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[coolgamer012345]

Before upgrading to Windows 10, make sure you have a User Account that is NOT associated with a Microsoft account, create one if you don't have one. This is because Windows 10 requires an online connection to authenticate User Accounts associated with a Microsoft Account and wouldn't you know it? The Windows 10 upgrade can REMOVE your Network Card drivers!

 

More details here: https://social.techn...win10itprosetup

 

I've downgraded back to 8.1 and will wait for Microsoft to sort themselves out.

A user account with what?

Edited by Coolgamer012345, 29 July 2015 - 08:48 PM.

[Nicholas Steel]

A user account with what?

Preferably an administrator account. You know? The one you sign in to Windows with, just don't associate it with a Microsoft Account while creating it.

Edited by Nicholas Steel, 29 July 2015 - 09:01 PM.

[coolgamer012345]

Preferably an administrator account. You know? The one you sign in to Windows with, just don't associate it with a Microsoft Account while creating it.

Well, shit, I think I kinda... did that when I was setting up this PC which had windows 8.

 

I already have Windows 10 installed, so would I have to downgrade back to 8.1 to make another Admin account?

 

So, I changed my account to a local account, not tied to my Microsoft one, so hopefully that helps.

Edited by Coolgamer012345, 29 July 2015 - 11:48 PM.

[HavoX]

Sorry for not doing the more specific quote with notifications, but this popped up while I was typing that big long post.

 

The Windows Update release is being done in waves. Even if you force the files to download (which I did), the finishing touches (mainly the boot.wim or whatever) have to be downloaded as a separate thing. I had at least 6-7 install fails in my Windows Update log before it finally let me do it almost 12 hours after I'd gotten the files. It's still crappy, of course.

 

If you want to skip that hassle, go for the Windows ISO link that was thrown out earlier. Just be sure to get the correct version and language for your system.

Well, I'm going to wait and try again another time. I won't do it today, and I probably won't do it next week (next month is going to be pretty busy for me! Oh boy ), but when Microsoft fixes a few kinks and all this shit has settled down, I figured maybe by then I'll be able to get this upgrade installed, even if it takes multiple tries and failed installations.

 

Thanks anyway, though.

Edited by HavoX, 30 July 2015 - 09:30 AM.

[Nicholas Steel]

Well, shit, I think I kinda... did that when I was setting up this PC which had windows 8.

 

I already have Windows 10 installed, so would I have to downgrade back to 8.1 to make another Admin account?

 

So, I changed my account to a local account, not tied to my Microsoft one, so hopefully that helps.

If you've already upgraded and can log in, then you don't need to worry about what I've suggested.

 

Edit: I see where your confusion stemmed from, I updated my original post on this topic to better clarify what I meant.

Edited by Nicholas Steel, 30 July 2015 - 12:07 PM.

[Demonlink]

BTW, a quick question guys. For those people who's computer model isn't supported by their manufacturer anymore, will it be a big deal if I use all of the latest drivers on my manufacturer's website? I have a Lenovo G475 that's already three years old and I read they won't be supporting this model. But, they do have Windows 8 drivers on their server. Just wondering if this is possible so I can perform a clean install.   

[Magi_Hero]

My experience with trying to install Win10 was an absolute nightmare.

The download took forever, the install preparation took even longer than I thought, and what do I get?
A failed installation. All this after forcing Windows Update to download my free upgrade? What a steaming pile of bollocks.
Guess I'm going to have to stick with 8.1 for a while...

The failed install was updates for me during the beta, in a nutshell. Two different laptops as well.

[Omega]

I will stick with 8.1 as well until we have most of the issues sorted. I am fine with 8.1 for now.

[Nicholas Steel]

Install the latest drivers before doing the upgrade, then upgrade. Unless there are Windows 10 drivers, updated drivers available on the manufacturers website or some devices have their drivers missing, don't reinstall/update any drivers.

 

I succeeded today in upgrading both our computers, my dads computer with an ASUS Sabertooth z87 Motherboard had no network connectivity until I installed the beta Windows 10 drivers from the ASUS website (Strange, considering Device Manager said the network card was fine). My computer, strangely, decided to retain a functioning network adapter after this 2nd upgrade attempt.

Edited by Nicholas Steel, 31 July 2015 - 12:34 PM.

[DCEnygma]

Took a couple of tries to actually update my Surface (probably because I was running on a spotty-at-best hotel WiFi connection), but it is now running Windows 10. I have done very little on it, but I do like how the start menu is simpler and I do not need to use the Metro UI. I was actually pleasantly surprised with how well the Win10 start menu worked with a touch screen, it's quick and simple.

 

I've tried using Cortana, but again, spotty hotel WiFi, so I'll give it a fair shake at home before passing any final judgements on that. That said, my experience at the hotel was pretty unhelpful. I need to know if there are some keywords or keyphrases that Cortana can use to voice-launch certain programs. I'd also like it if there was a quick keyboard command or app switch to turn her on or off (there might be, haven't really looked).

