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[Russ]

I'm a bit concerned that Lucas might not make the cut, but c'mon, they're not gonna cut Ness, or any of the original 12 fighters. That said, now that full costume changes are a thing with Little Mac, I'm kinda hoping Ness gets a Ninten alt costume, or Lucas gets a Claus costume (a full costume, not just palette swap like in Brawl). That's probably hoping for too much though.

[Aevin]

I'm a bit concerned that Lucas might not make the cut, but c'mon, they're not gonna cut Ness, or any of the original 12 fighters. That said, now that full costume changes are a thing with Little Mac, I'm kinda hoping Ness gets a Ninten alt costume, or Lucas gets a Claus costume (a full costume, not just palette swap like in Brawl). That's probably hoping for too much though.

Actually, I've been thinking about this and the fact that almost none of the so-called clone characters have been shown so far. With move customization in, it seems like it'd be easy to have such characters be costume swaps, with move options that match their specials. For example, have Lucas be a costume alt of Ness (with the same physical attacks) but have PK Freeze and his version of Fire, Thunder and Magnet as move customization options. Something similar could be done with Fox and Falco. Naturally, I'd prefer that all characters return with their full arsenals intact, but it does seem a little odd having moves customizable and then have characters with such similar specials.

Edited by Aevin, 09 April 2014 - 12:26 PM.

[thepsynergist]

I'm a bit concerned that Lucas might not make the cut, but c'mon, they're not gonna cut Ness, or any of the original 12 fighters. That said, now that full costume changes are a thing with Little Mac, I'm kinda hoping Ness gets a Ninten alt costume, or Lucas gets a Claus costume (a full costume, not just palette swap like in Brawl). That's probably hoping for too much though.

Brawl could already do this if you had a softmodded Wii. 

[Russ]

Yes, I know, that was one of the mods I had actually. It's still not the same as having it be an out-of-the-box feature though.

 

I am sorta wondering if Aevin's on to something with the custom moveset idea though. I can definitely see it, lumping similar characters together and using costume changes and moveset changes to accomplish what needed multiple characters in the past.

[HylianGlaceon]

Yes, I know, that was one of the mods I had actually. It's still not the same as having it be an out-of-the-box feature though.

 

I am sorta wondering if Aevin's on to something with the custom moveset idea though. I can definitely see it, lumping similar characters together and using costume changes and moveset changes to accomplish what needed multiple characters in the past.

 

Doubt it, they said they couldn't be used online in versus Anyone matches. It'd be really dumb to leave alternate characters out if so.

 

Anyhow, like the game has some neat things but not really impressed yet.

 

Lucario getting a buff? Why? Like it was fine in Brawl, if not a bit cheap from time to time with the Aura thing. And yet Link looks as terrible as he was before. Then Little Mac has this gauge that builds up and gives him a guaranteed KO move if it hits? Sounds fair...

 

On the plus side, it's about time we got rid of the "Form" changing characters. It seriously held some back to being all awful in Brawl (I.e Pokemon Trainer) and it'll be nice if they get some much needed buffs. (I'm aware Charizard is in by itself now)

 

Also Greninja? Why? It seems like a really random pokemon to put in as playable. Probably means no other pokemon can be in now with the four confirmed which also sucks. Kinda sucks Midna and especially Ridley won't be playable too, but expected.

 

Anyhow, unless there's a big feature unlocked by having both games, I'll be skipping the 3DS version. I'm still wondering what modes exactly the Wii U one will have... 

[strike]

The one thing I didn't like was Little Mac's charged punch. That is going to be seriously broken. O.O

 

-Strike

[The Satellite]

I wanna buy that Little Mac's air disadvantage will be the tradeoff, especially since I fill a good portion of my fighting with air maneuvers, so it'll be hard to adjust. Maybe it's true, but until we play it for ourselves, we won't know. I'm still excited though because Little Mac.

[The Satellite]

Random thought and legitimate case for Groose to be in the game: Groosenator would make him an amazing assist trophy.

[David]

That would be pretty cool!

[Moon]

Seeing the alt costumes for WFT and Little Mac, Dr. Mario probably wouldn't be too much to hope for as a costume.

Edited by Jacques, 09 April 2014 - 10:05 PM.

[MoscowModder]

I think that we shouldn't count out "clone characters" - after all, we do have Luigi and Toon Link. Mainly Luigi.

[Haylee]

I think that we shouldn't count out "clone characters" - after all, we do have Luigi and Toon Link. Mainly Luigi.

Luigi's not a clone though, his moveset has been different enough since Melee. (And especially Brawl's.)

 

Lucario getting a buff? Why? Like it was fine in Brawl, if not a bit cheap from time to time with the Aura thing. And yet Link looks as terrible as he was before. Then Little Mac has this gauge that builds up and gives him a guaranteed KO move if it hits? Sounds fair...

 

Also Greninja? Why? It seems like a really random pokemon to put in as playable. Probably means no other pokemon can be in now with the four confirmed which also sucks. Kinda sucks Midna and especially Ridley won't be playable too, but expected.

As Sakurai stated, he said that Lucario getting TOO buffed will be a detriment in the match, making it really hard to get back on the stage. Despite this, I do think they should reward the player for dealing more damage, rather than rewarding the player for taking damage, ala how Project M does things, and while yes, it probably isn't fair to compare it to a fan project, I'm simply using it as an example.

 

As for Greninja, think about it. In Pokemon X and Y, you're given the choice of a Kalos starter, and a Kanto starter. From what I've seen of the fanbase, people seem to like Froakie and Charmander the most, so it makes complete sense for Greninja to make an appearance, alongside Charizard.

Edited by Nexas, 09 April 2014 - 10:57 PM.

[Moon]

Luigi is what they call a semi-clone.

 

Toon Link is a clone though unless they switch up a decent amount of moves lol.

[thepsynergist]

The one thing I didn't like was Little Mac's charged punch. That is going to be seriously broken. O.O

 

-Strike

It'll be so broken when I use Marth/Chrom to counter it.

[Tree]

I think that we shouldn't count out "clone characters" - after all, we do have Luigi and Toon Link. Mainly Luigi.

Luigi isn't a clone.

 

Also, I don't remember where, but I saw Donkey Kong do a roll attack, like he does in the DKC series. It's probably a running A attack, and I'm very happy about that.

Edited by Tree, 10 April 2014 - 01:02 AM.