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#451 vravelo

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:40 PM

Ah thanks for the updated file and i go back to the Excavation place and do some more exploring work there.

Hi judasrising!!! , the excavation is a magical place"" the super bow is in there (gold) the fire arrow is in there too(light arrow)

lens of true - super wallet - red candle -one relic when entering etc etc, lens of true work at some place on enigma castle" though there is a compilation of pictures for walking safe and no be send to the begining (let me know if you need it) .... more



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:44 PM

Enigma Castle maze walkway path, Floor 1, Floor 2, Floor 3; all from ZQuest.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:50 PM

Hi judasrising!!! , the excavation is a magical place"" the super bow is in there (gold) the fire arrow is in there too(light arrow)

lens of true - super wallet - red candle -one relic when entering etc etc, lens of true work at some place on enigma castle" though there is a compilation of pictures for walking safe and no be send to the begining (let me know if you need it) .... more

Ah thanks i just found the light arrows and realize that i dont have the lens of true yet (i wonder if i can get that one)

 

Great thanks ShadowTiger that will be helpfull.



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 06:55 PM

Ah thanks i just found the light arrows and realize that i dont have the lens of true yet (i wonder if i can get that one)

If you get the best wallet from the Excavation, you are literally mere steps from it. That's a massive, massive hint that I just dropped. o.o

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 07:01 PM

If you get the best wallet from the Excavation, you are literally mere steps from it. That's a massive, massive hint that I just dropped. o.o

Ah i now understand that hint :ahha:   (i have to walk safe) :naughty:  thanks again



#456 vravelo

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 11:28 PM

Ah i now understand that hint :ahha:   (i have to walk safe) :naughty:  thanks again

mmm...?? :confused: :confused: .... I don't get it, if he is next to the wallet... the item is on the lower floor, but need go back and use another way I mean,, make up to the top and bomb two wall to the right?? and........ well just a little confused :confused:



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Posted 07 October 2014 - 02:47 PM

Is there any order to the dungeons?  I'm looking for the candle, blue mail, and hammer.

I'm in the desert now but can't figure out the way to the southwest to use my super bomb.

 

Help I'm missing two keys in the Mansion in Lon Lon Heights.  I have two locked doors but no key for the north or east door.


Edited by sctmorgan, 07 October 2014 - 03:37 PM.


#458 ShadowTiger

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 04:34 PM

mmm...?? :confused: :confused: .... I don't get it, if he is next to the wallet... the item is on the lower floor, but need go back and use another way I mean,, make up to the top and bomb two wall to the right?? and........ well just a little confused :confused:

Aww, shoot, I just realized that I blocked off that shortcut to the lens of truth. I don't know whether to apologize or to be proud of myself. G'haa. I liked that shortcut. :(

To get the Lens of Truth, go to Excavation B-1 via F-1, go to the top-middle room with the four lamps around dark conveyors, (Read the sign on the top wall if you want. It's new'ish.) and then bomb the east wall. Get the HCP from the chest, and bomb the east wall again. The moment you come through the wall, walk over the pit so you're standing in front of the pit without actually walking upward to the chest, then walk to spaces to the right, then two spaces up to stand on the visible platform. I'll enlarge the pathway in the next version a bit so it's easier to walk to. The point is to have faith, like the sign says, and walk over the pit to the chest.
 
 

Is there any order to the dungeons?  I'm looking for the candle, blue mail, and hammer.
I'm in the desert now but can't figure out the way to the southwest to use my super bomb.

Oh no Super Bomb is at all necessary at that point in the quest.
  • L1 Candle: Mirage Temple, Desert. Find Kanavas, then from its northwest area in town, head west. Follow the sand worms to the temple. It's a fairly straightforward temple, supposedly. Some walls are indeed bombable.
  • Blue Mail: It's in Pulcheria village, actually. You'll need the hookshot. Think "Santa Clause." I really need to make the Blacksmith an actual shop, and overcharge the hell out of everything. I mean like, .. sixty thousand rupees for the Blue Mail. So you have to steal it from his basement. This is totally a thing that's going to hopefully happen. Hahaha...
  • Hammer: Found in the Crypts, in southeast Crystalia. You'll need the Blue Lantern, but that's about it. Helps to have the Hookshot though, which is found in the Train Station (Also in Crystalia) which needs the Crystal Mines to be gone through first to unlock the Train Station.

Help I'm missing two keys in the Mansion in Lon Lon Heights.  I have two locked doors but no key for the north or east door.

Two locked doors? If the south door is unlocked and you've gotten the bow, then there's no need to unlock either door. Both doors have a key behind them, and absolutely nothing more worth getting. :-/ If that's the area I'm thinking of, that is.

#459 vravelo

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 05:58 PM

mmm, why can't I find my way to the volcano?? , I'm confined to explore some areas but can't find my way to go  upper levels

there's one place  I need to place two bombs on the edge so the lave fluid way dawn ,then I could cross , but  didn't find the way

up,, I got those flying flippers(raft) , may need a pic for this impass,!



#460 pixcalibur

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 11:16 PM

Some small technical things:

- for spikes, maybe have them do 1 heart base instead of 2.  Early on in some of the caves, a couple of missteps into spikes will be costly

- Mansion - at end, replace up and right locked doors with shutter doors.  should never have a key behind a locked door, especially if nothing behind there anyway.  Door going down is ok to keep locked

- on 10:27, is that hint the same as the one hint in dreameater city?  Just to make sure, for L3 sword, you just need to talk to the person in the desert past the maze paths?
- in Mines, is there a use for the boss key?  didn't seem to see a boss door anywhere


#461 sctmorgan

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:46 AM

ShadowTiger,  thank u for your assistance.

