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[Nicholas Steel]

The american one was leaked a fair while ago jfyi. ffff at us likely getting the worse of the 2 designs.

[Jared]

Look at the gem I found :')

http://www.youtube.c...0&feature=feedu

[Tree]

They got rid of that scene with Twin Rova and Nabooru. Well, it kinda didn't have anything to do with ANYTHING, so it doesn't really matter.

[Russ]

Wow... I can't even see any differences (graphically). The more I see of this, the more unimpressed I am. Go ahead and buy it, but I think I'll stick with the one I already own. Ya know, the one that's exactly the frickin' same. Honestly, this seems pretty half-assed to me. They've added Master Quest (got it already), boss rush (can use emulator cheats to do the same thing), and better graphics (can hardly tell the difference). Sorry, but that's not nearly enough to justify paying 40 dollars.

[Tree]

Can hardly tell the difference between the new graphics? You must be as blind as a f***ing bat to not notice it. You don't have to buy it, but any real fan would.

[The Satellite]

Keiichi, don't make statements like that. "blind as a f***ing bat" is tactless, and you can't tell someone he's not a fan for making what's a sensible decision. You're out of line. Being a "true fan" is a relative statement; it doesn't have to mean "I'm going to buy every single thing in existence that has the name 'Zelda' on it just because it has the name 'Zelda' on it!" What one person considers a "true fan" and what another person considers a "true fan" are two different things, and the very term "true fan" is a relative statement anyway. Stop calling people out for their opinions.

That being said, I watched the intro, and while I agree that it looks very different from the original (the field is beautiful), I thought the camera looked a bit jumpy. It certainly seemed to flow more smoothly in the original's opening, but maybe that's just me. I dunno. It's just the intro. As interested as I am in getting the game, this is really not a big deal at all.

[Moonbread]

There's a fine line between "true fan" and "blindly obsessed". In case you haven't noticed, I'm a huge fan of Zelda, and I'm still 99% sure that I am not going to get this. It's like being a fan of a certain band or of a certain writer- you don't have to like every song or book they churn out, just because you say you're a fan of their work. I'm sure OoT is a big deal to you, but to someone who grew up with and who was more influenced by the first three Zelda games, they're a much bigger deal in the series than OoT is to me. That's particularly why the intro isn't all that impressive to me, or making me go "OMG OMG ZELDA HELL YEAH!" because I never put my nostalgia glasses on when I first played OoT.

[Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder]

Wow... I can't even see any differences (graphically). The more I see of this, the more unimpressed I am. Go ahead and buy it, but I think I'll stick with the one I already own. Ya know, the one that's exactly the frickin' same. Honestly, this seems pretty half-assed to me. They've added Master Quest (got it already), boss rush (can use emulator cheats to do the same thing), and better graphics (can hardly tell the difference). Sorry, but that's not nearly enough to justify paying 40 dollars.

You can't? Strange. Did you know it's a new engine? And that the animations and... well, everyhing will flow differently?

There are pretty massive changes, but again, not everyone has the abillity to see the differences in things like this. It's like, I was showing off that old forest map from THP a few years back, to some friends of mine, and they simply could not see the differences between it and A Link to the Past! This map btw.

It looks nothing like A Link to the Past, other than the few obvious parts, like the trees and the mountains, but even those aren't exactly the same My point is that some people simply don't have eyes trained to spot these differences unless they see comparisons shots or something.

So here are some!

http://nintendo3ds.d...omparison-2.jpg
I'll have a few basic comments: notice how the bridge is now an actual 3D object, instead of a flat texture?

http://nintendo3ds.d...omparison-9.jpg
See the wall? Soooo much nicer a texture! And not to mention the new models on the enemies.

http://nintendo3ds.d...mparison-10.jpg
Here's another really nice example. See the higher-res paintings?

http://nintendo3ds.d...mparison-11.jpg
See how much more detailed this room is! It gives it more of a personality.

http://nintendo3ds.d...mparison-12.jpg
Looking away from the obviously better Link model, spot all the new underwater effects, which are obviously also animated.

http://nintendo3ds.d...omparison-1.jpg
Okay, so this one is a poor-quality image, but still, see how the room is now actually a 3D enviorment, instead of just a pre-rendered image? Big difference.

