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#1096 ShadowTiger

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:24 PM

Okay, thanks very much for the screenshots, truly. All of 'em are fixed now.

I could've sworn I'd fixed the last two. I actually remember in my mind doing that, several times. What the heck is up with that...

Bug Fixes and ice cream cones

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#1097 pixcalibur

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

Made it through Marathon. Some questions on some things in there


Couple of heart pieces that I have no idea how to get. Not sure how to deflect shots into the orbs

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Stuck here. Not able to go back up to the next room

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Can't push the block further up, so you end up stuck and not able to go back

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Given the room above is blocked off from a prior bug correction so that now can't go below the bridge, can't access the vertical path to the chest below. Consider adding a little connection to reach the vertical path

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This path doesn't work. Can't use stepladder to reach the floating platforms

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No clue how to reach the key and chest in these two pictures. Walls just block off everything

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#1098 Erdrick

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:42 AM

Had an inquiry: Is there any point to the Space map? I used the Dream Flute on the sleeping target and it puts me in this weird Space overworld. The only problem is that almost everything is unsolid and you can walk off the screen to some...interesting screens. By interesting I mean discoloured tiles.

#1099 ShadowTiger

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE(pixcalibur @ Nov 27 2012, 09:59 PM) View Post

Made it through Marathon. Some questions on some things in there
Couple of heart pieces that I have no idea how to get. Not sure how to deflect shots into the orbs

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I fixed the first pne. I moved the mirror more toward the left, and it can be moved into position. You'll have to move one of the blocks near the hopper that accepts the reflected magic so you can push the mirror downward. The second one is a bit trickier, but it's likely still possible. Basically, a mirror-robe enemy must get into that circle and shoot a blast directly at the inner mirror, I suppose. In any case, made it slightly easier in the next version.

Though to be honest, I got it to trigger literally one and a half seconds in as I entered the room from the west. A Mirror-robe was aligned with me, on the right side of the screen, and just fired at me. Triggered it immediately. Also fixed its undercombo. icon_razz.gif It was a stair corner previously. ^^. Heh.


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Stuck here. Not able to go back up to the next room

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Yeah that one was a weird one. I think I made it worse. It has to do with NES Dungeon style dmaps only being walkable in the center of the border of the screen, not anywhere else that isn't on the center, like the walkway in that screen.

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Can't push the block further up, so you end up stuck and not able to go back

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Fixed.

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Given the room above is blocked off from a prior bug correction so that now can't go below the bridge, can't access the vertical path to the chest below. Consider adding a little connection to reach the vertical path

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... *sigh* ... I hate Marathon. icon_sweat.gif I might come back to this one later. Rather frustrating. I feel like I need to start over again with this one. It's been plaguing me since the beginning.

... ... Did I ever mention yet that this quest is weird? icon_freak.gif

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This path doesn't work. Can't use stepladder to reach the floating platforms

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Fixed!

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No clue how to reach the key and chest in these two pictures. Walls just block off everything

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Oh! Apparently, one (ONE. O_O ) of these little tiny barriers that form the maze is walkable! But yeah, you're right, it actually wasn't possible to get there. What an odd place. Added another little illusory break in the barrier near the right lamp.

... ... damn I hate Marathon.


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Had an inquiry: Is there any point to the Space map? I used the Dream Flute on the sleeping target and it puts me in this weird Space overworld. The only problem is that almost everything is unsolid and you can walk off the screen to some...interesting screens. By interesting I mean discoloured tiles.
That area is from a new dungeon / area I plan on working on eventually, though admittedly, I haven't a clue as to what I'm putting in there. If you have any ideas or requests, feel free to suggest something. Absolutely.

#1100 vravelo

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:45 PM

Once I start another re-run n this quest ... I get in troubles.. WthSmiley.gif
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where is that, mirror shield - located ..???? icon_wacky.gif Man.. WthSmiley.gif

#1101 pixcalibur

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:25 AM

Marathon is rather nuts to work with. Post 1099 pics tested

#1 and #2: still can't get HP's. Pic #1 would need extra width of space separating orb from cannon to allow mirror robe to walk in that space. Pic #2 can't move anything.

#3 is ok

#6 not fixed. Still can't walk onto floating platforms

Last 2 pics can't find illusion walls


Also, replacing super darknuts with essentially bomb octoroks may have just make Marathon even HARDER than before. Life refills are harder to find now and doesn't help that bomb octoroks are basically super darknuts with long range attacks and without the dropped hearts and respawning.

#1102 pixcalibur

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:02 AM

Some Deku Tree progress


Are the stairs supposed to be there, or are you supposed to go through Statues first?

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Stuck here. Door doesn't open to the left, and can't reach the lower bombable wall either. Is this supposed to be a dead end?

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Was this potion shop supposed to sell anything better than this stuff?

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Stuck in the upper left corner after beating Geist and Patra 3 and going through cutscene.

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Edited by pixcalibur, 01 December 2012 - 06:58 PM.


#1103 vravelo

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:54 AM

gret job.. but still , any lead to the mirror shield.??? can't locate icon_blink.gif
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QUOTE(pixcalibur @ Nov 29 2012, 03:02 AM) View Post

Some Deku Tree progress
A little tricky to explain. Basically consider removing those stairs, as it shortcuts into the tree without needing to defeat the bosses on 1F, which opens the tree entrance by the way. Makes it confusing whether to enter by those stairs or through Statues.

