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#586 CastChaos

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:25 AM

As the first post of the BB thread states, I classify 3 secrets as "Ultimate secret", but only the only two are truly ultimate, I just had to come up with a name for the third. The "third" is in the Inverted World.
Let's see, 8 magic, about 16 hearts, L2 shield, blue tunic, lens, Moonpearl, slash, 1/2 magic are the max, as far as I remember. The things you have are very good.

Also, people, check the BB thread (in QPF), there's a development story now. The IR thread needs further feedback, too.

#587 judasrising

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:13 AM

icon_smile.gif hello

I miss one key in steaming systems

i have the boss key and i came in the room with dodongos but is a lock block there and i miss one key

help please


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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:36 AM

The one you miss is surely this one:
Just east from the dodongos is a chamber with lava. You can walk over this lava if you step to the right spot (which is a little left from the middle). So you can go south, kill all enemies there. icon_smile.gif

#589 judasrising

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:39 AM

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oh thank you for you help



#590 sctmorgan

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:31 PM

Okay I'm running around in circles right now trying to figure out what to do in nightmare. Found the dungeon on B1 Floor but I can't get pass the south room because of the invisible spikes(?). Does the lens work in this dungeon? Also, any help will help as to where else to go???

#591 FredFlinstone

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:00 PM

How do you get off MT dead end, beat the dungeon, got the hammer.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE(sctmorgan @ Nov 30 2008, 07:31 PM) View Post

Okay I'm running around in circles right now trying to figure out what to do in nightmare. Found the dungeon on B1 Floor but I can't get pass the south room because of the invisible spikes(?). Does the lens work in this dungeon? Also, any help will help as to where else to go???

You need 2 keys for the boss key, then go to a boss door. The 2 keys are:
1. Southwest from entrance, go into the small building.
2. At the middle, under tall grass.
Of course the lens work. Exactly the same way as ever.
Keep in mind that to access the biggest part of B1, you need to go all the way left from the entrance and then south into a building. But you probably already know that. From the big circle room, only north and east are valid directions. Pregnant_Cow is right north of the entrance, heed the advices you buy.


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FredFlintstone:
Southwest corner of the caves, go there. Since all caves lead south, the worst that can happen is that you need to walk a bit more to the west. You whack some boulders and broken objects with hammer to speed your way.

#593 sctmorgan

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:27 PM

CastChaos, thanks for the advice. I have one key but don't realize where I got it from because I'm so frustrated right now. I have been in the small bldg but I've tried everything to go north & east with no results. Every other route I take to get to the tall grass sends me back to the North of the small building the area with the fence. What am I not getting here?


QUOTE(CastChaos @ Nov 30 2008, 01:02 PM) View Post

You need 2 keys for the boss key, then go to a boss door. The 2 keys are:
1. Southwest from entrance, go into the small building.
2. At the middle, under tall grass.
Of course the lens work. Exactly the same way as ever.
Keep in mind that to access the biggest part of B1, you need to go all the way left from the entrance and then south into a building. But you probably already know that. From the big circle room, only north and east are valid directions. Pregnant_Cow is right north of the entrance, heed the advices you buy.
EDIT:

FredFlintstone:
Southwest corner of the caves, go there. Since all caves lead south, the worst that can happen is that you need to walk a bit more to the west. You whack some boulders and broken objects with hammer to speed your way.



#594 CastChaos

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:57 PM

sctmorgan:
"north & east" are two separate directions in my last post, not a route. If you go north through the door in the big room, you get back to the forest area with pounding stakes. Maybe this is the screen that you just mentioned. Pound the stakes with the hammer and go north. There's the tall grass you need to cut, it has damaging undercombo, but has a key. From there go all the way east, then north through the bridge then there will be a minitree... hookshot or burn it or such... you get into a small chamber, go through the right door and you get your boss key. icon_smile.gif

#595 jerome

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 03:06 PM

OK- so I now have the emblem of war. I tried to get all of the keys in Saturn's lightforce area, but I'm still missing 1 single key. A girl there said there were 4 keys, I found those. But I need 5. there was 1 extra key by the boss, but I needed that to get to him.

Where do I get the extra key? Or do I have to find a magic key somewhere? Also, is it possible to get permanently stuck if you take the key by the Clockwork Boss and use it for the lightforce instead causing you to start all over?

Also, where should I go next? The castle, or that pit that opens from the war emblem?

#596 CastChaos

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE(jerome @ Nov 30 2008, 09:06 PM) View Post

OK- so I now have the emblem of war. I tried to get all of the keys in Saturn's lightforce area, but I'm still missing 1 single key. A girl there said there were 4 keys, I found those. But I need 5. there was 1 extra key by the boss, but I needed that to get to him.

Where do I get the extra key? Or do I have to find a magic key somewhere? Also, is it possible to get permanently stuck if you take the key by the Clockwork Boss and use it for the lightforce instead causing you to start all over?

Also, where should I go next? The castle, or that pit that opens from the war emblem?

If you use up the key just before the boss, in the subdungeon, then you need to get the last subdungeon key and use it before the boss to access it. But now you have the Medal of War, so go to that hole you mentioned and get the boss key there. Additionally, the final level has a convenient key shop.

#597 sasja

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:38 PM

in nightmare when I follow your instructions I came in b2 there is only one warp to the woods again.There is no wand.

never mind found the wand but now have trouble to find my way out

Edited by sasja, 30 November 2008 - 08:17 PM.


#598 sctmorgan

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:15 PM

What am I doing wrong to beat the boss in Nightmare? I can't figure out how to setup the mirrors? It can't be that simple can it?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:29 PM

There's an obstacle that you need to get rid of. Line up the mirror with Nightmare's feet, then (I believe) smash the obstacle with the Hammer.

#600 barefootguy

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 02:23 AM

I'm stuck in level 3. Once I beat this darknut:
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It warps me to a switch that clears an obstacle from a corridor. Now that the corridor is clear, how do I get to the middle part of it?



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