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#46 Linkus

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 01:20 PM

I don't think you understand - the aspect of the "final" game is that it's a game that can last a long time in terms of replay and content, and they can keep it that way through downloadable content - it's why I'm suggesting that the next game should be that, as it's been less than a year for each game that's coming out. So, if they want to put in the a true successor, it's going to be a game that you're still playing after a decade.

After all, the day of sequels are dying off for games, thanks to downloadable content and additions - something they should more than consider when it comes to the next series.

#47 Golden Chocobo

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE(Banjo7J @ Apr 10 2010, 03:40 AM) View Post

604 is 4 times that and there's almost definitely going to be about 640 or higher.

If there's 493 right now, I seriously doubt the number of the next generation will go over 600.
QUOTE(Koh @ Apr 10 2010, 06:47 AM) View Post

GC,you seem to be forgetting things:
-For a WiFi trade,you only request one you've SEEN;You never SEE all in 1 game.
-Some,like me,don't live near/know many Poké-Maniacs,so local trades are almost impossible.
-I doubt the many of us here would randomly ask someone if they had a game,and would trade with us.
-Many don't want to spend a lot of money on/have time for a convention that lasts 3 days,requires cross-country trips,and only gives legendary things there.

I haven't forgotten anything. I understand how the GTS works.

You don't see all of them, that's why you trade with other people or import. You do see a large percentage of them.

I don't go to conventions and trade or ask random people to trade, either. I'm just saying that I could accomplish it by trading with two or three of my friends, importing and using the GTS. I was not suggesting by any means that you go talk to strangers to complete your pokedex.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE(Christian @ Apr 10 2010, 12:46 PM) View Post

By saying "It's hardly Pokemon" what do you mean? because all i see is people complaining about the same pseudo 3D in the games and the same formula from over a decade. <_< The developers did say that we would expect a new kind of gameplay and storyline.

I'm like Lemon. I prefer my Pokemon games to be overhead...And I'm not really one of the people complaining about them using the same formula over and over again. The most I said is that they should simply add more side quest like things.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 02:23 PM

Personally, I like the 3D view better. The 3D picture they showed look awesome, especially the big city! I just wish they'd move on to 3D battles like they had in Colosseum/XD already. Oh well, at least the new battle screen looks neat, and you can actually see your entire Pokemon, rather than just his head. Now lets hope they make the animations for moves better, rather than still have stupid stuff like flamethrower coming out of Charizard's neck.

On a side note, am I the only one happy the the Pokemart is now in the same building as the Pokecenter? So much more convenient.

Edit: I just realized that the main character doesn't have a Pokemon following her (I think it's a her, at least) around. Do you think they left the feature out, or they just have it turned off in the picture so that they don't reveal any new Pokemon??

Edited by Russ, 10 April 2010 - 02:26 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2010 - 03:35 PM

^Hm. Maybe.

Anyway, Black & White...maybe something like light and darkness? Maybe we're finally gonna see the Light element come into existence?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 10 2010, 03:23 PM) View Post
Edit: I just realized that the main character doesn't have a Pokemon following her (I think it's a her, at least) around. Do you think they left the feature out, or they just have it turned off in the picture so that they don't reveal any new Pokemon??
I was just thinking about this earlier today. I love having Pokémon following you; taking it out would be stupid.

But, then again, what do I care? I'll never play another Pokémon game again. icon_deformed.gif

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 10 2010, 03:23 PM) View Post

Do you think they left the feature out, or they just have it turned off in the picture so that they don't reveal any new Pokemon??


I think it will be great to have a choice to have your pokemon follow you or not. If i reckon correctly, the first beta pics of HG/SS did not show a Pokemon follow you and we didn't know it did until way later. Has anyone noticed the new Logos on the main pokemon page? I think the new logos represent something.

I hope they add in the anime voices for pokemon rather than the GB phat voices.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:59 PM

I hope that whatever the hell thir new region is, allows traveling to other regions after the PL; I'm sick of the same old 1 region crap. Also, anyone notice that they restrict weather to a single route!? They need to take that and make it random (unless it needs a certain one 24/7). They also need to keep the morn/day/night system. About that Poké-follow system...Not to mention the opposing trainers actually throwing their balls, instead of leaving them on the ground! Just Koh's 2¢...PSP limits here.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 07:09 PM

I hope for a less ridiculous plot. Platinum handled it ok, but the whole god pokemon thing is still pretty screwy to me. Actually, it seems to me that Gold/Silver were the last games to actually have any legendaries (in game) that I wanted to catch. Groudon and Kryogieiogkg were stupid looking, Rayquaza was looked mechanical, palkia and dialga are also just giant stupid things and Giritina is a centipide... dragon.. thing.

Give me the game. Watch me become Pokemon master. Good. Don't need to save the world.