Given entering by the shortcut puts the blocks in the "E" position, and if you have to come from the "W" path to reach the shortcut, could consider putting a "W" switch at the shortcut entrance to save tedious backtracking issues given using F6 or getting hit by windrobe resets everything. Already stuck on "E" and "S" routes on 2F, so thinking about trying path with block in "W" position if I can reach the shortcut entrance.

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Stuck here. Door doesn't open to the left, and can't reach the lower bombable wall either. Assuming you can use this path to get to the entrance to open the shortcut in the above picture.

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Was this potion shop supposed to sell anything better than this stuff?

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Stuck in the upper left corner after beating Geist and Patra 3 and going through cutscene. If you have to approach this when block is in "W" position, this will make very tedious backtracking unless a "W" switch is placed at room below where shortcut entrance is

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(vravelo @ Nov 28 2012, 03:45 PM) View Post

Once I start another re-run n this quest ... I get in troubles.. WthSmiley.gif
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where is that, mirror shield - located ..???? icon_wacky.gif Man.. WthSmiley.gif



Way near the end of the game in Marathon.

#1105 vravelo

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:03 PM

geez,, thanks a lot, but how could I reflect those genie beam before ..????
they are at the second door and need to be boosted to open the pass ,, the mirror is at the end ?? then how C'om ?? icon_blink.gif
mmm.. need to go and check on this .... icon_confused2.gif icon_confused2.gif
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QUOTE(pixcalibur @ Nov 29 2012, 11:48 AM) View Post

Way near the end of the game in Marathon.



#1106 pixcalibur

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE(vravelo @ Nov 29 2012, 11:03 AM) View Post

geez,, thanks a lot, but how could I reflect those genie beam before ..????
they are at the second door and need to be boosted to open the pass ,, the mirror is at the end ?? then how C'om ?? icon_blink.gif
mmm.. need to go and check on this .... icon_confused2.gif icon_confused2.gif
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thanks



Level 3 boomerang is able to reflect projectiles back, including wizzrobe blasts, death octoroks, and even lionels and stalfos 3 swords.

#1107 vravelo

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:52 PM

AJA!! found a fatal bug on my sav file icon_eek.gif I'm unable to get the L-3 boomer anymore
most I can get is the "blue one" 2 -
when i went down to that place , after using two relics -- opened the trunk and the blue boomer was the only thing in there
I wonder why - most re-start from ground or search for my other sav-file icon_blink.gif
scary isn't icon_eek.gif icon_blink.gif
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Any 1 know about that DEAD DUNGEON ?? what give ?? beside some walking hands and weird walking darknuts..
the place appear to be dead someone can throw light about this dungeon ???? icon_blink.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif
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QUOTE(pixcalibur @ Nov 29 2012, 05:28 PM) View Post

Level 3 boomerang is able to reflect projectiles back, including wizzrobe blasts, death octoroks, and even lionels and stalfos 3 swords.

Edited by vravelo, 29 November 2012 - 11:01 PM.


#1108 vravelo

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:26 AM

mmm...! I was wrong afterall,~
on this started new game, I manged to get two stone relics and went down there on the construction -swamp!
after making to the room and opening the trunk ....? -- same thing -blue boomer or level 2 boomerang no level 3 at all icon_freak.gif
where is that level 3 boomerang located ??????
where is located ? thought was here as previous post indicated ..II a little help here please ...?

#1109 pixcalibur

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

QUOTE(vravelo @ Nov 30 2012, 07:26 AM) View Post

mmm...! I was wrong afterall,~
on this started new game, I manged to get two stone relics and went down there on the construction -swamp!
after making to the room and opening the trunk ....? -- same thing -blue boomer or level 2 boomerang no level 3 at all icon_freak.gif
where is that level 3 boomerang located ??????
where is located ? thought was here as previous post indicated ..II a little help here please ...?



Hmm, should be in the lower left corner of B-3. I'm currently playing through it, no problems finding L3 boomerang unless some of the more recent updates actually took out the L3 boomerang and moved it somewhere else.

Odd because the game already gave you a L2 boomerang in a chest early on, so not sure why there would be another chest with the same thing.

#1110 ShadowTiger

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

The L3 Boomerang is the one that looks like a circle, and can stun bubbles and darknuts and wizzrobes and ... almost anything. That's the one that's in the chest in the lower left corner of the bottom floor of the Excavation. The L2 (Blue!) Boomerang wouldn't be in that chest, and it wouldn't turn into the L2 Boomerang somehow. That's impossible.

Death's Domain is that new dungeon you're talking about, vravelo. I don't know what I'll be doing with it, but it'll be very interesting to work with, that's for certain. It is a HIGH LEVEL DUNGEON! It will be HARD. But the reward will be worth it, oh yes. (Especially once I figure out what that is. icon_heh.gif )

A lot of interesting bugs to work with, I see. It'll be a little while before I can fix 'em. Though some of the smaller ones are fixed, yes. Thanks very much again for those.

Also, you're all in the credits for the quest. icon_biggrin.gif Really, thanks so much for the bug reports. Truly. It's not my quest, but I do appreciate the effort and patience you're all exhibiting.




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