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[The Satellite]

Young Link may be a clone character, but I felt the difference was quite great. For instance, Link is a heavy, while Young Link is a light. Not medium. Light. He darts around like crazy.

Link is also a dang popular character. I'm sure Nintendo would consider changing him enough to keep him from being a clone. After all, Wind Waker Link DOES have a different sword style than TP Link.

(Oddly enough, in Wind Waker I like his regular combos more than I do in TP, though, something that basic might not be carried over to the Smash Bros. engine...)

Well... It's TP Link in brawl, but he's still using the SSBM mechanics, which means his style is screwed.

I didn't like the change to Wind Waker graphics, but Smash Bros. is supposed to be a celebration of what Nintendo is and was, not what it isn't. I can't see them creating a Young TP Link model just for SSBB. I can see them including a character that is a preview for an upcoming game, but if so, it'd still be a first for the series.

Still, OoT Young Link is cuuuuuuuuuute... ERR I MEAN awesome. I like that style. If they want a WW Link in the game, create a different one, I say.

[Radien]

Actually, they did this with Roy to promote the new FE game in America.

*reads up on that*

...Actually, your story checks out. Roy appeared in Melee (JP 2001) before his game was released (JP 2002). However, Melee was released before the Japanese release of Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword, as well as the American. If it had been released after the Japanese FE:TSS release, but before the American, I would have argued that the American promotion was an afterthought (or a "bonus" for marketing).

Young Link was PIMPIN'. SERIOUSLY. I loved him because he had all the versatility of Link, but in an easy to carry form. I don't know if WW Link would fit in with the rest of the croud, though... then again, they DID put Mr. Game & Watch in Melee. I guess we'll just have to wait for the game or another update to find out.

Originally thought you said "rest of the crud."

"Fit in?" Since when was "fitting in" any kind of priority of Smash Bros.? The entire game is based on unlikely crossovers. If all were right in the world of Smash Bros., Ganondorf wouldn't be taking on Pikachu.

Well... It's TP Link in brawl, but he's still using the SSBM mechanics, which means his style is screwed.

Melee's mechanics were still different from Ocarina of Time, you know. Downward Thrust is from Zelda 2. In short, what I'm saying is that these are all minor concerns.

Moonwhisper did point out that strangely, TP Link uses the OoT-design Master Sword. Still, there's no way you'd know that without looking at the concept art (or an extreme zoom), and in any case it might be updated later.

Also, Link's moves have in fact been updated for TP items. Mainly the Gale Boomerang, which now drags the enemy towards him somewhat. The clawshot now auto-aims, but that's more of an engine upgrade than it is a TP update. I'm hoping that the screenshot comment on Smashbros.com about Link's bow being "so fast" means that they're changing the bow mechanics, too.

Still, OoT Young Link is cuuuuuuuuuute... ERR I MEAN awesome. I like that style. If they want a WW Link in the game, create a different one, I say.

TWO Young Links?

Or do you want WW Link to be different from Young Link? If so, I think that's appropriate. However, they'll probably still call him "Young Link." Smash Bros. usually goes for simpler names when possible. After all, in Melee, regular Link wasn't "Adult Link" or "Ocarina of Time Link," he was just "Link."

I wasn't crazy about Young Link's design in OoT, so my fondness for him in Melee was due mostly to his fighting skillz.

[The Satellite]

Yeah, I mean a completely separate one. It could work.

[Mitchfork]

*reads up on that*

...Actually, your story checks out. Roy appeared in Melee (JP 2001) before his game was released (JP 2002). However, Melee was released before the Japanese release of Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword, as well as the American. If it had been released after the Japanese FE:TSS release, but before the American, I would have argued that the American promotion was an afterthought (or a "bonus" for marketing).

Hmm. I always thought it was just American. No matter. Marth rules the school.

Originally thought you said "rest of the crud."

"Fit in?" Since when was "fitting in" any kind of priority of Smash Bros.? The entire game is based on unlikely crossovers. If all were right in the world of Smash Bros., Ganondorf wouldn't be taking on Pikachu.

I was really talking graphics here... I mean, we have realistic shading on Mario, realistic shading on Pikachu, realistic shading on Ganondorf, ZOMG Celda!

[Radien]

Hmm. I always thought it was just American. No matter. Marth rules the school.

Marth may technically be the clone, since Roy is more basic and doesn't have ridiculously slippery traction, but Marth is so much more popular that I can't see them ever dropping him in favor of Roy. Basically, Marth is the B-side that became an A-side (to use extremely dated musical terminology).

I was really talking graphics here... I mean, we have realistic shading on Mario, realistic shading on Pikachu, realistic shading on Ganondorf, ZOMG Celda!

Still, nothing compares with Mr. Game and Watch for disparity of style. I think cel shading is safe. Besides, "realistic" is relative. Some might say it's just more detailed.

Incidentally, if Mr. Game and Watch leaves, we will probably lose his stage, too. If so, I will miss it.

[Dawnlight]

Ice climbers tooks so real if you look closely to it. That hammer looks truly like a realistic hammer.

[Mitchfork]

Ice climbers tooks so real if you look closely to it. That hammer looks truly like a realistic hammer.

That's the one thing I noticed. It even had tiny notches cut into it, seemingly from overuse. Nintendo is taking no prisoners as far as graphics quality goes.

[Dawnlight]

Imagine if the Wii had PS3 Graphics.

[ShadowTiger]

No.


Seriously, what does imagining or hoping do. This isn't a wishlist thread, y'know.

[Mitchfork]

Imagine if the Wii had PS3 Graphics.

SSBB would be a crappy game with the best graphics ever.

Edited by Ebola Zaire, 15 September 2007 - 11:11 AM.

[Moonbread]

... I like Ice Climbers. Seriously. I hate people who say that a certain character sucks. Because no character sucks. Especially, since you're saying I suck, because Ice Climbers are one of my best.

[The Satellite]

Seriously, what does imagining or hoping do. This isn't a wishlist thread, y'know.

Oh, really? I guess then we'd better stop wishing for certain characters to show up, then.

[Ben]

SSBB would be a crappy game with the best graphisc ever.

And about 18 people on the entire planet would own the system that it is for.

But still. What use is it contemplating that? It's NOT going to be on the PS3 and it WILL be on the Wii. The Wii isn't as powerful as like...the XBox 360 or the PS3 (the Wii essentially a somewhat faster version of the Gamecube) but it still can put out some great visuals. Personally, while I understand the need to ramp up the graphics even more over SSBM, I still believe that SSBM already had great graphics.

Also, I haven't posted in this thread before mainly because of all the 'suggestions' and rumors that can't possibly be true. Those make me angry. >> No, they are not going to put (random character from a competing company's video game series) into the game. Sorry.

[Moldorm]

Some guy at fuska.se (Swedish game site) keeps trying to convince everyone that "SONIC WILL B IN BRWAL,THE GUY WHO MAKS THE GAMES TOLD ME,OMGOMGOMG!!!!!one!!!1!!!".

Fanboys are scary.

[ShadowTiger]

Some guy at fuska.se (Swedish game site) keeps trying to convince everyone that "SONIC WILL B IN BRWAL,THE GUY WHO MAKS THE GAMES TOLD ME,OMGOMGOMG!!!!!one!!!1!!!".

Fanboys are scary.

Doing all their thinking with a Genie's Lamp then, eh?