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[ShadowTiger]

I'm sorry we don't have a <like> button here. I would very rarely use it, and I'm pretty darn sure I'd very quickly tire of receiving even a few likes, but I would certainly be happy to be able to use it for the purposes of using it on that post, DashSim. Certainly and happily.

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I'm not sure what I'm concerned about, if anything, pertaining to this change. I'm sure lessons will still be presented and learned, which is one of the core reasons I stand by the show. I don't know if we'll still have frequent access to the Library in Ponyville, and I don't know if Twilight will be moving elsewhere. She probably won't. It isn't easy to transplant an entire setting like that. Everything we know is in Ponyville.

A physical transformation has always been my own personal ambition, though one that for obvious reasons will never under any circumstances be able to be achieved. A life dream that will never go realized is a difficult one to live with, and it's all the more reason why I'm glad I'm able to witness this fictional yet monumental occasion to be able to man up to my life lessons and tackle them in a way that I can handle.


... Oh, also, I don't think we were able to save Derpy. o_o The Alicorn transformation rumor came from the same source as the Derpy removal rumor. Eh, we'll see. The point is, we understand the situation in our hearts. That's what's important here, that we learned the lesson, not a fictional character. Derpy is a stepping stool for our own personal growth and understanding.

[Fabbrizio]

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I know this isn't necessarily true since it was posted anon, but I heard an explanation that WOULD make this whole debacle make sense.

yo dawg

Supposedly, Skyla (SA and Cadance's daughter) is set to be coronated, but one of Twilight's spells goes wrong and she accidentally switches Skyla's destiny with her own. This leads to Twilight being coronated as an Alicorn. At first she likes this new future, in which she is of royalty right alongside her mentor. But eventually Aesop kicks in and she starts to feel awful about living out a destiny that is not rightfully hers.

Again, this is 0% confirmed, but I find it very believable, and it matches up perfectly with the synopses we've seen for the episode.

Aside from that, even if this isn't true and Twilight IS a permanent Alicorn, I'm inclined to trust Meghan McCarthy to get it right. Aside from what DashSim mentioned, quite a bit of the fear comes from the fact that people are constantly posting absolutely terrible Alicorn Twi fanfics, to the point where the fandom has a preconceived notion that any attempt by show writers to do the same will have the same sticky end. But they are not fanfic writers. They are professionals,and I believe a bit of trust is in order. If you don't trust the writers to do it right, why do you watch the show at all?

[DashSim]

I'm sorry we don't have a <like> button here. I would very rarely use it, and I'm pretty darn sure I'd very quickly tire of receiving even a few likes, but I would certainly be happy to be able to use it for the purposes of using it on that post, DashSim. Certainly and happily.

*blushie* Have I mentioned how you are the absolute best person I have ever seen at giving compliments? If you were a pony and it were my responsibility to decide who gets what cutie marks, I would give you one representing giving compliments!

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I'm not sure what I'm concerned about, if anything, pertaining to this change. I'm sure lessons will still be presented and learned, which is one of the core reasons I stand by the show. I don't know if we'll still have frequent access to the Library in Ponyville, and I don't know if Twilight will be moving elsewhere. She probably won't. It isn't easy to transplant an entire setting like that. Everything we know is in Ponyville.

Yeah, that's something that makes this interesting to me. And, it's actually the same thing that makes it scary for a lot of people, I think -- there's endless possibility and potential here. Will they move to Canterlot and change the premise of the entire show? Will everything be the exactly same except Twilight has some super neat wings now? Could be either and anything in between! Whatever it is, I'm along for the ride, and I'm looking forward to it.

A physical transformation has always been my own personal ambition, though one that for obvious reasons will never under any circumstances be able to be achieved.

Not to bring things off topic too much, but it's one I'll achieve. <<; It's not becoming an alicorn or anything... but breasts perform roughly the same function as wings anyway right??

... Oh, also, I don't think we were able to save Derpy. o_o The Alicorn transformation rumor came from the same source as the Derpy removal rumor. Eh, we'll see.

Yeah, that's all I don't like about this. It suggests that that particular source was right about everything else. I'm really endeared to Derpy, and she's been treated pretty rough already, and I find it all sort of sad.

I know this isn't necessarily true since it was posted anon, but I heard an explanation that WOULD make this whole debacle make sense.

yo dawg

Supposedly, Skyla (SA and Cadance's daughter) is set to be coronated, but one of Twilight's spells goes wrong and she accidentally switches Skyla's destiny with her own. This leads to Twilight being coronated as an Alicorn. At first she likes this new future, in which she is of royalty right alongside her mentor. But eventually Aesop kicks in and she starts to feel awful about living out a destiny that is not rightfully hers.

Again, this is 0% confirmed, but I find it very believable, and it matches up perfectly with the synopses we've seen for the episode.

Ahh, that makes a lot of sense! I can absolutely see that happening.

Aside from that, even if this isn't true and Twilight IS a permanent Alicorn, I'm inclined to trust Meghan McCarthy to get it right. Aside from what DashSim mentioned, quite a bit of the fear comes from the fact that people are constantly posting absolutely terrible Alicorn Twi fanfics, to the point where the fandom has a preconceived notion that any attempt by show writers to do the same will have the same sticky end. But they are not fanfic writers. They are professionals,and I believe a bit of trust is in order. If you don't trust the writers to do it right, why do you watch the show at all?

