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[Mr. Z]

There is already an update on the e-shop, which adds "conquest battle".

I have no idea what exactly it is (since the game isn't out yet today), but it's a game mode.

So there's still hope for downloadable content.

[Adem]

Spoiler

I wasn't going to put this in a spoiler but then I felt guilty!

 

Honestly, I'm disappointed in the roster. I was really hoping they'd pull a few last surprises before release. I really don't care about any of the new characters and, with the loss of Lucas, I've lost one of my two main characters.

 

SSB4: The game we should have known was a just little overhyped when they couldn't even be bothered to give it a subtitle that wasn't just the system name.

 

Also, no Tales recognition is still for shame. Tales of Symphonia was rated 107th on "Top Nintendo Games Ever" by Nintendo Power in 2009. IGN placed it 75th on the Top 100 Games list. I mean, I get it. Clearly it's not the highest ranking game of all time, but it's higher ranked than a lot of other games that have gotten Smash recognition. Golden Sun is the only game above it that makes sense for Smash Bros. and, while it sucks they still haven't acknowledged that to a great extent, at least it got a nod in Brawl. Poop!

[Mr. Z]

Just downloaded the complete Japanese game. Time to get smashin'!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a Shulk to main.

[Moonbread]

Spoiler

I wasn't going to put this in a spoiler but then I felt guilty!

 

Honestly, I'm disappointed in the roster. I was really hoping they'd pull a few last surprises before release. I really don't care about any of the new characters and, with the loss of Lucas, I've lost one of my two main characters.

 

SSB4: The game we should have known was a just little overhyped when they couldn't even be bothered to give it a subtitle that wasn't just the system name.

 

Also, no Tales recognition is still for shame. Tales of Symphonia was rated 107th on "Top Nintendo Games Ever" by Nintendo Power in 2009. IGN placed it 75th on the Top 100 Games list. I mean, I get it. Clearly it's not the highest ranking game of all time, but it's higher ranked than a lot of other games that have gotten Smash recognition. Golden Sun is the only game above it that makes sense for Smash Bros. and, while it sucks they still haven't acknowledged that to a great extent, at least it got a nod in Brawl. Poop!

Spoiler

Yeah, it's not good enough just having Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man, Palutena, Rosalina, Mii Fighters, Robin, Pac-Man, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt Dog, Little Mac, Greninja, and Shulk all joining up.  Wow, how could it possibly have gotten people excited?  Even if you don't personally care for any of these characters, it's a little unfair to say it got too overhyped when so much got added that people really wanted.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I empathize with you, I realllllly wanted Isaac to be playable (he was my top pick aside from Palutena), and that didn't happen.  And I get that people wanted Lloyd/whoever from Tales.  But... the Tales of series is all over other consoles, too, which probably really hurt its chances.  The 3rd party characters like Pac-Man and Mega Man had a very strong presence on Nintendo from the start.

 

Also, as for the title...

 

Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS

Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS

Super Smash Bros 4 Wii U/3DS

[Aevin]

I have quite unexpectedly been overtaken by a crippling level of hype for Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings. Bowser Jr. fights in a Koopa clown car?! And has costumes for all the other Koopalings?! What level of genius is that?!  Even those who aren't fans of Jr. are bound to like one of them. I'm gonna play as Lemmy. He's got this energy and playfulness about him that's just adorable. I remember when I was a kid playing Super Mario world, I would recite the names of the Koopalings in the order they were fought, because I've always had this weird attachment to things that come in sets. I was so delighted when they made a return in NSMB Wii after being forgotten so long, and though I don't have a Wii U for Mario Kart 8, it's awesome that they're playable there, too. So happy to see these guys getting some love in more recent Nintendo games. I'm replaying Mario 3 and NSMB Wii to vent some of my enthusiasm!

[KEM64]

Spoiler

Disappointed that Dr. Mario and Dark Pit got in instead of Dixie Kong, Ridley, or Mewtwo? There's a rumor that might give them one last chance to get in:

http://wiiudaily.com...-and-3ds-rumor/

Again, it's a rumor, so don't get too excited just in case it doesn't happen.

