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[The Satellite]

Since this thread ain't about Sonic, I am redirecting it to its original purpose, which is: To complain about Ocarina of Time 3D.

*runs*

Honestly, I've got nothing to complain about. Can't complain until I actually play the game, because everything else I've seen so far looks fantastic. If they make additions, then all that will matter is how they handle those additions. Make 'em seem like they were meant to be there. Not some half-baked attempts at adding content. That's all I'd ask for.

[Jared]

I honestly don't like those new shrubs, specifically the one on the title screen.

[Adem]

Actually, I'm fairly certain that, with a full wallet, all rupees make just an item collect sound. I'd have to play it again, though...

And ZS, you're just exaggerating. I don't think I'd give a crap if one new tree was placed somewhere.

Actually, I seem to recall it was a similar sound, but much more dull.

I agree that it looks amazing. As long as they don't change major plot things, I'm totally okay with it. 'Sides, I think most of the fans that whine about every friggin' detail do it because they want to cause conflict, not because they actually care.

Totally off topic, TS, why is your emoticon an IMG link and not a forum emoticon?

Edited by Rem, 01 November 2010 - 08:09 PM.

[Mitchfork]

Oh God yes, I agree. They are the most spoiled children in the world who can't make up their minds, either. Let's take a look-see.

Majora's Mask got flak for being similar to Ocarina of Time.

Negative Ghost Rider. Majora's Mask gets flak for being, basically, an expansion pack to Ocarina of Time. It wasn't just similar; it was almost a ROM hack of OoT. That doesn't mean it's not an awesome game, it just means that it owes a lot to the success of OoT, and for that reason I can't say that it's a better game.

Wind Waker got flak for being too apart from Ocarina of Time.

Only in the art style department, which I find very understandable even if I don't agree with the hate that it got at launch (I think opinion towards it now is fairly good). Otherwise Wind Waker is critiqued on its own merits and shortcomings, and it has a lot of both in my opinion.

Twilight Princess got hyped and everyone thought it would be amazing- and then got flak for being similar to Ocarina of Time.

If I recall correctly, Twilight Princess was critiqued for not living up to OoT's legacy (still a silly argument) not that it was too similar.

NOW OCARINA OF TIME IS GOING TO BE TOO SIMILAR TO OCARINA OF TIME OH NOOOOOOO

If it's a game you love, you want to see remake designers pay a lot of respect to it... but you also want them to do things that original designers didn't have the resources or time to do. Think about Master Quest; that's an example of a great remake. Definitely distinguishable from the original, but still left things alone where they needed to be.

Ocarina of Time 3DS: As much as I tend to scoff at remakes, if there's any Zelda game that deserved it, it's this one.

[The Satellite]

You do realize, Eb, that pretty much that entire post is just your own opinion... D:

To be honest, if any game deserves a remake the most, it'd be the first Zelda, even though I love OoT more. I mean, really, the first game ever that started the legacy? Needs to be recognized a little more, especially by this generation. Even if a remake would extremely dumb-ify it...

Totally off topic, TS, why is your emoticon an IMG link and not a forum emoticon?

It's from a different site is why. I might think about converting it... Wouldn't know what to put it up as though.

[Mitchfork]

This entire thread is just our opinions. I just thought that Prospekt was simplifying things to an extreme level in his post.

Edit: As awesome as the original Zelda is, I don't think it's a game that has aged well... it's really obvious that it had to deal with significant technology limitations. That's a lot of what makes it a classic, but a remake of the game would either feel the same and not be worth it (we have Zelda Classic after all) or be so different that it wouldn't really be a remake.

Spiritually I think that Oracle of Seasons would actually be an LoZ remake....

[Nicholas Steel]

You do realize, Eb, that pretty much that entire post is just your own opinion... D:

To be honest, if any game deserves a remake the most, it'd be the first Zelda, even though I love OoT more. I mean, really, the first game ever that started the legacy? Needs to be recognized a little more, especially by this generation. Even if a remake would extremely dumb-ify it..

It was already remade with new dungeon layouts and such, BS Zelda. Its playable on various SNES emulators.

[The Satellite]

I actually wasn't referring to the BS Zeldas at all. Those don't count, since they were too exclusive and weren't released widespread commercially.

No, seriously, though, I personally would be fine if they did some aesthetic overworld editing, maybe redesign a few parts of it as long as it retains the same feel. But really, like I said, I won't be able to pass judgment on it until the actual game is released and I see it for myself.

[Koh]

I agree that the first Zelda Should be remade, even if it's only a graphical, audio and engine updates. Ocarina of Time is epic and all, but there wouldn't be one without the first one, which is ONLY available for the NES, GBA, and VC, with all versions still 8-bitty.

[Jared]

While OoT had:

3 (?) N64

3 Gamecube (Including the 2-game master Quest bundle)
And 1 Wii (VC)

So 7 OoT ports altogether. Wow.

[The Satellite]

Your math is wrong. Those weren't ports on the N64, those were just newer versions with some edits, mostly glitch fixing and the heinous Fire Temple music replacement. (That is, the new one is heinous, the old one wins.) And there were only two on Gamecube: The Collector's Edition one and the Master Quest bundle, the latter I only count as one port.

So no, it's technically only been ported three times: To GCN twice and Wii's VC once. The N64 ones? Not ports.

[Mitchfork]

Though with the exception of Master Quest none of those have added gameplay content. This will be the first true "remake" of Ocarina of Time; that is, physically starting from scratch and not reusing models and textures.

[Chakaa]

Your math is wrong. Those weren't ports on the N64, those were just newer versions with some edits, mostly glitch fixing and the heinous Fire Temple music replacement. (That is, the new one is heinous, the old one wins.)

I always thought I had the original music on my N64 cartridge, I guess I had the edited one. I just heard the original for the first time, it's so creepy, I like it .

Edit: I think it fits the Shadow Temple much more than the Fire Temple.

Edited by FefeRawft, 03 November 2010 - 09:13 PM.

[Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder]

So, I'm wondering why they haven't done something like this:

Original:


My crappy Photoshop-edit:


My skills with the shop aren't that good, and I didn't exactly spend a lot on time on this... plus, I think I overdid it a little too, but either way, it'd be nice if they tried doing something similar, as it really makes the field seem a lot larger than it is. *shrugs*

Either way, I do think the graphics are looking nice, but... I just can't help but feel that they should have gone a little further, especially seeing as the 3DS is most likely more than powerful enough.

[The Satellite]

If you're referring to the cloudiness from the original N64, that was graphical limitations: It always blurred what was in the background, and some objects didn't show up until you got close to them. With the power of the 3DS, that limitation is a thing of the past now; you don't see it Twilight Princess.