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#496 schoochie662

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:37 PM

There are several bombable spots down there besides the froggy holes. Maybe it takes a key to go north in the room where you bombed to go to the basement. Once you go north there you can go outside and burn a skull, then do other stuff that leads to a key.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE(schoochie662 @ Jan 23 2010, 02:37 PM) View Post

There are several bombable spots down there besides the froggy holes. Maybe it takes a key to go north in the room where you bombed to go to the basement. Once you go north there you can go outside and burn a skull, then do other stuff that leads to a key.


Thank you schoochie! Movin' right along (for now!) with my brand new mirror shield!

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 08:47 AM

Finished level 6, looking for level 7, unsuccessfully: where is it? icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE(patgarret @ Jan 25 2010, 02:47 PM) View Post

Finished level 6, looking for level 7, unsuccessfully: where is it? icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif

First go back to Tasea Village, find a hiiden path to the catacomben. If you get the ladder search for a way to Blauwasser. You need the big wallet to buy an expensive SBomb in Tasea.


#500 chiefbigcalf

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:40 AM

Got the reflector shield, but I have 2 questions:
1) First floor left, reflected into the Gargoyle to open the door outside and fired up the skull to wind around in the garden. but there is still another gate stopping me from getting the chest.what must I do?
2) First floor to the right of the right staircase, there is a room where you had to use magic blasts twice to open the door, in that room there is upper level with a "crystal thing" that needs to be activated (prob. with the sword) how do I get up there?
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#501 patgarret

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:25 PM

Hi Jpappi, thank you for your useful hints!!
Now I found a bug when saved and restarted the game.

Here is the pic:
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I am blocked at the left corner...

Uaoo! using some little trick I came back to the start, but the bug, with some black rooms, is real...

Edited by patgarret, 26 January 2010 - 02:06 PM.


#502 chiefbigcalf

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:41 AM

Can someone feed me a bone,please??

first floor, front left. refect into Gargoyle and open door outside, fire skull to wind further to left front corner, but gate still blocks access to chest (front left corner of the first floor) and secondly, the room to the right of staircase on the right side of first floor where magic blasts were used twice to open the door, still a crystal in an upper level in that screen

Edited by chiefbigcalf, 02 February 2010 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 26 January 2010 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE(chiefbigcalf @ Jan 26 2010, 06:41 AM) View Post

Can someone feed me a bone,please??

Okay, I'll try to answer these as best I can.

Can anybody help me with those 2 questions....first floor, front left. refect into Gargoyle and open door outside, fire skull to wind futher to left front corner, but gate still blocks access to chest (front left corner of the first floor)

You will not get this chest until you unlock gates that require keys and arrows. There are buttons, switches, skulls and other triggers to open gates. Be patient. Sometimes you "accidently" end up on the other side of a gate. Also make sure you have the updated bugfixes as of Jan. 17.

and secondly, the room to the right of staircase on the right side of first floor where magic blasts were used twice to open the door, still a crystal in an upper level in that screen

This crystal did nothing, to my observation. But maybe I inadvertantly hit it with a sword beam, early on. You can go to the room directly left to that room and hit the mirror with the various items that appear in their ghostly form. A staircase will appear, you climb up, and whack the crystal, but I couldn't see anything happen.

...ALSO... I've come across two froggi holes in the basement (the 2 rooms share a north-south border) are there any others??

Yes there are others, but you will come to them close to the end, when you need them.

Besides the screens with river running thru the screens in the basement, I have made this much progress:(in the basement)
EAST BANK: 2 FROGGI HOLE ROOMS , ROOM ON TOP THOSE TWO (either bombed or entrance was there)and a SHOP from a froggi room

SOUTH BANK: 6 rooms packed in a 2 by 3 array including the overpass over the river to a key

WEST BANK: most northerly room in a black dungeon with an unreachable chest; the room where the key actually was in, but blocked by 4 blocks at the entrance even though magic can open the north door out of the room

NORTH BANK:.4 ROOMS WHEN COMING DOWN THE STEPS, room straight ahead and the rooms east and west of that one....AND...the room to the far wset which takes you back upstairs outside

Are there others that can be accessed?


You will be CONSTANTLY running around, unlocking a gate, running to some other part of the level and then find yourself unlocking further gates. It is practically impossible for anyone to perfectly visualize what you are asking. So if you could please post pictures, they really do help in showing where you are and what your problem is. But the items that are acquired in this level (mirror shield and arrow upgrade), as well as the master key, are all needed to open up the dungeon (along with several regular keys). Key management is important because you may "waste" one along the way on less significant acquisitions (like the Gruftpuzzle: I still don't know what you get with that), so don't save (unless you have a copy) until you're sure you actually progress toward the goal of getting the items and master key asap. Then you can stroll around the dungeon, master of all you survey with little impediment.

Please try to post pictures with specific questions like "here's where I am; what do I do with this something or another." I'm sorry there's so little help on this, but you will be very familiar with routes and rooms after another 10 hours of play. icon_smile.gif

Edited by arieltap, 26 January 2010 - 11:50 PM.


#504 chiefbigcalf

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 02:21 PM

That is the case , to be sure, as I also have the boss key now .. but I still don't know how to open that chest in the front left of the first floor..

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE(chiefbigcalf @ Jan 27 2010, 12:21 PM) View Post

That is the case , to be sure, as I also have the boss key now .. but I still don't know how to open that chest in the front left of the first floor..


If you are speaking of the room with a spikey-roller and lock-box blocking the entrance, then... kill everyone in the room, reflect into the gargoyle, which should stop the roller. Then use a key, walk through the block into the room below. Kill everyone, and the chest should appear.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:51 PM

No , that's the map chest....this is outside in that corner though..when you came out of the mansion you had to burn a skeleton head to keep going ( the outer edge of that corner is formed by when you come back up from the basement) there's a chest that you can only see when you come up from the basement but it is in the garden ( left front outside first floor) probably some bombs, but what the hell is in it?

#507 arieltap

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:22 PM

Do you mean this chest?

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It's a key (I think)!

Edited by arieltap, 27 January 2010 - 10:48 PM.


#508 chiefbigcalf

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:36 PM

How do you get to it?

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:43 PM

I'm not entirely certain, but I believe you must face the gargoyle in the panel below the one I pictured, and give him cause to reflect upon his actions.... icon_smile.gif Then the gate opens and you walk up to the chest!

Edited by arieltap, 27 January 2010 - 10:46 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:49 AM

Mudvayne, you've created an astounding game, and your three years of work are evident in its quality and creativity. There aren't enough superlatives to describe it. You have raised the bar for outstanding questmaking. Also, thanks to you and JPappi for all of your help. Must we wait another three years for the next game?


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