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#61 Rambly

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Posted 28 May 2025 - 05:20 PM

Hi everyone, thanks for your interest in the archives and stats all these years!
 
Long story short, I need to change the way the pages are hosted, and this requires me to take everything down for an indeterminate amount of time. Rest assured, nothing is being deleted or lost.
 
I don't have a timeline of when things will be back, but I'll make another post when they are, likely in several weeks. Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions in the meantime. Thanks again.

Hey, nice hearing from you! Hope you're well!

 

Thank you for your service for all these years; I've always really enjoyed looking through the archives and being fascinated by how storied ZC's history is and how much things have evolved. I really appreciate the work you've put in!


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#62 Taco Chopper

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Posted 29 May 2025 - 05:54 AM

Likewise from me! The continued maintenance of the archives well into this iteration of Screenshot of the Week is greatly appreciated; particularly when linkrot is a massive issue in a community as old as ours. 


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#63 Cobgoblin

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Posted 29 May 2025 - 12:25 PM

Echoing Rambly and Taco Chopper. Thank you so much for hosting this archive for this long and keeping it up to date!


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#64 Mitchfork

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Posted 30 May 2025 - 11:45 AM

Is there any way that the archives could be mirrored/backed up on PureZC's own servers?


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#65 Taco Chopper

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Posted 30 May 2025 - 10:52 PM

Is there any way that the archives could be mirrored/backed up on PureZC's own servers?

Considering the archives are hotlinking to the screenshots on the PureZC website, rather than being hosted on nicklegends' side, I can't see any reason why we couldn't host a mirrored archive. It'd be minimal on data usage.
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#66 nicklegends

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Posted 31 May 2025 - 04:57 PM

Thank you all for your kind words! :cheese:

 

Considering the archives are hotlinking to the screenshots on the PureZC website, rather than being hosted on nicklegends' side, I can't see any reason why we couldn't host a mirrored archive. It'd be minimal on data usage.

 

I'd be happy to support something like this. I don't believe there are any absolute links to the original host within the pages, so theoretically I should just be able to zip up all the files locally and send them over? Send me a message and let me know what would be best.
 


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#67 Taco Chopper

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Posted 11 June 2025 - 10:16 PM

We're excited to reveal the Screenshot of the Week archives are back up, and finally hosted on PureZC as well - at https://sotw.purezc.net/ no less! 

 

Thanks to nicklegends for sending everything across for PureZC to set this up, as well as hosting the archives himself for the past twelve years.


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#68 connor.clark

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Posted 12 June 2025 - 01:23 PM

Nice work!

Is https://github.com/e...y/ContestHelper(linked at the bottom) still where the code for this lives?

 

One unfortunate quirk with how browsers display images is that by default it's bad for pixel art. nickelegends updated this website awhile ago to improve that (it's as simple as `image-rendering: pixelated;` in the CSS). But that's not possible to do when viewing image URLs directly in the browser, which is pretty lame.

 

So the one feature I'd suggest would be having clicking on these images not open the image URL directly, but instead either:

1) pop up a full-screen lightbox to display the image at max resolution on the page (and still styled w/ the `image-rendering: pixelated` CSS)

2) go to a dedicated page for the image, but it's still an HTML page. the HTML can be very simple: render the image at max resolution but w/ the correct image-rendering CSS. This is probably the better solution since it makes linkable the best way to view the image, and it's easier than make a lightbox.

 

This is also currently an issue for all PNGs shown on the forums. You can notice it easily if you zoom in to any image, and in the browser developer tools toggle `image-rendering: pixelated;` on the image.


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#69 Anthus

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Posted 17 June 2025 - 12:58 AM

New archive looks great, it's also much faster. Thanks for maintaining this all these years, nicklegends! 


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#70 Mani Kanina

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Posted 17 June 2025 - 12:59 PM

It was brought up on Discord, but would it be possible if the archives themselves don't display old usernames? You can cleanly see them if you click through to the threads, which is not really something we can do a whole lot about for logistical reasons. But the archives existing kinda gives less reason to go forum diving anyway.

The reason I ask, and why it was brought up, is that we do have a lot of queer users on Pure, and some users might have used either their real name or one that is... awkward to look back on, back in the early days. If we are going to support this archive in an official capacity then I think it's good if we do right by our users.


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#71 Anthus

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Posted 17 June 2025 - 04:25 PM

It might also be nice to have a link to the archive in the menu at the top of the site. I'm unsure where it would fit best though, maybe under Database or Community?

