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#1096 Russ

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:36 PM

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I went and listened to Emerald's Champion theme, and the first thing that came to mind was: How can you even say that? I thought it was a pathetic attempt at trying to sound epic, personally, when Lance's theme is the embodiment of epic. I dn't see how you can say it's more of a Champion theme, when the final showdown should have an epic feel, which Lance's theme captures perfectly in my opinion

Well, I'll admit, Lance's theme is epic, but it doesn't fit Lance. It fits Red like a glove. The whole feel of this song is "This is it. You're facing the single most powerful being in creation. Win, or die!" It fits Red, but not Lance, who, let's face it, definitely doesn't deserve that kind of description.

Now let's look at Emerald's champion music. It starts out with a bang, sending you a clear message: This is it. Then it drops down to a little softer, seeming to say "You've overcome every obstacle, now just persevere a little longer, you can do it." The in picks up again, but not too hard, as if to tell you "This guy's all brute strength. Don't just rush in, think! Use your head, you can beat him!" At least, that's what I got out of it. Ya, I'm hearing a song talk to me. Maybe I should see a psychiatrist. icon_razz.gif

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And I prefer to see it as blessed with the nostalgia factor.

Amen to that. Nostalgia makes any game, even the crappiest game ever, seem 10,000 times better.

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Nah, that's not violent. Violent would be pinning you up against the wall and shouting several of the Johto games' strong points and slapping you after naming each one

You have no idea how hard I was laughing here. icon_lol.gif

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Eh, the one's I've heard so far are forgettable

Listen to the desert song, the Sky Tower/Mt. Chimney song, the Elite Four battle song, and the Slateport City song. Now tell me those are forgettable.

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He used to say "This gym is great! It's full of girls!" Now it says "This gym is great! It's full of strong trainers!" ... Which could be said about a lot of the other gyms, so now it makes the guy seem superfluous. Did Nintendo turn anti-peeper all of a sudden?

Ya, Nintendo did go a loft softer in that aspect. In Fr/Lg, they made a huge point about how Ericka's gym was all girls. I don't even remember them mentioning it in HG.

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Honestly, I'm trying to get the thread moving back in its original purpose, it'd help if you contributed to that instead of continuing this derailment...

Right... um. Who agrees that Blue is a jerk who doesn't deserve to be a gym leader? Honestly, in my opinion, (SPOILER)The gym should be the rival's. After all, he is Giovanni's son, and other gyms (like Falkner's and Janine's) have been passed down to the kids from the dad.

#1097 The Satellite

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

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Then you would have grown with the Ruby and Sapphire games because Pokemon is still VERY popular >_>
No, no, I still probably would not have, and I'll explain why. At that point in my life, I was in a private school. Nobody there talked about Pokémon. When R/B/Y came out, I was in a public school and everybody was talking about it, so naturally I was curious and jumped on the bandwagon. But chances are I would never have played Ruby and Sapphire if I missed the first two gens because I was in an environment where video game info was pretty scarce. So yeah, I still probably would not have played Pokémon at all if I didn't grow up with R/B/Y if that circumstance stayed the same. But, well, history is history, that's the way it happened, and there's no possible way to predict a different outcome. icon_deformed.gif
QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 24 2010, 09:36 PM) View Post
Well, I'll admit, Lance's theme is epic, but it doesn't fit Lance. It fits Red like a glove. The whole feel of this song is "This is it. You're facing the single most powerful being in creation. Win, or die!" It fits Red, but not Lance, who, let's face it, definitely doesn't deserve that kind of description.
I guess that kinda makes sense, but I didn't know about Red or Kanto being in G/S at the time. So that's how it felt to me. icon_razz.gif
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Now let's look at Emerald's champion music. It starts out with a bang, sending you a clear message: This is it. Then it drops down to a little softer, seeming to say "You've overcome every obstacle, now just persevere a little longer, you can do it." The in picks up again, but not too hard, as if to tell you "This guy's all brute strength. Don't just rush in, think! Use your head, you can beat him!" At least, that's what I got out of it. Ya, I'm hearing a song talk to me. Maybe I should see a psychiatrist. icon_razz.gif
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I didn't really get that. The only songs that speak to me are ones with lyrics. icon_nerd.gif

