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#91 Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE(PowerGauntlets @ Sep 3 2011, 05:12 PM) View Post
And I'm not saying you have to like what I have to say. But I'm well within my boundaries to say that your perspective on it is, perhaps, a bit incomplete and that it would be worth your while to give it a second chance.

I have never seen any reason to avoid redeeming something in one's own mind. To go on disliking a series when there may be something out there that will redeem it for you a thousand-fold just seems absolutely pointless to me.

For example, I hate the Jonas Brothers to no end. But with that in mind, if they did a Jazz-Fusion album, I would give it a listen, and maybe even enjoy it. I have not resigned myself to the idea that anything I currently hate will remain that way. Hell, look at my profile. It used to be that I was the kid who heckled other kids for watching girly shows. And now, well, I guess the joke's on me.

So yeah. People seem to revel in their own perpetual dislike for stuff. But that's not for me. I like redemption.
What makes you think I haven't given it multiple chances? o.O I mean, I did say I didn't like it, and well, that could only be because I've actually given it a chance (and in this case, more than one too). There's no reason for you to get worked up about me not liking the show, because as you said, I don't have to like what you like. I mean, we do seem to have a few differences in taste anyway, wouldn't you say? icon_razz.gif


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:01 AM

Well then, I must ask which Doctors you saw. I highly doubt you watched an entire arc from all of them... icon_confused.gif Like I said earlier, there are some doctors where if you start with them, it will be inevitable that you think the series is lame. Now, if you started with say, Tom Baker or David Tennant, then...I guess that's a pretty complete opinion, since they were pretty much undeniably the two best doctors in the series. But I very much doubt that you did.

Edited by PowerGauntlets, 03 September 2011 - 11:05 AM.


#93 Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE(PowerGauntlets @ Sep 3 2011, 06:01 PM) View Post
Well then, I must ask which Doctors you saw. I highly doubt you watched an entire arc from all of them... icon_confused.gif Like I said earlier, there are some doctors where if you start with them, it will be inevitable that you think the series is lame. Now, if you started with say, Tom Baker or David Tennant, then...I guess that's a pretty complete opinion, since they were pretty much undeniably the two best doctors in the series. But I very much doubt that you did.
I lived with a guy for about a year and a half, who happened to be the biggest Doctor Who-fan, so I'm pretty sure I've seen a good load of most of it. Not always willingly but you know how guys can be, they like hogging the TV >_<

Edit: We can lay this to rest now though. It's pointless to go on about it PG, if it really bothers you that much shoot me a PM but I guarantee you I won't change my mind icon_razz.gif

Also I hope you're not seriously expecting me to remember the names of the characters/actors in a show that I cannot stand icon_razz.gif (Protip: I can't)


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:12 AM

Oooof. Okay, yeah, if I had to live with that, I'd probably hate the series, too. As a matter of fact, that very circumstance is probably why I'm not able to enjoy Next Trek...

But it doesn't change the fact that hate is pointless. If you don't like it, don't give it a place on your list.

Edited by PowerGauntlets, 03 September 2011 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:38 AM

Anything Sci-fi

With very few exceptions such as Fallout or Half-Life, I'm not a huge fan of sci-fi. I'm not into those games/movies that take place in outer space where you must eliminate an alien colony or TAKE ALL YOUR BASE!!! Don't let me get started with Star Wars and all of that. I just don't understand how anything that takes place in space is so exciting. icon_unsettled.gif This is probably the only thing you're going to find if you're a PC gamer. I've yet to see PC games have variety.





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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:07 PM

MMORPGs- Back when Runescape was new, I played it for 2 days, realized I didn't like it and never played it again. I will never play WoW.

Rap- rap requires very little musical talent. (I've heard rapping to a freaking metronome.) Hip Hop is alright, though.

TV- Other than the occasional Movie on TV or Mythbusters, I'd rather not waste my time- I'd prefer to go on Hulu or Netflix.

Facebook- I spend some time on Facebook, maybe make a post or two. I will not waste my time with the games on Facebook. (no offense to Wild Bill here icon_razz.gif)

Avatar (blue people)- Only good for the 3D. The story was terrible.

3D- Just something to make movies/games more expensive for no real reason.

Motion Sensitivity- Meh. It really is overrated. Tilting controls are okay, but other than that, it's more an inconvenience than a cool feature. The wiimote, for instance, is good for the pointer but not much else.

The iPad- seriously, just get a laptop.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:08 PM

I also wonder wether there are entire forums dedicated to this thread's purpose. I actually quite wow-ed about a thread that's specifically ment for people to complain about things they don't like. A forum about things you don't like would be a funny thing. You know, people would sign up just to complain about stuff.

#98 Fabbrizio

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE(Sheik91 @ Sep 3 2011, 12:08 PM) View Post
I also wonder wether there are entire forums dedicated to this thread's purpose. I actually quite wow-ed about a thread that's specifically ment for people to complain about things they don't like. A forum about things you don't like would be a funny thing. You know, people would sign up just to complain about stuff.
Sheik, meet 4chan. It's a world of broken people who only know how to argue. Anyone with any semblance of hope for their future will be alienated there, and eventually forced to leave.

#99 Alestance

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE(Timothy McCorgi @ Sep 2 2011, 09:45 PM) View Post

Don't ever start a sentence with "these days". It's just another way of saying: I am ignorant of this topic, so I will write it off without further examination and pretend to have a strong opinion.


I hate this, mostly because when I say "These days" I actually mean it, when I talk about a topic and mention "These days" it means that I have not, and most likely never will find something on the specific topic that I mention.