 

http://www.gonintend...story&id=237216

 

Meanwhile, in unspoiling news, it's been revealed that you can't post on Miiverse while playing Smash 3DS because apparently, the 3DS can't handle both running at the same time (The New 3DS can however, which I'm sure is not going to go over well with some people). I'm extremely disappointed by this news because I had quite a few posts thought up that I was looking forward to posting on Miiverse, but I can't do it now).

Edited by KEM64, 12 September 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[Avaro]

http://www.gonintend...story&id=237216
 
Meanwhile, in unspoiling news, it's been revealed that you can't post on Miiverse while playing Smash 3DS because apparently, the 3DS can't handle both running at the same time (The New 3DS can however, making it feel like a cheap way to force people to get the New 3DS). I find this news really lame (I had a quite a few posts thought up that I was looking forward to posting, but now I can't do it. Thanks, Nintendo for giving me one less major reason to be excited for the game).

Well I think that's sad, but it isn't going to make me buy the New 3DS or NOT buy Smash Bros for the 3DS. The game's performance seems like it's going to be impressive, with 3D and 60 FPS confirmed.
Btw, you cannot post screenshots in the Pokemon X/Y forum either, but for a different reason I think.

[thepsynergist]

Well, it's been announced that a demo for US players has been released for select Club Nintendo platinum members.  You get 4 codes so they encourage sharing with friends.  If anyone got one and would like to share, I'd be more than willing to trade to make a song for someone's game or quest.

[Adem]

Spoiler

Yeah, it's not good enough just having Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man, Palutena, Rosalina, Mii Fighters, Robin, Pac-Man, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt Dog, Little Mac, Greninja, and Shulk all joining up.  Wow, how could it possibly have gotten people excited?  Even if you don't personally care for any of these characters, it's a little unfair to say it got too overhyped when so much got added that people really wanted.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I empathize with you, I realllllly wanted Isaac to be playable (he was my top pick aside from Palutena), and that didn't happen.  And I get that people wanted Lloyd/whoever from Tales.  But... the Tales of series is all over other consoles, too, which probably really hurt its chances.  The 3rd party characters like Pac-Man and Mega Man had a very strong presence on Nintendo from the start.

 

Also, as for the title...

 

Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS

Super Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS

Super Smash Bros 4 Wii U/3DS

Spoiler

Hm. I guess my post was worded a little poorly.

 

I totally get that Mega Man, Palutena, Pac-Man, and all of those characters are a big deal for some people and I don't mean to disrespect that in anyway. And I am excited about them. I just don't feel as invested as I did like when the new fighters were released for Brawl. It feels like a really great sundae but it's missing a cherry. I get that some would disagree, but that's the consensus my friends and I have reached.

 

It's not that the other characters aren't interesting or exciting, but "4" seems to have fallen just a little short of its predecessor. And having characters like Lucas and especially Ice Climbers eliminated is rather disappointing.

 

The Tales rant wasn't intended to be taken very seriously. While I meant what I said to an extent, it was literally me wagging my finger in the air about not getting what I want.

 

I apologize if I came off a little snooty. Wasn't my intention!

[Jared]

Got the demo from the lovely Nate.

 

Villager feels....very different than I expected. He'll take some getting used to. Pikachu feels nerfed; I have a feeling I won't use him as much as I did in Brawl. Link feels fantastic, and I love his starting four color options (As we only get 4 colors in the demo). I'll definitely be using him more. Mario feels the same. And Megaman? He's alright. I expected better. He'll take some getting used to as well.

 

So excited for October 3rd!!

[The Satellite]

Apparently to get the codes, you had to have opted into Nintendo's marketing emails, which I was not. Kind of stupid, but no codes for me I guess. Pretty annoyed, but at least the public demo releases same day as my birthday?

