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[Mr. Z]

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RIP Wolf

RIP Lucas

RIP Ice Climbers

RIP Mewtwo

RIP possibility of getting Ridley

 

And an extra screw you to Sakurai for adding freakin Dark "3rd Kid Icarus rep" Pit and Dr. "another Mario character" Mario over any of the above.

 

Sakurai had better do DLC.

[HylianGlaceon]

Welp, the final roster is in.

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Lucas, Wolf, Ice Climbers and Snake are cut. That leaked character select seems to be 100% accurate, so there's a few more newcomers, but no Mewtwo or Ridley, for those hoping. Personally, I'm just mourning the Lucas cut. With characters like Lucina and Dark Pitt in, it just seems so unnecessary to cut the likes of Lucas and Wolf.

On one hand I'm disappointed, on another I feel I should've been expecting a roster like it. 

 

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Sakurai's bias was in Brawl too, I.e Subspace Emissary where Dedede and Kirby have to save all the other fighters. Meta Knight had a big part in the story too. Not to mention I think Kirby had the most chapters being playable through the first run. 

 

Oh well, there's always Smash 6 someday. Hopefully by then they can actually include everyone from previous games and add some characters that would be a big deal to have.

 

While I'm not big on certain characters being in from previous games (Ice Climbers), if they're in one game, they should still be brought back I feel.

 

At first I was going to be kind of annoyed, then after learning he was just a variation I was relieved. Nothing against Pikmin but I don't think it's popular enough to warrant another clone character.

 

Well, Pikmin is still probably more popular than Kid Icarus and we know how many characters it got. If Alph used different Pikmin from Pikmin 3, maybe it could work. In all honesty though, I don't want him as a character either.

[Aevin]

The roster has plenty of characters I'm interested in, but I feel for everyone who liked the cut characters. Regardless of how I feel about the characters personally, it's heartbreaking seeing people so upset over their favorites being yanked out of the game. The thing is, there's so few cuts that it seems totally feasible that they all could have been included.

[The Satellite]

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Holy shit, Brawl in the Family called it.

[Mr. Z]

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Holy shit, Brawl in the Family called it.

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Roy sure went out of shape during Brawl

[The Satellite]

There's one thing I'm noticing though: There are way too many starting fighters. I haven't been paying much attention between how much bigger the final roster is compared to the starting roster, but it doesn't seem like there are that many unlockable fighters, which is a little disappointing, I liked unlocking tons of fighters. Weird thing to complain about, maybe, but still.

[Mr. Z]

There's one thing I'm noticing though: There are way too many starting fighters. I haven't been paying much attention between how much bigger the final roster is compared to the starting roster, but it doesn't seem like there are that many unlockable fighters, which is a little disappointing, I liked unlocking tons of fighters. Weird thing to complain about, maybe, but still.

 

In my perfect case scenario only Mario would have started playable.

But yeah, I'd like to have had at least every newcomer unlockable as well. With so many characters playable right away it's hard to choose. (Luckily the demo let me play Megaman and Villager to death...)

[The Satellite]

Oh. Any word on a stage creator? 

[Russ]

I... ugh.

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I understand cutting characters, but... cutting Lucas for being a "clone" while adding Lucina, Dark Pit, and Dr. Mario? I can't understand the reasoning behind that. Wolf I don't mind seeing going (we have two other characters with almost the same movesets). Snake... I like him, but I can understand why he's not in, seeing as he's third party. Ice Climbers' exclusion baffles me. Eh. At least I still have Ness.

[Mr. Z]

Oh. Any word on a stage creator? 

 

Not on the 3DS, that's for sure, it's not anywhere in the menu. Maybe on the Wii U.

[The Satellite]

Ah, well that sucks.

 

Hopefully we'll get one in the Wii U version.

[Aevin]

I... ugh.

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I understand cutting characters, but... cutting Lucas for being a "clone" while adding Lucina, Dark Pit, and Dr. Mario? I can't understand the reasoning behind that. Wolf I don't mind seeing going (we have two other characters with almost the same movesets). Snake... I like him, but I can understand why he's not in, seeing as he's third party. Ice Climbers' exclusion baffles me. Eh. At least I still have Ness.

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I feel the same way. Lucas was a unique character both in moveset and personality, and offered more representation to an under-represented series. Incidentally, Ness does have Lucas's specials as custom moves, but ...  I just really wanted him to return. No Mother 3 trophies or anything else has appeared, either. As far as Smash 4 is concerned, it seems Mother 3 just doesn't exist.

[Shane]

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What I find funny is that we remove original characters because of the clone issues (that was the reason why most were cut, right? I don't follow much on these topics.), and replace them with actual clone characters. I'm kinda disappointed. I know I got all the characters I wanted, but I cannot help but feel bad that a lot of people didn't get to see their characters making it. Especially for potentially silly reasons.

 

Also I'm kinda saddened we got so many Mario characters compared to everything else. But that's just my bias against Mario showing more than anything else.

 

Edit: But then again, I know nothing about these clone characters other than they are... well, clone characters. You know what I mean. 

Edited by Shane, 11 September 2014 - 03:43 PM.

[Moonbread]

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I feel the same way. Lucas was a unique character both in moveset and personality, and offered more representation to an under-represented series. Incidentally, Ness does have Lucas's specials as custom moves, but ...  I just really wanted him to return. No Mother 3 trophies or anything else has appeared, either. As far as Smash 4 is concerned, it seems Mother 3 just doesn't exist.

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Just FYI, Dark Pit is also unique in personality (the opposite of Pit) and uses a staff rather than a bow, and considering Uprising had over 100 weapons, he may get some of those too rather than the Guardian Orbitars and the Upperdash Arm, so he may end up being more unique to Pit than Lucas was to Ness.  I mean, I'll miss Lucas too, because honestly, he was a lot better than Ness, and Mother representation is cool.  At least we got a new Mother stage that looks reallllllly awesome, though.

 

Also, considering Dr. Mario likely doesn't have FLUDD, he's instantly superior to Mario.   And they could possibly do a Dr. Luigi skin for him, like they're doing with Olimar/Alph and Bowser Jr/Koopalings.

 

In regards to the roster, yeah, why are so many starting off unlocked?  I would've preferred at least half the size it currently starts off as.   There was enough cut content with Sakurai not wanting to do a story/adventure mode...

[Mr. Z]

One thing is certain though:

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I'm going to enjoy the hell out of Duck Hunt dog's taunt

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QCbXCezNc