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[ShadowTiger]

Spoiler

The lantern is in "level 1," the Desert Temple with all the Lanmolas and Leevers in northwest Kanavas. Toad's dream. Toad is in mudora muck in southwest Hyrule.

[vravelo]

I see some improvements on the excavation " .... lost the guide paper I had for playing this quest!

told me which place to after another one ...I remember a little like....

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Deku tree ....next.......
mushroom hideout
error's mansion
dam
mirage (back to error's)
mines
but this is no accurate -- there is any little guide around ???

[ShadowTiger]

Why is the Deku Tree first?

Spoiler

Mushroom Cave, Kokiri Forest. - Power Glove.
Error's Mansion, Northeast Hyrule. - Bow. Gotta get arrows from a shop, or from a hidden room in western Kokiri Forest.

The Dam, north of Hylia Lake. - Flippers.

Dreameaters Village - The Whistle. At least it's not a dungeon! Get the maze path from a tent in Mudora Muck to the left of the Excavation.

Then Toad's Dream - Kanavas, then Mirage Temple to get the Lamp.

Then EITHER:

• Crystal Mines in Crystalia to unlock the Train Station, which gives you the Hookshot.
• The Crypts in southern Crystalia for the Hammer.

Then to Northeast Hyrule to the Farmer's Dream to get to Storm Tower to get the L2 Power Glove.

Then to the Devouring Forest to get into the Predator beast, and find the ladder.

Then the Hotel in Capital Port to rescue the person who reveals the location of Sea Dog's training room.

Gotta buy the Ice Arrows from the shop in Capital Port at this point. It's mandatory now.

Then Sea Dog's training area in northeast Capital Port.

Then Enigma Castle for the Magic Book.

Then BigGoron's Dream in a cave in northwest Hyrule to get to the Clockwork Volcano. Has the Red Armor very early on if you can find it.

Link's Nightmare in Link's own house in Kokiri Forest. Twilight Realm, Collect two medallions while conquering Link's nightmares and killing weeds, enter Link's Nightmare, find hidden spot under town under a bush, conquer your own nightmares for the second time, enter Marathon Dungeon and collect the Mirror Shield.

Collect everything! Endgame coming up.

Go back to the Deku Tree north/northwest of Kokiri Forest. The rest is up to you.

[vravelo]

Spoiler

The lantern is in "level 1," the Desert Temple with all the Lanmolas and Leevers in northwest Kanavas. Toad's dream. Toad is in mudora muck in southwest Hyrule.

Geez,,! I see everything change,, thanks shadow (I was lost) , still need to carry one relic at a time..? , or can keep several at same time??/ thanks

[ShadowTiger]

I'm still working on that. In between episodes of Game of Thrones, that is.

[bigboylink]

I just started replaying this quest (haven't played it in years, but I loved it way back when and still remember most of the game) and thought I'd post a quick suggestion that occurred to me.

For the boss of the dam, unless I missed an upgrade somewhere, I think the player should arrive at that boss with more than the max of 10 arrows; it's just too easy to run out during that fight (and the 30 arrow drop that appears at the start of the battle disappears after you hit the boss once, so that's not much help.)  Perhaps start the player with 20 arrows when picking up the bow?  (I'm assuming the boss is only vulnerable to the arrow...if that's not the case, then just disregard this paragraph!!)

Anyway, I really like the changes I see so far: starting with a larger wallet, not leaving the forest until you have the glove, moblins (mushrooms) that fire triple rocks/arrows, forcing the player to visit the zora king before entering the dam...great stuff.  The new subscreen/pause-screen is awesome.  Also, good call replacing that first HC piece in the beginning forest with a L2 shield (thus there's no longer a miss-able heart piece).

Now, onto the toad's nightmare / desert for me.
 

[ShadowTiger]

Thanks a bunch for the comments. They're definitely help with the balance. I'm a little bit biased at this point, truth be told. I have to look for places to hide quiver upgrades, particularly early on. I'm thinking of just making them +10 arrows apiece, for a maximum of 100.

I just added another Dmap for extra caves, just in case. It's getting pretty crowded on some maps, while others are scarcely used. The flooded second floor of the Dmap is on its own map. The "switch activated" version of B-1 of Mirage Temple is also on its own map. What a waste. Actually I think that's pretty easy to fix.

[vravelo]

this sound like a noob" question,,,,red lamp and lens of true,, still on the excavations..?? about the fire boomer<<??

appreciate any info,, (know you're busy) -- thanks

[ShadowTiger]

Best boomerang:

Spoiler

You do now need the mirror shield to get it.

From the excavation B-3 arrival spot, keep going left. When you're in the bottom-left corner of the map, you'll see a bunch of red blocks all around you, blocking your path to the chest. You don't need to do anything or use any items to get it. You only need to go to the chest.

