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[TonyB17]

Believe it or not, I could not find the red ring, maybe the volcano is bugged too... but I could go and find the golden tunic, which is better. It is at the very bottom of the ruins, so try to getting it if you dare (or can, monsters there can be BRUTAL without the mirror shield... AND you need the fire boomerang to defeat them too, if you don't have the mirror shield, nevertheless don't give up, it's hard, but not impossible =P)

[ShadowTiger]

Whoah. That's a good point actually. The path to the Red Ring was bugged. Couldn't use the ladder to get there. Darn I hate that ladder toggle. x X.

Bug-Fix.

Here's how to get the Red Ring/Tunic:

Spoiler

From the first room of the Volcano, (After you bomb the lava-falls and enter.) go north, north, north, north, west, kill all the enemies then go south, bomb the cracks in the pipe and enter, then go one room south. You're done.

See? That was easy.

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I'm also currently attempting to add shortcuts to the Excavation, floors B-2 and B-3 that will trigger warps to either side of the entrance of F-1. I just wish they would actually work, is all. I guess I have to use Dmap tricks. Le'sigh.

Also made Windrobes and Mirror Robes slightly easier to deal with. They now have slightly more vulnerabilities. Also, the mirror robe was using Cset 9, which changes based on the Dmap's palette that you're in. Weird. I made it use Cset 8 instead. Looks fine. Also made it transparent because F^@# you, apparently. Dunno why that came to mind. Anyway, when I get the shortcuts up and running, new download.

Also making a map of the excavation in Photoshop. B-3 is almost done. Though I'm working my way up.

[TonyB17]

Hahahaha, that's what I thought, but as you said, the road with the ladder was bugged and I could not proceed... however I also thought that I had to get there some other way and that that would activate the ladder... It's not always that you cross the screen using a ladder =P, but you should really toggle it off in the screen where the volcano entrace appears, because you can get to the wind fish easily by using the same trick, enabling anything else related to that to be done before finishing the volcano =P

[ShadowTiger]

Oh, yes, I already did that I think, thank you. ^_^ Actually, I did some interesting layering tricks to make it look like there was ladderable lava there, but there's actually bounders underneath there that you can't ladder over, under the lava layer. Everywhere else is ladderable though.

[TonyB17]

That's great, I'll go and get the red suit (just because =P) and report anything else I find... and I'll post those marathon pics I haven't uploaded yet xD

Edit: Just exploring marathon to see if there where any changes... and... what?

Erm... I am... kinda... stuck with nothing o_O... this is weird xD (I can neither go forward nor backward, so I had to F6, this applies to marathon and it's F-1 variation)


Here I cannot proceed or see what is blocking me, lens of truth show nothing, it may be a problem with the layers, but I don't know...


Something weird happens here, if you walk back from the screen below you end up in marathon F-1 and cannot proceed to the screen up, but you can fix this by walking near the botton of the screen and magically return to just marathon...


So... I screwed up here didn't I? =P What was here by the way? Is there a fix? (I killed the aquamentus before getting the mirror shield, that was... bad... but getting there was even worse without the ms xD)

Edited by TonyB17, 19 July 2012 - 11:00 AM.

[SofaKing]

Holy crap does Enigma suck. The good news is that I got the relic, left, and now I have the gold ring, so my troubles from here on are going to be strictly puzzle-solving, not death.

I don't like having to look up this much though, plus this thread is awful to navigate at however many hundred posts it is.

[ShadowTiger]

832 posts, yeah, it does get kind of interesting. Well what is it that you need to know? Whenever I need to know something, I use the "Search Topic" button below the last post on any page of the topic. Brings up all the keywords.

Anyway, I'm playing through it and fixing any of the bugs that I find on my own, so the next release will be a lot smoother.

[SofaKing]

Nothing specific yet, I'm still slowly making progress. The madness that is Enigma is something else, that's all. This is way further than I've ever been in this quest. I can't imagine my final time should I make it all the way through. I know I'm well over 20 hours at this point.