 

Hearthstone still runs well though, so I guess I'm still happy. Oddly enough, it seemed that the Surface ran quite a bit cooler when playing Hearthstone as well, (it can get a bit warm after a while with the fans running, nothing critical, but noticeable), so I'm not sure if that's coincidence or Win10-related.

 

I'll post more as I use it this week. Later this week I'll probably be ordering a new video card and will be giving Christina my GTX 660, at which point in time I'll install Windows 10 on her computer and reformat to make sure the new video card gets integrated well (and to clean up the system).

[KingPridenia]

I wish I would stop having Windows 10 FORCED upon me and shoved in my face. I hide the icon, just for it to change the setting from hiding it to showing it an hour later. Really? I don't want Windows 10; my aged computer is having enough problems just running Windows 7; it'll only be worse with Windows 10! That and I am getting sick of all the newer OS's being incompatible with older games. I don't want to get Windows 10 just to find out most of my games don't even work on it for whatever reason. Like with The Sims 1, it kept minimizing itself on me making it impossible to play. Some programs would just flat out crash, no matter what I made the compatibility settings. Maybe if I had a newer computer, I wouldn't mind it, but my laptop is over 5 years old and it's starting to run poorly with Windows 7. It won't be any better with a more demanding OS, that's for sure.

[TheLegend_njf]

So it looks like Windows 10 is already repeating the same mistakes as Windows 8. Lol

I'm not too surprised when this company thinks it is God and feels that they know best for the customer and force what they feel is best for the customer.

Forced updates.... Ugh! Fuck you Microsoft.

An update should feel like an update, something we should get excited for. Not a fucking obligation.

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 03 August 2015 - 08:44 AM.

[DCEnygma]

I wish I would stop having Windows 10 FORCED upon me and shoved in my face. I hide the icon, just for it to change the setting from hiding it to showing it an hour later. Really? I don't want Windows 10; my aged computer is having enough problems just running Windows 7; it'll only be worse with Windows 10! That and I am getting sick of all the newer OS's being incompatible with older games. I don't want to get Windows 10 just to find out most of my games don't even work on it for whatever reason. Like with The Sims 1, it kept minimizing itself on me making it impossible to play. Some programs would just flat out crash, no matter what I made the compatibility settings. Maybe if I had a newer computer, I wouldn't mind it, but my laptop is over 5 years old and it's starting to run poorly with Windows 7. It won't be any better with a more demanding OS, that's for sure.

 

Actually, by most accounts, Windows 10 runs better on many computers than Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 did. As far as compatability, a Google search for what you're concerned about will likely solve most of that. But some older games are built on older architecture, which yes, may cause issues. But architecture needs to be updated to be able to support new technology and better security, so it's a necessary thing. You can't move forward if you're only concerned about supporting everything you've done up to that point.

 

So it looks like Windows 10 is already repeating the same mistakes as Windows 8. Lol

I'm not too surprised when this company thinks it is God and feels that they know best for the customer and force what they feel is best for the customer.

Forced updates.... Ugh! Fuck you Microsoft.

An update should feel like an update, something we should get excited for. Not a fucking obligation.

 

I... don't follow this logic. At all. The forced updates are going to include numerous new features being added to the system, much like they've done with the Xbox One and they'll be pre-announcing most of them. Also this ensures you won't miss a critical update (for example a Service Pack) without which your system may be vulnerable. I'm really not sure why that's a big issue.

[Demonlink]

I... don't follow this logic. At all. The forced updates are going to include numerous new features being added to the system, much like they've done with the Xbox One and they'll be pre-announcing most of them. Also this ensures you won't miss a critical update (for example a Service Pack) without which your system may be vulnerable. I'm really not sure why that's a big issue.

One of my issues for the forced updates are driver updates. My PC is too old now for development on supported Windows 10 drivers by my manufacturer, so I have to stick with Windows 8 drivers instead.

Windows update pretty much screws up my PC performance by selecting the wrong driver updates. So, my point? While forced updates have their pros, the issues I mentioned above can be quite tedious and troublesome for most users with old PCs.

That said though, I use the tool HavoX posted a few posts above and turned off the Windows Update option to choose the best driver for my laptop as a solution. I am happy with 10 now.

[TheLegend_njf]

DCE is quite defensive over Windows 10. I suspect we have a fanboy. jk

 

All jokes aside, I just feel kinda disappointed. I really have high hopes for Windows 10 simply because I like things that are new and fresh, but not a royal pain too. I personally feel that people should be given the option to disable automatic updates.

 

I'm currently dealing with an issue now with automatic updates in my Windows 8. Windows won't restart properly when updating anymore, and I'm forced to force it to shut down. I'm terrified that my next update will be the update that ruins all the data on my hard drives. :/ Granted, I believe you can disable automatic updates on Windows 8, which is something I'm really soon going to look into. But I just hate the feeling that I need to stop everything I'm doing just because Windows wants to update, even though I'm aware they give me a fair warning, I just think it shouldn't be this way.