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[ShadowTiger]

Yep. I wrote a ton about it on the ZDoom forums. It's a little easier to describe it in-context, rather than out of the blue here, so, ... there it is. Near the bottom of that page, assuming page numbers are accurate. Clears up a lot of questions, at least in terms of what head-canon can do.

[Fabbrizio]

The last line of your speculation post reminded me to make a pokemon joke.

 

"Though the elements' great guardian shall arise to quell the fighting, alone its song will fail - and thus the world shall turn to Twilight."

Edited by Fabbrizio, 24 November 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Fabbrizio]

So this thread's been dead, which is odd, because season 4 is turning out to be the best season thus far. I think the CMC episode is the one episode thus far that hasn't wowed me with the writing, and honestly, it wowed me with content. The moves they're making have been quite Daring (see what I did thar).

 

Let's take an episode tally.

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Castle-Mania: there are so many great moments in this episode that I really don't know where to start, but let's just take a moment to appreciate that they had the guts to use Fluttershy's actual, legitimate reaction to Angel getting crushed to death, disregarding the fact that Angel ultimately survived. The only comparable moment was Philomena bursting into flames, and let's be honest, the vast majority of kids watching MLP:FiM have probably also seen Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets.

 

Daring Don't: So Daring Do exists in real life, and the books exist only to dissipate any suspicion that she might be real. As if this wasn't a crazy enough turn, they actually manage to pull it off. And they don't go back on it. Most shows in this scenario would be like "oh yeah, we were filming a movie" or some stupid noncommittal ass-pull like that. No. They're not backpedaling. Daring Do is real. Deal with it.

 

Flight to the Finish: Acknowledging Scootaloo's disability. Acknowledging the fact that it may be permanent. Having Scootaloo come to terms with it. The dialogue was awkward, but there's no question: that was a gutsy decision from the writers.

 

Power Ponies: They already tangled in past seasons with Spike's issues; they've deconstructed the implications of his youth and his desire to grow up. They've deconstructed how his sense of self-worth is derived from his abilities as Twilight's assistant. But now that Spike is properly treated as a member of the main cast, they're finally grappling with Spike's 7th wheel status, being (until now) regarded on the same level as Captain Planet's Ma-Ti. In this episode, Spike has an opportunity to finally kick some ass, and it's awesome.

 

Bats!: So aside from the astoundingly awesome musical number, this episode was mostly just your standard epic episode. That is, until the episode ended with a close up shot of Fluttershy still having the fangs, and ending the episode like that. Really hoping this becomes a plot point, because FlutterBat is among the better character re-designs in the canon series.

 

Rarity Takes Manehattan: We've seen a lot of pretty fantastic character deconstructions in the canon series alone, but I think Rarity's in this episode takes the cake simply because it's the first time such a spiral into madness has gone hand in hand with a loss of innocence. The fact that they've actually deconstructed the naivety of one of the mane 6's fundamental talents is pretty astounding (Discord didn't really count, simply because he exists to fuck with them and it's really his job to break them on the core level).

 

Also, the fact that this time Pinkie was the only one NOT breaking the fourth wall.

Applejack: "Rainbow Dash doesn't even like musicals, generally!"

Dash: "Yeah, I mean come on. Randomly bursting into song? Who does that?!"
Rarity: *cue song*

 

Here's hoping for many more amazing episodes.

Edited by Fabbrizio, 05 January 2014 - 01:17 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

My Little Pony, oh Myes!

It is and has always been marketed towards young girls. However, while their new series is still marketed towards young girls, I find it does have qualities that I believe make it an enjoyable show for my son.

Though while this is not a first choice show I would watch with him, it is entertaining. To deny him that entertainment because it's marketed towards girls is a sexist attitude that I would never want to teach my son. Just like how I see no harm in his sister sometimes watching boys shows (which she'll never do because she says they are boys shows. Lol)

Either way, if my boy looks like he is enjoying the show, I see no harm in it, I even pays attention to the episodes and know the characters names. Lol So while I can say I enjoy it, I'll never really ever sit down on my own to watch it.

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 07 January 2014 - 12:33 AM.

[ShadowTiger]

Legends of Equestria is having an open server weekend. When they get around to allowing us to rebind the camera controls, we can use the arrow keys to fly around without looking everywhere simultaneously, but until then, Delete through PgDn is fine for movement.

But really and truly, Cloudopolis is beautiful. Absolutely breathtaking. They really put in a ton of detail into it. It definitely feels like a great place to unwind after a hard day's work or something. I'd put it on par with Dalaran (Music and all) from World of Warcraft.

Seriously. This is amazing. Either that or I have really really low standards. Either way, I'm having a blast just flying around. This is just awesome.

Oh here's a video.

[anikom15]

Oh this show. I have a lot to say about it, but I don't think anyone wants to hear about it.