[ShadowTiger]

Major Bug-fixes - Yep, got plenty.

The Crystal Mines boss should now work properly.
Dozens of graphics quirks are fixed.
It's now no longer possible to bypass the stairs in one of the entrances to the Crypt to get the key.
Fixed a bad warp in F-1 of the crypts where you pound a grave and there's a warp under it instead of dust.
Fixed a few enemy coloration errors, and adjusted a few stats.
The Red Candle now does four times as much damage. I might even give it some slashing sprites eventually. Considering how hard it is to find, it may as well be worth using.
The L3 Arrows now kill bubbles. This is not irreversible in case people protest, which is understandable. I think they block less powerful arrows now, considering that the only setting which allows this is "Block if less than 8 damage."
Many warps have been fixed.
Many walkability issues have been addressed.


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By the way, did anyone here have any issues with keys in Blester? I found (and count) 3 keys in the rain and snow outside of the tower, but I really can't seem to find any inside the tower. Yet there are four locked doors that take normal keys. Very bizarre.

[Joe]

Major Bug-fixes - -------------------

By the way, did anyone here have any issues with keys in Blester? I found (and count) 3 keys in the rain and snow outside of the tower, but I really can't seem to find any inside the tower. Yet there are four locked doors that take normal keys. Very bizarre.

There is a key in the caves north of the tower. You need the 2nd glove to enter the cave. So once you get the 2nd glove you have to exit the tower to get the 4th key.

Also I have some other issues that ... actually perhaps I will download your latest version and do some testing before I post any of my bugs. Sounds like a plan , huh? Shadow, thanks for your continued hard work.

Enjoy Life!

Thanks - Joe

P.S. On a side note, there is an extra key in the Train Station.

[ShadowTiger]

Interesting! I suppose it would be moot for me to ask where it is, because any of the keys could be the extra key.

Then again, the fact that you can actually buy a key from Subrosia and one other place makes this not really matter.

By the way, for anyone who did actually find Subrosia: What sort of difficulty did you have getting there? How obvious or unobvious was it?

[TonyB17]

I did not find it (I saw it's location in this topic hehe) but every time I have gone there the citizens don't talk when I enter homes... nor do they sell anything, they seem to be there just for show... I'll check with this new update if something changed =P

Edit: NEW bugs! YAY! =P


Here I cannot further push the block to return to the previous screen... it's blocked by the blue tile there, but the orange one doesn't block you, so... you have too f6



These 2 are examples where the spikes actually do nothing to you, so you can freely walk over them


The same, but in the excavation...


This piece of heart... I don't think it's possible to get it as of now... I tried everything, even trying to bounce the magic between tiles, but I was unsuccessfull... any tips? (the magic bouncer or whatever cannot be moved)


This is a weird graphical glitch, it shows bombs, but they do not flicker and it isn't a bombable wall...


Any tips for getting to those stairs? (I tried bombing the wall in the other side but it seems you're in a lower level and so the entrance is non existent... but I'm probably doing something wrong =P


Now ShadowTiger for your FAVORITE thing, YES, it is THAT thing! The LADDER TOGGLE! =D

I'm almost finished with marathon... I just need the boss key to get to the boss. Thank you for the bug exterminations ShadowTiger, we love you for that, because this is an awesome quest and you're awesome for putting up with all these nasty bugs that crawl everywhere here =)

Edited by TonyB17, 22 July 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[ShadowTiger]

Thanks much; my pleasure really. It's hard to deny that the quest deserve quite the spit-shine.

Also, those guys in Subrosia, ... I have no idea why they're not talking. They have a Guy and a String, and are in an Interior type Dmap. That should be all the criteria necessary for a string to play.

I'll do my best to fix these bugs before I leave on Tuesday. Marathon is definitely one area that I haven't really been looking at as seriously as I should. ._. It's ... ... huge. XD

[SofaKing]

Is there an item in Enigma besides the Book? Just want to make sure before I move onward.

[ShadowTiger]

There's a Heart Container Piece on the first floor. That looks like about it for those three maps, unless you count a Half Potion.