]

I'm actually using the exact Great Bubble sprites except with black outlines but perhaps I could have it spilt into those smaller versions you made. Actually I think I'll do just that.

[Radien]

I'm actually using the exact Great Bubble sprites except with black outlines but perhaps I could have it spilt into those smaller versions you made. Actually I think I'll do just that.

Oh, are you scripting larger Bubbles?... I never imagined you would do that since all your other enemies are smaller, but okay, go ahead. Hopefully these will look just fine next to the originals, since I based them very closely on them.

[Mero]

Oh, are you scripting larger Bubbles?... I never imagined you would do that since all your other enemies are smaller, but okay, go ahead. Hopefully these will look just fine next to the originals, since I based them very closely on them.

Yeah I have a script that makes a bubble larger "2 tiles, but only 24 pixels" and offsets it accordingly. "+4 pixels"
I reallly appreciate these by the way.

[Radien]

Yeah I have a script that makes a bubble larger "2 tiles, but only 24 pixels" and offsets it accordingly. "+4 pixels"
I reallly appreciate these by the way.

Cool! So their hitbox remains the same; they just display a little larger?...

Since you are having them behave differently from the original game now, do you think you will have them split after just one hit, or a few hits, or many many hits?...

[Mero]

Cool! So their hitbox remains the same; they just display a little larger?...

Since you are having them behave differently from the original game now, do you think you will have them split after just one hit, or a few hits, or many many hits?...

Nope the hit box is also scaled and positioned to fit the enemies new extended sprite. And it takes many hits to defeat a king bubble. Probably about 16. Which happens to be the same amount it takes to defeat darklink, since making it any more then that would be way too hard.

[Cukeman]

Here's Rat Head / Tinsuit:

These sprites have been reposted HERE

In the second row he swings his arms back and forth while walking north/south.
Something that didn't seem to work well in profile.

Edited by Cukeman, 12 October 2017 - 02:36 AM.

[Mero]

That's awesome, great job with it!

[Cukeman]

So I did the standard Stalfos:

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Edited by Cukeman, 12 October 2017 - 02:36 AM.

[Mero]

Got them thanks.