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[Fiyaball]

Wasn't Link to the Past supposed to be Zelda 3? I've got some ancient Nintendo Power magazines laying around that described it as such while it was still in development.

It is. I have those issues too. It's like how SMW is SMB4. 

[Anarchy_Balsac]

Wasn't Link to the Past supposed to be Zelda 3? I've got some ancient Nintendo Power magazines laying around that described it as such while it was still in development.

 

No, it was more like Zelda 0,  Miyamoto  DID say that one time, but he has long since recanted.

[Moonbread]

So there's some new rumors on the grape vine, some good, some bad... So I'll go ahead and get the bad out of the way.

 

The Bad: Breath of the Wild is possibly delayed to the summer, due to a combination of localization and bugtesting, and a couple other things that are more speculation than hard fact.  Bugtesting is probably the biggest point, of course, being that this game is bigger than, well, I'm gonna go on a limb and say every single previous Zelda game combined.  And we all know how Nintendo likes to try to release games as bug free as possible.  I would also say that there's two other parts to this: this could also be due to the new version of Skyrim probably being a launch title, and Breath of the Wild could easily interfere with it selling, what with them both being massive adventure games.  It makes sense- you don't want to slight your third parties that you're trying to get on board.  The other thing is that the new 3D Mario is likely closer to completion.  The last traditional Mario game came out three years ago!  Suffice to say, that's been plenty of time to make a new mainline Mario title, and it would do well as a launch title just as well.  And Nintendo doesn't want to put all their eggs in one basket and release a massive new Mario and a massive new Zelda around the same time.  It doesn't make me happy, of course.

 

So yeah, a delay might make some of us want to murder everyone.  Myself included.  Let's talk about the good...

 

The Good: Breath of the Wild is likely more difficult of a game than we were shown at E3.  From what I'm hearing, Nintendo probably toned down the game's difficulty for the E3 demo so that people could enjoy exploring and wouldn't have to worry about the difficulty level as much, since it was, what, a 90 minute demo?  Having to start over from more than a couple game overs when you only have so much time to play it means people would be seeing less of the game, which is not good when the appeal of the game is how huge it is, and you have reviewers and journalists all over who are going to speak for people who weren't lucky enough to attend and see it in person.  The more of it they can talk about, the better.  Not every one of them is a Zelda expert like the rest of us.  Of course, I hope this goes beyond how much damage enemies deal, because making enemies' behaviors more dangerous is always more effective in that regard...

[DashSim]

remember back when we thought this game was going to come out in 2015

 

ha ha... ha...

Edited by DashSim, 18 November 2016 - 02:06 AM.

[Deedee]

Truth be told though, I don't really trust the leaks. They seem like one big group of friends who use each other as a source and don't actually have a source.

[DashSim]

remember back when we thought this game was going to come out

[thepsynergist]

When have Zelda games ever come out on time?

[TheLegend_njf]

Please stop.

Look, no one in this thread wants to debate Nintendo's ethics. No one wants to talk about the merits of Nintendo's business decisions and whether or not they were good ones. We just want to talk about a game that's coming up, one that has many of us excited, and, sure, isn't free from criticism, but we just want to talk about the game. Please stop trying to force your anti-Nintendo rhetoric into every thread.

I'd like to think it's okay to criticize Nintendo in a thread about a Nintendo game where a decision they made about such a game is questionable. It's not anti-Nintendo rhetoric. It's criticism.

I just thought I would point that out.

remember back when we thought this game was going to come out in 2015

ha ha... ha...

It's funny that a game that was originally set to be released in 2015 cannot make a 2017 launch title for the switch. Whatever, missed opportunity for Nintendo, right? They're the ones who's gonna have to deal with the concequences of this mistake potentially affecting the Switch's sales and success.

[kurt91]

Well, this is supposed to be Skyrim levels of huge, right? As far as I know, Nintendo's never made a game like this before. I can imagine they announced the release date, and then realized just how long bug-testing was going to take. That would explain the initial delay that ended up making it a potential Switch title. The current delay would probably be that bug-testing still took longer than they thought, and they still need time for the last run-through to make sure everything works. Bethesda makes this style of game all the time, and look how buggy their games still turn out, even with all that experience and opportunity to tweak the engine they use between games.

 

My guess is that either Nintendo's going to decide "Holy hell, never again" and Breath of the Wild is the only game we get that's done to this extent, or they're going to save their engine and possibly make an occasional (albeit extremely rare) game with the current engine, much like how Bethesda used the same engine for Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas (Different studio, same engine), Skyrim, and I think that it was proven that despite their claims otherwise, Fallout 4's engine is just a further-modified version of the one they've always used.

 

Now imagine a Mario game that's this big...

Edited by kurt91, 18 November 2016 - 06:21 AM.

[thepsynergist]

Now imagine a Mario game that's this big...

 

Super Mario RPG: Thousand and One Star-Filled Nights.

[Deedee]

Like, why are we trusting these leaks? They got female Link wrong, what credibility do they have?

[Shane]

Yeah, I'm definitely skeptical about this too. I'll just wait until Nintendo gives the word. If it happens, well... consider my excitement of getting the Switch at launch to be completely gone.

[Nicholas Steel]

Well, this is supposed to be Skyrim levels of huge, right? As far as I know, Nintendo's never made a game like this before. I can imagine they announced the release date, and then realized just how long bug-testing was going to take. That would explain the initial delay that ended up making it a potential Switch title. The current delay would probably be that bug-testing still took longer than they thought, and they still need time for the last run-through to make sure everything works. Bethesda makes this style of game all the time, and look how buggy their games still turn out, even with all that experience and opportunity to tweak the engine they use between games.

Bethesda testing their games? hahaha, what dimension did you come from!? At best they DO do a bug test but the upper management funnels all the feedback and bug reports away from the devs to ensure they keep to the deadline. Have you not seen the change logs for the unofficial patches to each of their games? Or played their games without any mods? Or seen how quickly the community manages to fix hundreds of issues with the game while bethesda hands out patches that fix at most a dozen issues (most of which are extremely minor issues/ignores meaningful issues).

Edited by Nicholas Steel, 18 November 2016 - 09:05 AM.

[Anarchy_Balsac]

When have Zelda games ever come out on time?

 

During the NES era and never since.

[Moonbread]

Like, why are we trusting these leaks? They got female Link wrong, what credibility do they have?

Oh no, they got one thing wrong!  They're clearly never credible!  (Fun fact: there has never been a single leaker/reporter who has ever gotten ANYTHING 100% correct.  Being wrong sometimes comes with the job.  Why should we trust any of them by that logic?  Also by that logic Emily Rogers correctly told us the date they'd show us the Switch, does the inverse mean that she's simultaneously the most credible person ever?)

 

Anyway, these people are journalists, not just "a group of friends", and they have been for years.  When you're in the industry that long, you get to know the right people.  What is called the grape vine is various rumors being passed around behind the scenes, not when your elementary school buddy says his uncle works at Nintendo and they're going to make Super Mario Bros vs TMNT.