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[The Satellite]

Robin, I want to read this when you're done. I like Fi (more than most other helpers anyway), even though she can be annoying. But some of the flack she gets is amusing.

One of the big things that bugged me is the shield meter, Some say it's new and cool, I think it's ridiculous. It's not enough they can burn up or shock you, they have to break after 10 hits ! I much prefered every shield lasting til you get the new one.

So don't take hits with the shield! Time a shield bash properly or don't even use it for defense. It really isn't that difficult; eventually, if you find boss rush and manage to beat 8 bosses, you can earn the Hylian Shield, which doesn't break, so hang in there.

I find this "take a break" garbage in video games hilarious. I'll take a break when I feel like it.

I know, I hate it too; it's why I was glad Nintendo didn't include any of these messages in SS (that I saw anyway).

[Adem]

I know, I hate it too; it's why I was glad Nintendo didn't include any of these messages in SS (that I saw anyway).

I feel like I remember Fi advising me to take a break, actually. Though, I could be wrong. Haha! And I don't mind her nearly as much as the other helpers (in fact, she's almost likeable towards the end), but I wish she had more character development...

Edited by Adem, 04 January 2012 - 04:39 PM.

[The Satellite]

Fi needed character development, yes, but even then, I found her more enjoyable than any other helper save King of Red Lions (who I say barely qualifies). I didn't really mind Navi until the 3D version of OoT, and now, well, I don't despise her, but I don't really like her anymore. Tatl was less annoying, and had a bit of character, so she was okay I guess. Midna... I just hate Midna. It seems like she causes the most and longest delays through the course of the game; she'll sit there, give you an objective, then dialogue will disappear entirely for like two seconds, but you can't move, since a new dialogue box pops up that says "Well, what are you waiting for? Get going!" I'M WAITING ON YOU, B****.

King of Red Lions, again, barely qualifies, but he lends the least advice, knowing that the player is smart enough to figure things out. This is very agreeable and I hate Nintendo for deviating away from this.

[Sheik]

Given her role in the plot and what Fi actually is, I feel that a character development would be out of place.

Spoiler

Her devlopment is "finished" at the second she meets Link because her purpose has been determined by Her Grace ever since her creation.

I believe she doesn't even has a real personality. She's a tool, much rather.

Edited by Yoshimi, 04 January 2012 - 05:39 PM.

[Golden Chocobo]

Why did Fi need development? I mean, she said what her purpose was... She was pretty much the spirit of the sword.

I mean, did you think Navi needed character development?

Midna had it, of course, but that was vital to the storyline... Ha.

[Sheik]

Why did Fi need development? I mean, she said what her purpose was... She was pretty much the spirit of the sword.

I mean, did you think Navi needed character development?

Midna had it, of course, but that was vital to the storyline... Ha.

Midna evolved like a freaking Pokémon. ...that's also probably what describes her best.

[Moosh]

I hate this game. I absolutely despise it. The controls, the annoying warnings from Fi (specifically when you have 3 hearts or get a new dousing thing for something you already know where to find), the FRIGGEN PUMPKIN BALANCING! I give this game a 3/10. It is so far the only Zelda game I have ever gotten so fed up with I refused to complete it.

[Ventus]

I hate this game. I absolutely despise it. The controls, the annoying warnings from Fi (specifically when you have 3 hearts or get a new dousing thing for something you already know where to find), the FRIGGEN PUMPKIN BALANCING! I give this game a 3/10. It is so far the only Zelda game I have ever gotten so fed up with I refused to complete it.

Ha ha, Poke you hate the game with the same reasons my mother does, lol. I have to say Nintendo in my opinion..."Failed" with some gamers eh?.

Edited by Ventus, 10 January 2012 - 09:19 PM.

[Sheik]

Well. The controls have their weak parts but they absolutely work. In fact, the only part that really annoyed my me was the Shield controls and I was able to beat the game without using the shield at all despite being a casualish badish gamer. (I still got the Hylian Shield recently, though :3)
Fi is accecptable. If you don't want her to bother you about hearts or battery just don't talk to her.
I'm not sure what you mean with the pumpkin thing.

[The Satellite]

There was a minigame on Pumpkin Landing where you had to balance pumpkins while taking them to a shed by moving left and right. It was pretty sketchy I admit, even though it involved no motion controls, but the harp minigame was much much worse. As was the harp itself. The motion controls are also only really bad when trying to swim, or drawing. That's why Nintendo should have included an alternate scheme at least for everything but the sword, and, well, the ship's cannon.

EDIT: I suppose that would eliminate being able to move and aim at the same time but no big loss; that's never necessary in-game, just convenient.

[HylianGlaceon]

There was a minigame on Pumpkin Landing where you had to balance pumpkins while taking them to a shed by moving left and right. It was pretty sketchy I admit, even though it involved no motion controls, but the harp minigame was much much worse. As was the harp itself. The motion controls are also only really bad when trying to swim, or drawing. That's why Nintendo should have included an alternate scheme at least for everything but the sword, and, well, the ship's cannon.

EDIT: I suppose that would eliminate being able to move and aim at the same time but no big loss; that's never necessary in-game, just convenient.

The Harp minigame isn't actually that hard once you get the hang of it. You just really have to focus and get a rhythm that matches one of the two guys watching your performance.

It still isn't exactly enjoyable, but it isn't as bad as some of the other minigames in the series.

[The Satellite]

True enough, I suppose. It's kinda stupid though to be thrust into that situation without any real practice with the song, and the guys waving their arms trick you and change the pattern on you that makes it hard to follow and play through the song well enough to consider it "cleared." I didn't like that aspect, and the fact that you basically need to play the song multiple times to get the rhythm down.