Ahh, that's interesting -- Yeah, I've never read any Twilight alicorn fanfiction, so I don't have that hang-up about it, I guess.

I think the only two things I personally would dislike about permanent alicorn Twilight would be 1: it utterly destroys the symmetry of the show staring two earth ponies, two pegasi, and two unicorns, and 2: It means that Twilight might live longer and therefore outlive all of her friends and oh my god that is the saddest thing and HELP I CAN'T NOT THINK ABOUT THIS AAHHH If she's a permanent alicorn then I decide that the mane six and the CMC all eventually get to be alicorns at the end too AND NO ONE CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE

[ShadowTiger]

Long post short, the quintessential summation of the entire ordeal can be found here:

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... Hahahaha ...

[DashSim]

In all fairness I think the quintessential summation of life itself can be found in that video

[ShadowTiger]

I find that to be true with a lot of MLP:FiM content these days, if you know where to look,... or even if you just have to twist it a little. I still think it counts.

Also, Count the pony references.

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I can't...

[ShadowTiger]

Well that was certainly something. Most unexpected.



But so was this:

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I know.

[Smiles the Death Bringer]

Well, the Brony Documentary has officially been cancelled...
Kinda sucks, but I was questioning exactly what they could do with that.

[ShadowTiger]

I thought it was already made. O.o I've seen it. I believe it was canceled due to rampant piracy. Go figure. I think it's mostly the bonus content that was canceled.

In other, though similar news, Mane6's Fighting is Magic was killed off by Hasbro. There are already petitions in place to restore it, and Lauren Faust herself has offered to generate for them some completely new characters to work with.


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EDIT: New Episode content:

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Ohhh MAAAAAAAN That was a great episode. I can't even begin to name why, but it just felt so real; so genuine. It was packed with everything that made an episode great. I loved how it contained the beginning and the end of last week's episode, and tied it all in, even though there wasn't much to tie in. It even had a really nice lesson: To do good regardless of the rewards. In this case, random pony visitor passed on the good to the games inspector. Awesome. <3

[Fabbrizio]

I have such mixed feelings right now. like, what EXACTLY does hasbro have to gain by sniping non-profit fan projects? Are they trying to kill the show's popularity? ...well, we've kind of always known that was their goal. And as for the pirates, did they not expect that there would be a large amount of people getting illegal copies? I mean that's to be expected when you put out ANY sort of video content, or content in general for that matter. How could you not know people would pirate it? Cripes, it's like they've never dealt with anyone over the age of 8... I mean, I know hasbro hasn't before, but this is John DeLancie's project and Star Trek has been pirated to all get out...

[Moonbread]

My favorite thing is when people complain about people pirating it, when I assure you that 99% of them watched the episodes on youtube.

[ShadowTiger]

New ad airing on the Hub.

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[Din]

I can't say I'm part of the pony fandom, but I've seen this same situation many, many times in the past in which the copyright holder decides to put the kibosh on a fan project. And I have to admit, I hate seeing that happen.

Most people know of Square Enix and their tendency to shut down as many fan projects as they can under copyright grounds. There have been countless petitions to revive projects, and the fact of the matter is, it often tends to not work because, no matter how many people are against the shut down of a project, it's ultimately the holder's decision to let them continue or not. If they don't want to see it continue, they don't want to see it continue, and, regardless of the number or content of the signatures, they aren't going to continue.

Obviously I'm not the most unbiased example, because this is a forum where people post their Zelda fangames, but I hate seeing a fan work being shut down. When a fan pours their effort into something and takes the time to perfect it, to share what is essentially a love letter of what said person loves about the franchise, cancelling a project like that, which was made out of love for the holder's product and not intended to threaten said product or attack profit, just feels like getting slapped in the face by one of your biggest role models because you said you loved their work.

Even though I wasn't so much a fan of the game itself, that's why I love and admire Capcom due to the fact that, instead of cancelling a Megaman fangame that qualified in every part for being shut down via copyright infringement, they actually took the time to promote it and show it to the world. Regardless of opinion over the game itself, that's a company with a good heart.

[Fabbrizio]

The way I understand it (or rather the way it was explained to me), is the fact that Fighting is Magic was in the running at Evo placed it into the mainstream and made it a threat to Hasbro's ability to make a copyright claim. Further inaction would essentially be a license unto itself, on account of it simply being allowed to continue despite being a major production. They were in a situation where they had to either license it or kill it, because inaction in this case would mean if they took action in a similar case in the future, Fighting is Magic could be used against hasbro as an example of their inaction and argue that they were presenting a double standard. They HAD to either license it or shut it down, and since having the characters beating the tar out of each other doesn't quite fit MLP's public image, they couldn't in good conscience license it.

For the record, I'm not a legal expert. I don't know if any of this is legit. But I'm willing to buy it if it keeps the fandom from committing mass exodus for the time being.

Edited by DavidReinold, 10 February 2013 - 10:44 PM.