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#901 Mitchfork

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 04:50 PM

Or you are really Dr. Who. This one looks pretty decent... SHOOP DA WOOP.

#902 Mr. Z

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 05:57 AM

Tournament Mode. Whee... icon_sleep.gif
I am still demanding new stages.

#903 lucas92

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:53 AM

32 friends wich have a Wii and SuperSmash Bros Brawl! lol

#904 NoeL

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(NekoArc @ Sep 27 2007, 01:33 PM) View Post

A buddy of mine has an interesting discussion for online tournaments going on...
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So... should we start a separate thread for tournament stuff? I'm going try hard as hell to try to get an internet connection, a Wii and SSBB; but I can at least play against a few of my buddies even if I can't get a connection.

icon_sweat.gif Am I the only one who found that to be way too over-the-top complicated?

I think one tournament which is 1-on-1, stock 3, Final Destination, no items, as a tourny of pure skill.

A second tournament could have a random stage, random items, random appearance rate, with a set number of opponents (which may or not vary over the course of the tournament). I think first round should be a 7 minute 4 player battle where the 3 losers are eliminated, then a 5 minute 3 player battle, then a 3 stock 1-on-1 for the final... that's 24 contestants by my math... although it wouldn't be particularly fun because 18 of 24 would be knocked out in the first round icon_confused.gif

I think just a round robin where you get 1 point for every win, then "finals season"... just like any sporting event.

EDIT: Oh, and character/item/stage bans are crap, you'll turn the game into Yugioh icon_sweat.gif Every time someone comes up with an awesome way to use the cards, those cards get banned for tournament play. It's ridiculous. Just out of interest though, why were Fox/Falco banned?

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 09:54 AM

well, in Melee, a lot of people thought Fox was WAY overpowered, like he shouldn't be that fast AND powerful sort of thing.

I personally didn't like his fighting style.

And also, on the theme of making a tournament here, would we be able to have the tourneys earler than the DS day times were aranged? Although I apprecate that the vast majority of people here are american, I couldn't play due to the times arranged.

Or would something like seperate tourneys for tose who Can play earlier and those who can't?


#906 Radien

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 10:05 AM

So... Fox in Melee is overpowered. So what? icon_shrug.gif The game as a whole is not the most balanced one on the face of the planet, but people could play it from here until doomsday because it's FUN.

Being a Soul Calibur player, I enjoy having a game that is very balanced (most Soul Calibur games are). In the Soul Calibur series, the only reason to ban a character is if the character is not available in all versions of the game. After all, you can't fight against a character if you don't know what his/her moves are!

Smash Bros Melee doesn't have console-exclusive characters OR the multi-platform issue (since it doesn't even have an arcade version), so the character balance is served "as-is." Banning Fox means punishing the players who only play him because they like Starfox, and they may not have a suitable backup character. That's not necessarily their fault, and I really don't think it's worth the bad blood. icon_shrug.gif

Anyway, I hope Brawl is more balanced, but it might not be. That doesn't mean it can't be fun... it just means that people will need to take it less seriously. Play who you like, and don't expect to win everytime, but be happy when you do win.

...If the win list starts to get redundant, then turn the Bo-bomb frequency to "VERY HIGH." icon_blah.gif


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I think one tournament which is 1-on-1, stock 3, Final Destination, no items, as a tourny of pure skill.

Meh, that sounds boring. icon_razz.gif I can understand using no items, and 1-on-1 sounds fair, and the scoring method barely matters in 1-on-1... but there are plenty of fair stages that are far more interesting than Final Destination. Even Battlefield (or whatever it's called) is fair, yet more interesting.

But in the end, I'll take "interesting" over fair any day, for Smash Bros. At one convention tournament, I saw a round where the tournament official turned off all items except for Mr. Saturn, and turned the frequency "VERY HIGH." That was frickin' hilarious. icon_xd.gif

#907 NoeL

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 11:52 AM

you know what would be awesome... if the home run bat ricocheted items. I remember trying to play baseball with a green shell on the 64, but it wasn't happening. I think it'd be so much fun, someone pitches the shell, someone beats it then tries to get to the other end of the stage, while the other three have to stop the shell and peg it at the runner. One run for each lap they make without getting hit icon_razz.gif

#908 The Satellite

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 03:51 PM

I loved doing tournaments in Melee. Before my sister started playing it, I'd play them against multiple CPUs. I did a 64-man tournament once, and just skipped everything. I'm glad it returned. Tournaments are so freakin' fun. icon_biggrin.gif

#909 Animus01

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 04:07 PM

I'd like to know two things about this mode:

1) Does it fix the problem with controllers? If you wanted to do a 4-player tournament, you needed 3 controllers in Melee. I hope that problem is fixed.

2) Is it online? It probably isn't, but it may help PureZC's tourneys go by quicker and easier.

#910 The Satellite

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 04:13 PM

Ooh ooh, online tournament would be awesome!!! icon_w00t.gif

Another thing I want to see fixed is Player 1 not having to be a different controller when you enter a tourney.

For example, in Melee, I start a tournament, two people per battle. I'm Player 1. In some battles, I'd have to use Controller 2. Stupid. icon_sweat.gif

#911 Mitchfork

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE(NoeL @ Sep 28 2007, 08:28 AM) View Post

icon_sweat.gif Am I the only one who found that to be way too over-the-top complicated?

I think one tournament which is 1-on-1, stock 3, Final Destination, no items, as a tourny of pure skill.
Eh. Final Destination is okay, but 64 Dream Land... man, I love that stage. The thing with Final Destination is that it benefits ground fighters over aerial fighters, whereas Battlfield-styled stages are very balanced. 4-stock with 8-minute time also seems to be the touney standard, although I can't fathom why. 5-stock seems like it would make more sense.

#912 Mr. Z

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 02:12 AM

Newcomer, Lucas from Mother 3. Is he a Ness clone? I suuuuure hope not. D:
Also, he needs to be better than Ness, 'cause I never liked him.
He got introduced before Ness was even confirmed o_O, maybe he'll replace him... ... Nah!

Edited by Mr. Z, 01 October 2007 - 02:40 AM.


#913 soundlyParanoid

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 02:26 AM

I am.. I am well.. I am, suffice to say, Giddy about this update. With Mother 3 getting as much screentime as it is in SSBB I'm getting more hopeful each day.

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... oh god I can't stop dancing. ... This update rocks.. to a Mother fanboy, at least.

#914 Moldorm

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 02:34 AM

If Ness won'r be in Brawl,I'll hit myself in the head very hard with trombone.

#915 Animus01

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:40 AM

Ahh, a Mother 3 character! *wishes Mother 3 were released in the states*

I haven't played Mother 3, so I don't know Lucas's moves. It looks like Ness has a sparring partner, now, though! icon_biggrin.gif


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