Spoiler

You can walk through one of the blocks. It's that simple.

[bigboylink]

Ahhhhh...the L3 sword is no longer where I remember it being located.

I might be mistaken, but in the train station, if you use your first two keys to unlock the way to the hookshot, I think you can get yourself keylocked from progressing any further.  

Just to be sure, I double-checked against Melee Wizard's LP of the quest; in his run, you're only required to use one key to reach the hookshot (the locked door in the SW-most room of B1 with the 8-10 armos); in the updated version of the quest there's an additional key-rock in front of the hookshot chest.

For now I think I'm going to go "borrow" a key from the crypt to continue.

Edited by bigboylink, 27 August 2014 - 09:01 PM.

[vravelo]

Ahhhhh...the L3 sword is no longer where I remember it being located.

I might be mistaken, but in the train station, if you use your first two keys to unlock the way to the hookshot, I think you can get yourself keylocked from progressing any further.  

Just to be sure, I double-checked against Melee Wizard's LP of the quest; in his run, you're only required to use one key to reach the hookshot (the locked door in the SW-most room of B1 with the 8-10 armos); in the updated version of the quest there's an additional key-rock in front of the hookshot chest.

For now I think I'm going to go "borrow" a key from the crypt to continue.

mmm.. I was on that trouble, but walking around (basement) I saw two lamps - flame was blue on one of them and yellow on the other one,, bomb the one with blue flame -- when you came back  it will be open..!!

[ShadowTiger]

Ahhhhh...the L3 sword is no longer where I remember it being located.

Yes it is.

It's now required to trace the entire "chain" of hints up to the final destination. Sort of. You can't just go right to it and get it. It won't be there if only the player knows where to look; Link himself has to know where to look in order for it to actually be there. It's a little ZQuest trick.
 

I might be mistaken, but in the train station, if you use your first two keys to unlock the way to the hookshot, I think you can get yourself keylocked from progressing any further.  

Just to be sure, I double-checked against Melee Wizard's LP of the quest; in his run, you're only required to use one key to reach the hookshot (the locked door in the SW-most room of B1 with the 8-10 armos); in the updated version of the quest there's an additional key-rock in front of the hookshot chest.

For now I think I'm going to go "borrow" a key from the crypt to continue.

Ahh, now that's an interesting thing. I count 5 keys and 5 locks, though. In no particular order:

One key can be found by dropping down a pit in a room whose pit looks like a lockblock key hole.

One key can be found by walking through a south wall in the eastern part of B-1.

One key is attained by returning to F-1 and using the hookshot.

One very obvious key is a screen to the south of the boss key, on the northern side of B-1.

One other obvious key is gotten in the middle of B-1 simply by walking through a shutter to the north.
 

mmm.. I was on that trouble, but walking around (basement) I saw two lamps - flame was blue on one of them and yellow on the other one,, bomb the one with blue flame -- when you came back it will be open..!!

You don't even have to bomb it. The flame counts as a "Fire" enemy. You can just slash it.

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EDIT: Just fixed up a few visual bugs in the 'station. Alright.

[vravelo]

where's that link for this latest updated  quest..?? some info don't match with the one I'm playing right now!!??

[bigboylink]

Yes it is.

It's now required to trace the entire "chain" of hints up to the final destination. Sort of. You can't just go right to it and get it. It won't be there if only the player knows where to look; Link himself has to know where to look in order for it to actually be there. It's a little ZQuest trick.
 

 

Nice.  If I remember correctly, I think the sequence goes:

 

Spoiler

Find a dude in the desert who directs you to the dreameater village.  The dreameaters tell you to dive near the mermaid statue.  I think the particular dreameaters who tell you this are blocked by some boulders that require the gold glove to move, so I guess I'm not getting the sword until level 4-5.  That's cool though, if you get it too early you don't really spend much time with the L2 sword. 

 

Regarding the keys in the train station, if I'm understanding your descriptions correctly, I believe I picked up these two keys:

"One key can be found by dropping down a pit in a room whose pit looks like a lockblock key hole."

"One other obvious key is gotten in the middle of B-1 simply by walking through a shutter to the north."

 

I think the other 3 keys require pressing the first train button (which is behind a locked door).

Edited by bigboylink, 27 August 2014 - 09:52 PM.

[ShadowTiger]

Could have sworn I posted here with this, but I guess I didn't. Wow.

Okay, so you were right. Thanks very much for pointing this out: Instead of taking a chance on what door is unlocked when, I have now blocked off the locked door on F-1 in the map room. It now lies beyond a large bed of spikes that is physically uncrossable without the hookshot, which, again, I was definitely able to get without even entering that room.

Hope you don't mind seeing your name in the credits; you and Ranagus for that bait script.

Damn skippy.