 

Found the Mirage Temple and it's kicking my behind.  I'm running around in circles with one key.

 

 

Aww, shoot, I just realized that I blocked off that shortcut to the lens of truth. I don't know whether to apologize or to be proud of myself. G'haa. I liked that shortcut. :(

To get the Lens of Truth, go to Excavation B-1 via F-1, go to the top-middle room with the four lamps around dark conveyors, (Read the sign on the top wall if you want. It's new'ish.) and then bomb the east wall. Get the HCP from the chest, and bomb the east wall again. The moment you come through the wall, walk over the pit so you're standing in front of the pit without actually walking upward to the chest, then walk to spaces to the right, then two spaces up to stand on the visible platform. I'll enlarge the pathway in the next version a bit so it's easier to walk to. The point is to have faith, like the sign says, and walk over the pit to the chest.
 
 
Oh no Super Bomb is at all necessary at that point in the quest.

  • L1 Candle: Mirage Temple, Desert. Find Kanavas, then from its northwest area in town, head west. Follow the sand worms to the temple. It's a fairly straightforward temple, supposedly. Some walls are indeed bombable.
  • Blue Mail: It's in Pulcheria village, actually. You'll need the hookshot. Think "Santa Clause." I really need to make the Blacksmith an actual shop, and overcharge the hell out of everything. I mean like, .. sixty thousand rupees for the Blue Mail. So you have to steal it from his basement. This is totally a thing that's going to hopefully happen. Hahaha...
  • Hammer: Found in the Crypts, in southeast Crystalia. You'll need the Blue Lantern, but that's about it. Helps to have the Hookshot though, which is found in the Train Station (Also in Crystalia) which needs the Crystal Mines to be gone through first to unlock the Train Station.
Two locked doors? If the south door is unlocked and you've gotten the bow, then there's no need to unlock either door. Both doors have a key behind them, and absolutely nothing more worth getting. :-/ If that's the area I'm thinking of, that is.

 


Edited by sctmorgan, 08 October 2014 - 08:47 AM.


#462 ShadowTiger

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 03:36 PM

Ooh, hi there. Thanks for this. Okay, in order:
 

- for spikes, maybe have them do 1 heart base instead of 2. Early on in some of the caves, a couple of missteps into spikes will be costly.

Sure. This is an agreeable claim. Not like we have an easy mode or a hard mode.

 

- Mansion - at end, replace up and right locked doors with shutter doors.  should never have a key behind a locked door, especially if nothing behind there anyway.  Door going down is ok to keep locked

There are keys behind the north and the east doors; one each. So you use a key to get a key. You're back to square one, all within half a minute. No worries. Why, is there some way to mess this up? I can't really think of one off the top of my head.


 

- on 10:27, is that hint the same as the one hint in dreameater city?  Just to make sure, for L3 sword, you just need to talk to the person in the desert past the maze paths?

Yes, apparently it is a similar hint. The thing is, though, to talk to the person in Dreameater city, you need the L2 Gauntlets. But that's the only area where you need those during the quest to find the L3 Sword. If you buy the hint from the jerk in the desert (Which I made, which makes me a jerk too. Yay.) you don't need the L2 Gauntlets for that hint.

But the thing is, you don't need either of those hints to unlock the sword. The only thing that actually unlocks the ability to dive for the sword is walking around the last hint from the Dreameater in the bottom of that large 2x2 conveyor desert cavern on 24:53.
 

- in Mines, is there a use for the boss key?  didn't seem to see a boss door anywhere

Yes. It triggers secrets on 15:2A, which causes the floor to turn into warps, which use an Insta-Warp style warp, which leads to 15:2B, which lets you walk north to the "boss" room.

In Dreams of Yesterday, the item which resembles a Boss Key is not actually any kind of key. It just has the appearance of one to simulate such a behavior. It instead triggers a "boss room flag" type thing which kills enemies on two screens; one being the key screen, and the other being the door screen. When enemies on the door screen all die, secrets can be triggered, which replaces parts of the floor with warps to an identical screen where the door is open.




Found the Mirage Temple and it's kicking my behind. I'm running around in circles with one key.

Okay, first of all, definitely kill every enemy that you ever see. There is one screen on B-1 in the sand with some conveyors and leevers that drops a key onto a blue square in the middle of spikes. There's also a screen on B-1 with a 4x4 bunch of conveyors in the middle of the screen and 4 individual blocks, one on each corner of the screen. Push the upper right one to reach a room with a key.

#463 pixcalibur

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:18 PM

well, don't see much point to use a key to get another key in a dead end.  Can make some people question if they're stuck if they didn't open those two doors and went down first.  The hint room should be just that, no need to put a key there.  The room on the right maybe can be just for more money, again no need to lock that room.

 

Well, depending on quest progress and how much it's changing, let's see if I can do a test run.  Did those in the past, got sick and tired of it given there were changes so constantly that I had to start over to test again, lol



#464 judasrising

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:23 PM

Hi

 

Could someone give a helping hand here?

 

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i am doing something wrong in this room but what?



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:31 PM

if nothing changed from the original, I think you're supposed to light the torch, but before it lights up, hookshot to the left




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