Although, I NEVER generalize topics. For example, "These days, I can never find a good Sonic the Hedgehog game! They don't make them like they used to! (Adventure 2, and all 4 of the first Genesis Sonic games + Spinball)"

OR "These days, Nintendo seems to be trying to take Zelda in a different, and possibly wrong direction. I know I don't plan on buying Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass, or Spirit Tracks! And don't get me started on Windwaker, It was fun at first, I admit... THEN THOSE FREAKING TRIFORCE CHARTS EARRRRRRGHHHH!"

Although I agree with this quote in most situations, I WILL start a sentence with "These Days" and your argument is invalid. icon_razz.gif

#100 Fabbrizio

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Alestance @ Sep 3 2011, 02:53 PM) View Post

I hate this, mostly because when I say "These days" I actually mean it, when I talk about a topic and mention "These days" it means that I have not, and most likely never will find something on the specific topic that I mention.

Although, I NEVER generalize topics. For example, "These days, I can never find a good Sonic the Hedgehog game! They don't make them like they used to! (Adventure 2, and all 4 of the first Genesis Sonic games + Spinball)"

OR "These days, Nintendo seems to be trying to take Zelda in a different, and possibly wrong direction. I know I don't plan on buying Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass, or Spirit Tracks! And don't get me started on Windwaker, It was fun at first, I admit... THEN THOSE FREAKING TRIFORCE CHARTS EARRRRRRGHHHH!"

Although I agree with this quote in most situations, I WILL start a sentence with "These Days" and your argument is invalid. icon_razz.gif

Lemon/Timmy has a good point, though, maybe not pertaining to you but to the tendencies of people in general: "these days" has become nothing more than saying "back in the good old days" in an negative manner. It also implies a sort of pessimistic viewpoint on the topic, as though you don't think it will ever return to it's former quality.

Again, not saying that's how YOU use it, but it does seem to be the popular way to use it these days. *RUNS*

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:22 PM

When I say "these days" I mean that right now, today, and for several months MINIMUM you can still go
out your front door and experience this. That's all. Period.

As for Star Trek it's all about the characters. Sometimes the sci-fi concepts are interesting, sometimes
they are not. It doesn't help that the show is an hour, and the concept doesn't always have enough
content for that long of a show, so that it drags out the plot. X-Files is EXACTLY the same way.

The only thing I dislike about Star Trek is how the movies usually have the same old plot twists.
How many times does the captain have to wreck the Enterprise to save the day?

And what's the point of posting that you dislike the thread? You don't have to like it, or post in it...

Edited by Cukeman, 03 September 2011 - 03:23 PM.


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE(PowerGauntlets @ Sep 3 2011, 12:22 PM) View Post

Sheik, meet 4chan. It's a world of broken people who only know how to argue. Anyone with any semblance of hope for their future will be alienated there, and eventually forced to leave.



Hey man, 4chan has a use! A good laugh when people get angry and the littlest things.

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Obviously, this thread is deemed popular because 7 pages in 2 days, so
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Edited by Vaelstrom, 03 September 2011 - 04:17 PM.


#103 Ben

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

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Fanboyism is not a reasonable thing to hate; they're not hurting you.

Yes it is, and yes they are, and here's why: it's frustrating and it's also somewhat depressing.

<large corporation x> does not need you to defend them; if you actually feel the need to defend it against a specious or uninformed criticism instead of flatly explaining your affiliation, then you are the one with the closed mind. If it ever reaches the point where someone makes a negative comment about them and you yourself feel offended, then that is your problem -- don't make it into ours. We don't like it being shoved down our throats at every opportunity. Also, you're playing right into the hands of some organization somewhere; they don't care about you, they usually only care about your money being in their account at the end of the day.

This brings me to complaining about things when you don't actually know enough about it to have an educated opinion (I'm not perfect, so I may have done this myself on a few occasions.)

Formulate your own opinion from your own experience. Don't judge something/someone simply from hearsay or (God forbid) an advertisement. Reviews of things are good and all, but there's no better judge of what you would like than yourself. General opinion is only a way to measure how other people like something, and is not a 100% accurate methodology to predict how much you'd like something. Researching something is not all that hard when Google is most likely right up there in your toolbar. This includes examples such as complaining about Apple/Google/Amazon/HTC/Samsung devices when you've never touched/seen/researched one, complaining about game/game console Y when you don't own it, and listening to political commentators and adopting their opinions, among other things.

Of course, if you like Call of Duty, I think you have other problems.

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Edited by Bagel, 03 September 2011 - 06:08 PM.


#104 Fabbrizio

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 06:00 PM

My point was that you can just ignore fanboys. You don't have to listen to them. If you so choose, you can treat them as white noise.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 06:15 PM

It's not always as easy to ignore people just like that. Look at your postbit for an example -- with signatures and avatars on, there are four references to ponies. What if I rrreeeealllly HATED ponies? I could just ignore you as the solution, then, right?

Suddenly there'd be fewer ponies, but it'd also be harder to follow a thread if people are responding to things you've said or issues you've brought up to discuss that I can't see.

"But Bagel," you respond, indignantly, wondering why you're talking to the computer screen. "Couldn't you infer the context from the other participants in the conversation?"

Sometimes. But it's easier and wastes less time to communicate with people who can communicate back. Your above post was basically "DEAL WITH IT" icon_cool.gif ... and that's not really ideal in every setting.

Edited by Bagel, 03 September 2011 - 06:17 PM.



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