So yeah, there are a lot of pretty damn huge differences. Another one is the oh-so-much better color palette. It features stronger, slightly more cartoonish colors which really do the game justice.


That said, the intro is nothing special. Not to mention the fact that we have seen it before (In this topic, even). I mean, yes, it features the new graphics and all, but the videoquality is horrible. Heck, I can't believe they actually released a trailer like that. I mean, come on, this is 2011! At least give us high-res trailers, even if the game itself doesn't run on an HD TV.

[Adem]

In addition to the examples Robin showed, if you pull up the original intro, and the new one, and switch back and forth between them, you can see the differences pretty well. The quality of the video isn't great, as previously stated, but you can still see the changes.

[William]

Can hardly tell the difference between the new graphics? You must be as blind as a f***ing bat to not notice it. You don't have to buy it, but any real fan would.

Woah. I'm sorry I'm so blind, and nowhere near as good of a fan as you. I wish I had $300 dollars to spend on the system and the game. Until then, I guess Keiichi will remain more of a "real" fan then me.

As for the game; I can see the differences between the old and the new, I just don't give a damn. After all, graphics aren't everything about a game. Besides, I don't have s***loads of money to waste on something I already basically have.

[Tree]

I'm sorry. I didn't really realize how wrong I sounded there. As for saying F*** all the time, that's just me. This site doesn't have to be super kiddy kiddy since most people here are older teenagers.And It's just really annoying to hear people say, "I'm not going to buy this because it's the same exact thing only with enhanced graphics". It's not even out yet! You know nothing! <-- that should tell you I was just being silly...

[Sir Evan]

Robin has the right idea here. Seeing the new and old graphics in a side-by-side comparison helps quite a bit in noticing the differences. I personally didn't think that the graphics were all that much better in the remake. Then I remember seeing that shop screen comparison in a Nintendo Power a while back and thinking "...oh..." The new ones are a lot nicer than the old ones.

But really, that doesn't matter as much to me. Really, I'm just glad that it's portable. That's my favorite feature.

...Of course, not counting that Redead feature that I'm still holding out for...

[Russ]

So yeah, there are a lot of pretty damn huge differences.

I must just be blind. The house inside is definitely a huge improvement (Always bugged me before), and the shop looks much better, but everything else just looks brighter to me. Like they took the screen, added a few more lightbulbs, and called it a day. This goes double so with the intro; I seriously can't tell much of a difference.

Not to mention, it's still the same game. Even if they completely re did the game in SS's art style, it doesn't change the fact that it's the same exact game they released 13 years ago. So yeah, I'm not going to get hyped over something that old when they didn't even bother changing anything up.

[Tree]

@Russ, the screens are brighter. But that's not even close to all that they did. Take a close look at Link. Just look at him for a minute or two. He looks much better, right?

http://nintendo3ds.d...omparison-2.jpg

^This, every single graphic is completely re-made. The bridge isn't flat anymore, the water is much different. Mountains actually look like mountains instead of giant turd mounds And the tall crass actually looks like a gathering of clovers and other plans instead of looking like a frozen waffle. And last but the most beautiful detail in this shot, the trees in the background.
Everything and every graphic/texture are completely remade and the models are enhanced and they don't look extremely square.
I hope you can see this now. You don't have to buy it, but I just want you to know that it's not just a port with little to no changes. Just the screens tell you that it is not.

That would be all

P.S. You last statement, "They didn't even bother to change it up"...Wow, I didn't know an employee of Nintendo was a member of this site

Edited by Keiichi123, 25 April 2011 - 07:39 PM.

[Russ]

but I just want you to know that it's not just a port with little to no changes. Just the screens tell you that it is not.

Graphics are changed. And nothing else. I'd consider that "Little to no". If they're going to remake it, they need to actually change it up. Swap out the horrible Hyrule Field the game has for a better one (Heck, I'd be happy if they just ripped TP's field and popped it in there). Add a new dungeon. Change the plot up. Something other than just graphics.

And even with the graphics, I don't see much change. The new ones look a little better, but honestly, they're not very different. Even with Link, the only difference I can see is in his arms, which look much better than the original. And I'm not going to be impressed because they evened out a character's arms.

Sorry if I'm sounding really negative/pessimistic, but it just frustrates me that they pass up the opportunity to fix a game that has so much potential and keep it bogged down in 13 year old limitations.