[DragonDePlatino]

Oh this show. I have a lot to say about it, but I don't think anyone wants to hear about it.

 
Go ahead. As long as it's not an opinion you're regurgitating from someone else, I'm sure some people would listen.

[ShadowTiger]

Everyone's just as entitled to their own opinions as they are to the consequences of declaring their opinions.

If you really feel the need to vent about this particular show, I guess this is as good a place as any to exhibit your well researched viewpoints.

The way I see it, anyone who gets extremely defensive about something they didn't create themselves, is getting defensive for the wrong reasons.

I'm probably way off in that assessment, but that's okay.

[Tree]

Oh this show. I have a lot to say about it, but I don't think anyone wants to hear about it.

As long as you don't make it your sole purpose to piss people off, go right ahead and voice your opinion. I'm sure people will go easy on you. Maybe.

Edited by Tree, 18 April 2014 - 08:27 PM.

[ShadowTiger]

As long as you don't make it your soul purpose to piss people off, go right ahead and voice your opinion. I'm sure people will go easy on you. Maybe.

... seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=squ0qu55JHM


Anyone can say whatever they want. Although that "Freedom of Speech" concept is a real thing, it's perfectly possible to make a lot of people mad at you and not care. It's also entirely possible to state an opinion in an unnecessarily harsh manner, no matter how honest, and watch as people just accept it and move on with their lives, because the opinions of others on things unrelated to you personally aren't that big of a deal.

There's no good reason to control or influence other peoples' opinions about arbitrary things.

I hate the concept of birthday cards, for example. Yet so many people really like them. I can't claim to know the actual number, (and I actually feel it's considerably smaller than I'm making it out to be. ) but even though I probably wouldn't get someone a birthday card, that doesn't mean they should automatically get offended on principle.

I like to think people are better than that these days.

Especially with something like this show. If you just like it because of the animation, writing, characterization, plotlines, themes and settings, and general messages, great. Glad you're enjoying it. But if you see it for the depth that it has, and really get something useful out of it as a decent, amiable human being, than good on you. Good on you.


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On somewhat of a side note, I did just see someone getting banned for being too much of a pest and/or troll by injecting too many negative opinions into a similar thread to this one on the ZDoom forums, and generally overstaying his welcome. It took way too long.

[Tree]

... seriously?

I'm just calling it as I see it. Bronies tend to be WAY too protective of their precious cartoon. I was only giving him a fair warning.

[ShadowTiger]

And if I don't defend it from someone else's opinion, does that make me an Anti-Brony? Or an individual with their own liking? I have somehow managed to meet several people who like the message of the show without liking the show itself. It's the most bizarre thing, and was far outside of the realm of my expectations, to be frank. I'm not even sure how that happens. It's like appreciating a lawnmower without having a lawn to mow.

[Moonbread]

You can certainly say whatever you want about the show, provided it stays within the rules.  However, I will say this much.  Provided you have something negative to say that's more of a rant than an actual point to make, what benefit will it have for you?  What will you achieve from trying to bother people who legitimately just like watching the show and talking about it?  I'm not going to be upset if you don't like it, but it's honestly going to be annoying if the sole sake of it is just that, because it just creates conflict and pointless discussion.  You could walk away and let everyone be, and hey, no one has to get in a tizzy about anything.

 

At this point, I'm not even talking about MLP, but just anything in general.

[anikom15]

Wow. I don't even say anything, positive or negative, and there is already negative feedback. So I'll be brief and voice my opinion, in the hopes of it being useful. I find the show to be, on its face, wholesome, but nevertheless sexist and ultimately a step in the wrong direction for children's programming. Although I can't endorse it, it is certainly not terrible and miles better than many other contemporary cartoons.

[ShadowTiger]

Not entirely sure what part of any of that was negative on this whole page, actually, though my perceptional filters have been a bit off these past few years.

Here's an interview with Lauren Faust, the brains behind the first two seasons, at least, and the general spark behind the show. Points 17, and 23 and onward are where the meat of my point lies, assuming I have a point.

Plus, there's this classic image, with Fyre-Flye being Faust, of course. That, coupled with this amusing image, delivers her point in a small but tidy package.

Besides, I repeatedly hear from my peers that children are growing smarter, apparently. I'm not entirely sure what that means, to be honest, but I haven't really seen a childrens show that attempts to dumb things down, or even be halfway decent in terms of morality to the point of being something Ned Flanders would approve of.

This show here appears to be just that, but adds to it a vertical growth of charm and wit, often extending surprisingly high. There are Big Lebowski Ponies, for example. That link goes beyond that.

There's also the rampant expansion of quality fanworks. I'm not even going to touch upon the flops and the wannabes, but every fandom has them. The quality ones, like Flufflepuff, are just heartwarming when given the chance. It's rare that I actually have an opportunity to shed a tear over a simple webcomic.