 

Also I second what Mani said. I could see why some people don't want their old names easily seen. That said, it does still show old names in the actual threads but that requires one more click to see.


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#72 Haylee

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Posted 18 June 2025 - 11:45 AM

The reason I ask, and why it was brought up, is that we do have a lot of queer users on Pure, and some users might have used either their real name or one that is... awkward to look back on, back in the early days. If we are going to support this archive in an official capacity then I think it's good if we do right by our users.

To triple on this, one of my old usernames is a reference to my deadname, and it does peeve me a bit to have it permanently archived forever there. I think either being able to request specific usernames be removed or just not having the older usernames altogether would be appreciated. I think the most useful use for the SotW archive has been for users to look back at their own history in SotW, and it'd very much be appreciated if the people who are most likely to read through the archive aren't made uncomfortable reading it.

 

Doesn't really help that it also archives all of your old usernames, regardless of whether or not you submitted to SotW with said username or not (I never submitted as Zephyr_Eevee for instance yet that username is mentioned on the site.), and I think even that's weird. Outside of those complaints, this archive absolutely rules and I'm glad it exists.


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#73 nicklegends

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Posted 19 June 2025 - 12:22 AM

So the one feature I'd suggest would be having clicking on these images not open the image URL directly, but instead either:

1) pop up a full-screen lightbox to display the image at max resolution on the page (and still styled w/ the `image-rendering: pixelated` CSS)

2) go to a dedicated page for the image, but it's still an HTML page. the HTML can be very simple: render the image at max resolution but w/ the correct image-rendering CSS. This is probably the better solution since it makes linkable the best way to view the image, and it's easier than make a lightbox.

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I've logged it as an idea for consideration for if I decide to do more development on the webpage generation code.

 

It was brought up on Discord, but would it be possible if the archives themselves don't display old usernames?

I could see why some people don't want their old names easily seen.

I think either being able to request specific usernames be removed or just not having the older usernames altogether would be appreciated.

Thanks for expressing your concerns about this. The intent behind tracking and displaying name changes to this point has been to satisfy a few objectives:

  1. Cross-linking older and newer entries such that they are credited to the proper individual and don't show up as two different users. This is the most important functional aspect of tracking name changes and needs to happen in some capacity behind the scenes, whether or not these old names are displayed, as long as members want their entries to be linked and as long as names are used as identifiers and not Member IDs. (Why not use Member IDs? The answer is that all the data entry is performed manually—every result of every entry in every contest is something I've typed in, as well as every username change—and frankly, I'm not willing to search for each user and record their member ID when I manually update the results each week. A system integrated with PureZC's databases could do this, but these archives are separate and I don't expect them to ever be integrated.)
  2. Communicating past names to visitors so that they can know who's who when viewing old contest threads that feature the retired names (both in the top-level post and in subsequent feedback and discussion).
  3. Presenting an opportunity for visitors who may not follow forum events closely—or who may be visiting for the first time in a while—to recognize that a member whose old name the visitor is more familiar with has changed their name (and to know what the newer preferred name is). I can't speak for everyone, but as a long-time PureZC member who was way more active in the past than today, I have found this helps me better recognize familiar people with new names when I do browse the forums.

The primary reference I've used for name changes is the "name history" dialog within each user's profile, and I still rely on that when I encounter a name in a contest I don't recognize. Some older info came from a (now ancient) official name-change thread, and some especially old info I had to infer from the names of members that replied to shot feedback in the original contest threads. The reason I went through these efforts was for the objectives above, and I regret that a process I performed with functionality and convenience in mind has caused some members to feel uncomfortable. I want to make these pages better for the affected users so that the archives properly celebrate the awesome creativity everyone has displayed through Screenshot of the Week rather than upsetting people.

 

Please send me a private message if you would prefer your name history to be hidden.

 

This functionality isn't in the code now, but based on this feedback, I now feel like it's an important enough change to warrant digging up my old Java IDE and making a code update to enable it. I'll also add language to the first post in this thread and the archives site inviting members with concerns to contact me so that I can make things right.

 

Please note that I'm not staff and can't modify how your name history appears in your PureZC member profile, which names of yours have appeared on the site in SotW or elsewhere, or the names embedded in the URLs of the shots you've submitted to contests. I also request your patience: this is entirely a volunteer effort, and the aforementioned manual updates, separation from PureZC databases, and crusty code make code updates somewhat more challenging than they might let on.

 

All said, thank you again for this feedback. I'll get to work on it soon.


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