Eh, personally, I'm all for a high-powered tune that just makes the fight all the more epic. It's why I'm such a big fan of The Dark Knight's soundtrack. Powerful, pounding, doesn't let up, completely epic... It's pure win. And I'm talking about both the soundtrack and Lance's theme. icon_razz.gif
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Amen to that. Nostalgia makes any game, even the crappiest game ever, seem 10,000 times better.
Now this makes me want to pull out a few crappy games from the past and try them out. Problem is, I can't really think of any. I mean, this was back when even video games based off of movies were good (for the most part), so that's a long way. icon_eek.gif
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You have no idea how hard I was laughing here. icon_lol.gif
I do try.
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Listen to the desert song, the Sky Tower/Mt. Chimney song, the Elite Four battle song, and the Slateport City song. Now tell me those are forgettable.
K. Maybe later. Stupid Wii browsing. >:O
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Ya, Nintendo did go a loft softer in that aspect. In Fr/Lg, they made a huge point about how Ericka's gym was all girls. I don't even remember them mentioning it in HG.
I believe the same guy said nearly the same thing in Gens I and II about the gym being all girls. Ya know, the peeper.
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Right... um. Who agrees that Blue is a jerk who doesn't deserve to be a gym leader? Honestly, in my opinion, (SPOILER)The gym should be the rival's. After all, he is Giovanni's son, and other gyms (like Falkner's and Janine's) have been passed down to the kids from the dad.
Eh, maybe he will, someday. I think Blue took it over just because somebody needed to. And as far as Blue not deserving to run a gym... Don't get Blaman started. icon_deformed.gif

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 01:48 PM

Well, now I just caught Suicune about 5 minutes ago. After taking it down twice, and throwing about 80 Ultra Balls, 30 Great Balls, and some Heavy, Fast, Quick and other Balls at it. I tried it a third time after I took it down, with Raikou as my first pokemon, which hadn't been used at all so it was still level 40. I used Spark twice, and then used Quick Attack twice. It was paralyzed by the second Spark, and only had either 1 or 2 HP, then I threw 2 Net Balls, and caught it with the second one. icon_biggrin.gif I am thrilled.

#1099 Russ

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 01:59 PM

Lucky. It took me forever to catch him. I still haven't caught any of the runners, though I guess I could trade over my Mean Look Froslass from Platinum and catch Latias with her.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 03:16 PM

I'm swapping my Meganium for a Venusaur. Meganium is just too weak. His stats are far behind the rest of my party.

icon_sigh.gif Now I have to get 80 BP to get the Energy Ball TM, or I can use the SolarBeam + Sunny Day combo.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 03:48 PM

You could opt for Grass Knot as well, because most of the really difficult stuff you'll be facing will also be heavy.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 25 2010, 01:59 PM) View Post

Lucky. It took me forever to catch him. I still haven't caught any of the runners, though I guess I could trade over my Mean Look Froslass from Platinum and catch Latias with her.

You could also go and catch a Haunter in the Safari Zone with Mean Look. Your Pokemon will always go first regardless of level/speed.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:34 PM

Yeah, the only thing you really need to worry about it Roar...Biggest pain in the neck ever.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:44 PM

Ya. I never used my Master Ball in Platinum or Emerald. I'm tempted to trade those up/over to HG and catch Raikou and Entei with them.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:48 PM

Don't. Runners are hard to catch, but not worth it. You should save those for when you really need it. Of course, I've been living with that motto and have like...8 of them. icon_deformed.gif

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:14 PM

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You could also go and catch a Haunter in the Safari Zone with Mean Look. Your Pokemon will always go first regardless of level/speed.
Not with Latios/Latias. Speed matters when you face them, oddly.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:36 PM

Ya, I though that was a bit weird. I guess by the time you get to Lati@s, they expect you to be high enough leveled out to-speed them. Which I'm not. Which is why I need my mean look Froslass from Platinum if I want to catch Latias.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:41 PM

I'm gonna hate this Eevee training thing. It was annoying enough trying to hatch six additional Eevees, even with Magby and Flame Body in the party, but now I've got to bond with two Eevees and evolve them at different times of the day. Flareon, Vaporeon, and Jolteon are no problem: I already used a Fire Stone on one and a Water Stone on the other, and will buy a Thunderstone from the Pokéathlon Dome later. Leafeon and Glaceon won't be that big a deal later: Silly Cat 2 offered to evolve them for me if I traded them over. It's the bonding with the future Espeon and Umbreon I'm gonna hate. icon_frown.gif

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:45 PM

Ya, I know what you mean. Maybe I can bond with one and get an Espeon, and you can bond with the other and get an Ubreon, then we can trade or something.

Oh ya, so I'm starting to complete the Pokedex by catching all the Johto Pokemon. I think the hardest part is going to be getting all the different stones to evolve them. I'm either gonna need to go undeground and Platinum and dig them all up, or do the Pokeathalon a lot. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:47 PM

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I'm either gonna need to go undeground and Platinum and dig them all up, or do the Pokeathalon a lot. icon_rolleyes.gif
Just do a course you own at over and over. I own at the Power Course with Blastoise, Golem, and Pidgeot. It's just the Ball Roll course I hate, because I either get low points or no points, but since I devastate everybody else in the first two games, it rarely matters. icon_heh.gif


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