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[newstarshipsmell]

M35 S4C: Pos. 59 is an unhappy Dash Jets 2 choke-point. You can easily go through it leftwards, to head over to the 200-mineral in S3F, but getting back through it rightwards is probably F6-inducing.

 

Virgo 02: Hidden door could use in-wall tiles.

 

Virgo 34: The lower-right magnet block remains permanently destroyed, and explodes when you return to the room. Not entirely sure why this is here since it's a short cut to the Stomp Boots, but you can reach them the normal way with the Grabber.

Edited by newstarshipsmell, 06 November 2015 - 08:32 AM.

[newstarshipsmell]

I haven't been cheating, but I've managed to pick up enough Heart Containers to roll over my HP counter. So at 464 Max HP, it counts up to ... 459, 460, 1, 2, 3, 4.

 

LOL, a cosmetic consequence of the Yes/No menus:

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If you have the Zodiac Changer equipped on A and your Zodiac Weapon on B, and revisit a ZW interface, it appears to give you the next ZW in the sequence, since pressing A/Yes triggers the interface and the changer in quick succession.

 

The second Aries corridor has ice volcanoes that scroll downwards faster than the background graphic, so it looks awful and like they're flying above the ground rather than sitting on it.

Edited by newstarshipsmell, 21 November 2015 - 10:19 PM.

[Gendof]

This is a fabulous game!

I have spent a zillion hours getting killed and progressing slowly.

I think our little Guardian robot would be unlikely not to have a mapping function included in her software.  At least that's my rationale for suggesting that maps be incorporated, it's hard enough without having to stop and fill out my templates on paper.

Also, one very minor quip, the terminals look like prehistoric computers with CRT monitors.

 

Great game!

I'm looking forward to its formal release and the concurrent Help thread here,

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[MaximumCDawg]

Ideally, you won't need to consult a Help thread.  NewStarShipSmell and I have been working on a strategy guide / walkthrough that will be distributed with the final version of the game.  He did some AMAZING maps and I'm slowly chugging out sketches to fill up the white space.  It should be pretty comprehensive once it's done.

[newstarshipsmell]

Damn, MeleeWizard's on the home stretch...

[MaximumCDawg]

We got at least a week; he's not gone to the final battle yet.

 

Sounds like a Christmas release date to me.  After my Thanksgiving hiatus, I'll get back to work on the manual / guide / fixes this week.

[ShadowTiger]

Kindly refresh my memory - What hints are there for the player to start on the alternate route? The remainder of my post shall be in a spoiler tag for obvious reasons.

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It's not that people shouldn't have to look for obscure secrets all the time, like the one that leads to fighting the General before taking on the Computer Core and getting the Wall Cling Boots.

It's that I'd like to know why the General is there above the Core and that we get to fight him for some reason. Why do we only fight him there? Why is that war machine of his only on the alternate path?

I feel like we should be fighting him at least once in the game outside of the alternate path. Although his boss mechanics depend on those magnetic blocks, though we don't need to be able to throw them for that battle the first time, so it wouldn't make a difference.

Basically what I want to know is, why is there a need at all for the player to find a secret route before fighting the core? Will the player know this before they get to the core? Or will they have to fight the general while already on the alternate path just to find out?

[newstarshipsmell]

Kindly refresh my memory - What hints are there for the player to start on the alternate route? The remainder of my post shall be in a spoiler tag for obvious reasons.

Well,

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I think the only hint the player actually gets is the empty slot in their inventory, which isn't going to be much help to a first time player, since they wouldn't see it until well after they've gained the WCBs and locked the alternate path off. So it only clues you in that there's something in the game you've overlooked - assuming that there's an actual item for that spot and it's not just an unused space.

The reason the General is up there is because he's manning the control room for the reactor. The original plan I think was that by taking out the control room, you bypass the need to take on the actual reactor, so beating the General would skip the Reactor fight. But in the final demo, Iron still shows up to defend it after you've beaten the General (even though he just dragged him off to the sick bay after the fight) and then the reactor is destroyed before you reach it. I dunno what he plans on doing with that - he said he wanted to change it so you still have to fight the core after beating the General.

The whole setup is similar to Cave Story's best ending, though... it's a lot less complicated and doesn't lead to a nigh-impossible final level. The best ending on that game... seriously, I doubt any but the chosen few would ever stumble upon it without the internet's help. I think he was angling for that sort of thing here, rather than making it fairly easy to discover.

The General's remarks to you about "choosing the alternate path instead" nearly breaks the fourth wall and I think indicates the game doesn't intend to work that hard to logically justify this stuff, heh.

Anyways, just in case you missed it in the LP and no one complained before, that final conversation with Dr. Mo has a typo about the bay being located in Aries (rather than Leo, where it is.)

Can't wait to watch MeleeWizard take on Viktor - I still have yet to beat him. I suppose I ought to fire up the demo over break and try again.

[ShadowTiger]

Anyways, just in case you missed it in the LP and no one complained before, that final conversation with Dr. Mo has a typo about the bay being located in Aries (rather than Leo, where it is.)

When I first read it, I thought that it was sort of (But not really) implied that it was in Leo as gotten through Aries, like where it left you off after getting the Super Missiles. It was a straight shoot right up from there to the end-game area.

[MaximumCDawg]

Can't wait to watch MeleeWizard take on Viktor - I still have yet to beat him. I suppose I ought to fire up the demo over break and try again.

 

Vicktor, huh?  Someone's been playing too much League of Legends!

 

Nah, I know I've been reticent about getting the final edits made, but it won't take me THAT long.  You should wait for the final release version, with the little hiccups that you and Melee discovered all smoothed out.

 

You are the best person to Lets Play the bonus material, though.  Think you can do the boss rush with 0 Energy Tanks?

[Deedee]

Could you possibly give a hint on how to get onto the alternate path? When should the player start looking?

[MaximumCDawg]

Well, nowhere, unless you are one of the two people with copies of the locked beta!

Never fear, though, the strategy guide will cover that.

[newstarshipsmell]

Vicktor, huh?  Someone's been playing too much League of Legends!
 
Nah, I know I've been reticent about getting the final edits made, but it won't take me THAT long.  You should wait for the final release version, with the little hiccups that you and Melee discovered all smoothed out.
 
You are the best person to Lets Play the bonus material, though.  Think you can do the boss rush with 0 Energy Tanks?

Heh, you know, I actually thought about LPing it myself. I even installed OBS and got it set up and tested it out. (I've never recorded anything like this before.)

But I figured it would be kinda boring to watch someone LP it who's played through a zillion times and knows where everything (or nearly everything?) is already.

Then I thought: what if I tried to beat the game without grabbing any items that aren't required to advance? Insane proposition? Probably. Entertaining to watch the attempt? Certainly.

[MaximumCDawg]

Wanna do hardmode?  I could give you the ultra-secret way to access it from the get-go, if you don't mind being shortcutted to the bonus you get after beating the game on the best ending AND beating both rushes.

[newstarshipsmell]

LOL, maybe. Have you begun squashing the final scurry of bugs? I posted some in this thread, some in the beta PM and some others I think in another PM to you, so make sure you review my messages as well as the thread when you put on your stomp boots.