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE(Christian @ Apr 10 2010, 02:20 PM) View Post

I hope they add in the anime voices for pokemon rather than the GB phat voices.

Well, the old sounds are bad, but the anime voices are worse. They should use the ones from Pokemon Stadium 2. Those sounded great!

QUOTE(Lemon @ Apr 10 2010, 05:09 PM) View Post

I hope for a less ridiculous plot. Platinum handled it ok, but the whole god pokemon thing is still pretty screwy to me. Actually, it seems to me that Gold/Silver were the last games to actually have any legendaries (in game) that I wanted to catch. Groudon and Kryogieiogkg were stupid looking, Rayquaza was looked mechanical, palkia and dialga are also just giant stupid things and Giritina is a centipide... dragon.. thing.

Give me the game. Watch me become Pokemon master. Good. Don't need to save the world.

I disagree. I love the save the world part. The Rocket part of HG/SS was fun, but too short. Emerald was great because most of the game was driven by the plot. Platinum handled it well too, but let the plot drag too much at certain points. Emerald was fast-paced throughout.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 10 2010, 08:06 PM) View Post

I disagree. I love the save the world part. The Rocket part of HG/SS was fun, but too short. Emerald was great because most of the game was driven by the plot. Platinum handled it well too, but let the plot drag too much at certain points. Emerald was fast-paced throughout.

Bahh it's just so silly though. It bugs the living HELL out of me that you have no voice or character at all and are instead just told by everyone what you are and what you should do. If you stay a kid going around, grabbing badges and such (like red/blue), sure, fine that works.

But the second you become a trainer with 7 badges who is told by someone who has far better pokemon that YOU are the CHOSEN ONE who has to capture the GOD of the CHAOS... you lose me.

Another thing that bothers me is that Pokemon has no moral whatsoever. No meaning. The only thing you are taught by playing pokemon is to love pokemon. Seriously, every trainer in the game pretty much instructs you to love them. It's almost like some weird psychological manipulation thing. Maybe. Probably not. But just a thought icon_biggrin.gif.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:58 AM

QUOTE(Lemon @ Apr 11 2010, 06:18 AM) View Post

Bahh it's just so silly though. It bugs the living HELL out of me that you have no voice or character at all and are instead just told by everyone what you are and what you should do. If you stay a kid going around, grabbing badges and such (like red/blue), sure, fine that works.

But the second you become a trainer with 7 badges who is told by someone who has far better pokemon that YOU are the CHOSEN ONE who has to capture the GOD of the CHAOS... you lose me.

Another thing that bothers me is that Pokemon has no moral whatsoever. No meaning. The only thing you are taught by playing pokemon is to love pokemon. Seriously, every trainer in the game pretty much instructs you to love them. It's almost like some weird psychological manipulation thing. Maybe. Probably not. But just a thought icon_biggrin.gif .
I do find myself kissing the screen when my Charizard attacks, even when confused though... does that mean I love it? icon_razz.gif

Seriously, I actually did that when I was younger. That means I don't anymore. Or at least, that means I'm not ready to tell you all that I'm actually still doing it. I love my Charizard :3


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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:04 AM

I would love to see a Pokemon game that feels like a pre-PS2 Final Fantasy game; I have been sort of on an RPG binge lately and I really think that Pokemon would benefit from actual character development and what I hear is referred to as "plot." Getting all eight badges was great in the generation I and II games as this was enough to motivate you and left room for gameplay depth because of technology limitations... but it seems that the development has become complacent. They take the R/B formula and apply new features to it, instead of going through and making a new formula to better use the system capabilities/make a better game in general. I see no reason why your character should be faceless, and in fact prefer it when the protagonist has some sort of voice. I know that would basically betray the series thus far, but some sort of innovation would go a long way towards making me want to buy this game (something that I have no intention of doing now).

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:46 AM

Those screen shots are awesome. Especially the battle screen, I always hated that it wasn't 3D or at least, top-down.

QUOTE(Golden Chocobo @ Apr 10 2010, 07:32 PM) View Post

If there's 493 right now, I seriously doubt the number of the next generation will go over 600.

They always have over 100 new pokemon (except in the case of Gold and Silver) so it's highly unlikely that it will be under 600.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE(Banjo7J @ Apr 11 2010, 05:46 AM) View Post

They always have over 100 new pokemon (except in the case of Gold and Silver) so it's highly unlikely that it will be under 600.

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QUOTE(Migokalle @ Apr 11 2010, 03:58 AM) View Post

I do find myself kissing the screen when my Charizard attacks, even when confused though... does that mean I love it? icon_razz.gif

Seriously, I actually did that when I was younger. That means I don't anymore. Or at least, that means I'm not ready to tell you all that I'm actually still doing it. I love my Charizard :3

It's okay, I do that too. Charizard is the best :3


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