 

EDIT: Whoo, managed to snag a code courtesy of mrz84 at AGN. Getting used to these controls, but so far it feels pretty solid.

[HylianGlaceon]

So I got the email from club nintendo for this. I don't really like the button setup and wish the option to change it was in this.

 

So testing out each character:

Megaman: Megaman feels very...awkward. His aerials all seem pretty junky apart from Fair and Bair. Recovery is okay, other special moves don't seem to be too useful. His ground based moves seem much better still.

 

Link: Still slow and sluggish. Nair and Bair sped up. Recovery slightly better but still bad in my opinion. New dash attack kinda sucks too. The old one seemed faster to me and had less ending lag.

 

Mario: Seems nerfed. Recovery has less reach than Link's slightly and a few of his attacks seem slower.

 

Pikachu: Heavily nerfed. Speed and physics of moves seem the same, but they do quite a bit less damage and have a much harder time of getting a KO.

 

Villager: OP. Wow, way OP. Two great recoveries, really good aerials, a down smash that puts you in a pit and an overpowered side smash to combine it with? Hi Meta Knight 2.0... So much for balance..

[Jared]

So I got the email from club nintendo for this. I don't really like the button setup and wish the option to change it was in this.

 

So testing out each character:

Megaman: Megaman feels very...awkward. His aerials all seem pretty junky apart from Fair and Bair. Recovery is okay, other special moves don't seem to be too useful. His ground based moves seem much better still.

 

Link: Still slow and sluggish. Nair and Bair sped up. Recovery slightly better but still bad in my opinion. New dash attack kinda sucks too. The old one seemed faster to me and had less ending lag.

 

Mario: Seems nerfed. Recovery has less reach than Link's slightly and a few of his attacks seem slower.

 

Pikachu: Heavily nerfed. Speed and physics of moves seem the same, but they do quite a bit less damage and have a much harder time of getting a KO.

 

Villager: OP. Wow, way OP. Two great recoveries, really good aerials, a down smash that puts you in a pit and an overpowered side smash to combine it with? Hi Meta Knight 2.0... So much for balance..

 

I feel that Link is actually faster. I love his new dash attack, it feels much more fluid than his Brawl and Melee ones.

 

Villager is OP? I don't really think so. It's hard to get his side smash to hit, because it lacks so much range. Their recoveries are great, though.

[HylianGlaceon]

I feel that Link is actually faster. I love his new dash attack, it feels much more fluid than his Brawl and Melee ones.

 

Villager is OP? I don't really think so. It's hard to get his side smash to hit, because it lacks so much range. Their recoveries are great, though.

 

If you hit with the Down smash, it's really easy to get it to hit afterwards. It KO's at a decent percentage from what I can tell too. His Fair is a bit unfair too since you can chase someone to the edge after hitting them off the platform, get a cheap KO with it and balloon your way back.

[Xenix]

I'll post my analysis of Link so far since I now can get a good look at his moves and how they function.
This was originally posted on my facebook:

His Dash Attack, while good when it hits, is INCREDIBLY predicable and is not safe. Sure, it's strong when it hits, but that's if your opponent doesn't shield it. And there is barely any shield stun anymore. I got grabbed out of it MID-move. Like, my friend was able to grab me while the move was still active.
His up-tilt has juggle potential, but it has high ending lag compared to the hitstun and power behind it. (Which isn't that great)
Oh, and speaking of his clawshot, I haven't tried this again yet, but I had Megaman do a down smash in front of me, so I tried to grab him when he missed. The clawshot touched him and nothing happened. This means that the hitbox for his grab is potentially too small.
Also, all of his attacks still have WAY too much ending lag considering the low reward each one gives until your opponent is at 130% or greater.
I just don't see Link having any luck against faster characters. I think he's just going to get shat on by most of the cast again.
Oh, and while I'm at it, his recovery is still bad. It has TERRIBLE horizontal momentum just like in Brawl. Trust me, that is a bad thing. It was one of the things that killed his recovery in Brawl.