[Radien]

I am going to blithely waltz in and ignore the game-rating because I have two cool things to point out.


#1: It is possible to defeat Demise without using your sword to channel lightning. You just have to be REALLY good with a shield. Whenever he attacks, parry it with a well-timed shield bash. This won't always cause him to recoil: as the battle goes on, he will swing his sword twice in a row, and then three times.

In order to defend, you have to parry every single one, and don't counterattack until his combo is finished. Additionally, you can only hit him a few times before he attacks again, so be cautious.


#2: It might not be possible to truly "play" the harp like an ocarina, but have you noticed that the music it plays is always in key?... Continuing strumming, and the chords Link plays will change to match the background music for the area you are currently in. It will always sound beautiful, and never out of tune!

One interesting side effect of this is that the harp still changes chords even if there is no background music. It leaves me to wonder whether the music-less areas have a background track, but are simply set to zero volume.

I'm sorry the harp wasn't TRULY playable, but hey, at least it truly sounds pretty... And another thought that crossed my mind: wouldn't the Wii remote have been perfect for playing songs with the Wind Waker baton?...


Actually, I lied; I just thought of a third thing to mention:

#3: Go to the Sealed Grounds. Stand outside the entrance to the temple. Look up. There should be the ruins of a domed ceiling that has been cracked in half. If you look carefully, you'll see the emblems of three of the temple medallions from Ocarina of Time.

After the Goddess Statue drops from Skyloft and plugs up the "hole" in the Sealed Grounds, head back to that same spot and look up again. The domed ceiling is now complete again, and all six of the OoT temple medallions can be seen in a circle.


I love picking out these little details in Zelda games, so I may create a topic for just that purpose sometime. For now, I'm replaying SS on Hero Mode, so I'll take the opportunity to look for more easter eggs while I play through.


Also...

Midna evolved like a freaking Pokémon. ...that's also probably what describes her best.

Love for this post. <3

[TheLegend_njf]

Hmmm!!! There is a probability that there is a 90% chance that Fi is being discussed in this topic. I also calculate that Skyward Sword was the last installment of the Legend of Zelda series. I have analyzed the area for you and I discovered you can play this game by purchasing it at local entertainment stores, video game stores, or walmart. There is a 95% probability you'll need the Nintendo Wii, the Wii motion plus, and a new pack of batteries to play this game.

I am also detecting a mild disturbance that there is a probability of people from purezc message forum that there are some hostility over this game, though many are in favor. Which has created alot of debate. I will track this topic for you and put a marker on your map so you can find your way back into this this particular forum topic so you need to return.

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I also believe there is a 90% possibility that many cultures in the world are spoiled rotten and wants their own way all the time and to "feel important" that there are many cartoons, tv shows, movies, drugs, and so many other silly things designed to create that feeling. Shows like Dora the explorer makes babies and toddlers feel like everything is up to them, don't forget "Dora needs your help to stop Swiper!"

I don't want to dis Zelda by comparing it to Dora the explorer but Nintendo knew exactly How to stimulate those brain chemicals. Who cares if we are bullied in high school? The world depends on us when we turn on our Legend of Zelda.

Skyward Sword just exaggerates on those key recipes perfectly! Owning a bird that does not seem to need to eat, drink, and procreate because it has to always be ready to catch you. Owning a super-natural slave that a Goddess (Oh, that now that doesn't feel important!) has hired for you, people who seem to desperately want to sell items to you even though they say you are buying them out of business, and of course, like every Zelda game, being the most important guy in the world, associated with the most important girl in the world, trying to defeat the most powerful villain in the world.

Noooooooo!!!!! That doesn't make us feel powerful and mighty at all!

Now as I finish telling you that Nintendo is psychologically feeding our brains the sense of great importance in a reality that doesn't show us that same respect we kinda feel entitled to because it's built in our human genetics, I would like us all to take a moment to hold our Wii controller out, we need your help to control Link's sword and move it in a circular motion like this, and saaay "eyeball, no eyeballing!!!! Eyeball, no eyeballing!!!!"

Ooh maaaaaan!!!!!!!!

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 11 January 2012 - 08:33 AM.

[Sheik]

So that's what the pumpkin thing was about? You are rating a game by its minigames that aren't even necesarry to complete the game? My bad, you sure have high standarts, don't you?

Also, about complainment on the harp: I for one cannot play a real harp and as it is one of the most complicated instruments to learn I would not have liked to take a course of harp playing just to beat a videogame. What they did with the harp was alright and came closest to real harp playing without having to spend hours learning the actual instrument.

I am going to blithely waltz in and ignore the game-rating because I have two cool things to point out.
#1: It is possible to defeat Demise without using your sword to channel lightning. You just have to be REALLY good with a shield. Whenever he attacks, parry it with a well-timed shield bash. This won't always cause him to recoil: as the battle goes on, he will swing his sword twice in a row, and then three times.

In order to defend, you have to parry every single one, and don't counterattack until his combo is finished. Additionally, you can only hit him a few times before he attacks again, so be cautious.

It is also possible to beat him without the shield (and it's terrible controls): In the first part of the battle (before the lighting starts) you attack him with this pattern: 1)spin attack 2)vertical slice 3)backflip. You should not take damage if timed correctly and you should take him down argueably quick. In the second part of the battle just stay close to him but backflip if he attacks and perform lighting channeling Skyward Strikes whenever possible.