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#226 Anthus

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 09:34 PM

Of course if you're already getting the system for Nintendo's 1st party stuff, the multiplatform things would just be a bonus for you.

This is pretty much me. I have a PC, but I really don't play many actual games outside of emulators, and the occasional Steam game, and obviously ZC.

Having a portable system like this is a huge hook, and as LTM said, seems to be their focus.

I'm starting to think this might be genius actually. Nintendo already owns the handheld console market. If they can generate enough initial sales to keep developers interested, they could be building a gold mine. People would love a conviently portable COD, or Fallout, or Skyrim, right?
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Posted 21 October 2016 - 09:48 PM

It could be, but how many people do you think actually fall into that category?  Most of the gaming with games like that is done at home with their beer or whatever, lol.  And skype/discord sessions in team based things like that.

 

This is why I'm emphasizing the importance of what kind of 3rd party exclusives they'll bring, as those will be the real seller on whether or not people would buy the system for those games.  Games they can't get anywhere else but on the Switch, but also not from Nintendo's 1st party lineup.

 

For example, think 3D Dot Game Heroes on PS3.  I still want that thing myself, but that's a great exclusive on the PS3 not available anywhere else, and also not a 1st party title, and was critically acclaimed.  If they can get a bunch of stuff like that, that would more incline people to buy a Switch than multiplatform titles only for third party support, or largely multiplatform titles.



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:02 PM

I think a lot of people fall into the category of wanting it, or at least would be willing to give something like that a chance. I think the Wii U died the second people realized the tablet controller wasn't portable beyond a few yards lol. But this is different.

I don't think Nintendo really needs 3rd party exclusives cause they have 1st party exclusives that people still buy, and that aren't available anywhere else. Coupling that with portability, and other companies porting new, and old games could get a lot of people interested.
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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:09 PM

Well, Nintendo already has its exclusives to leverage. While it's anecdotal, I know a good amount of people who like Nintendo games and prefer their exclusives over the ones on PS4 and XBO, but they could not justify the Wii U because they would only be playing Nintendo games on it. While the Wii U had an extensive list of high quality first party titles, it was the lack of the multiplatform titles was one the things that killed it since a there are a huge number of popular multiplatform titles that the Wii U just didn't get. So, if Nintendo is able to secure the multiplatform market, it could make a huge difference.

 

And, if this is the merger of Nintendo's handheld and console markets (I still doubt that personally), they have the huge 3rd party exclusive market that will come from the 3DS.

 

The main problem will be if this is too little too late, though. I think that's one of the biggest uphill battles Nintendo is going to face.


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:19 PM

Plus 3D Dot Heroes is a blatant Zelda rip-off. Albeit, a fun, and creative one. :P

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 12:28 AM

Looks like dual-screen setup via Wii U won't be a thing.



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 12:38 AM

 

Hence:

 

It definitely looks like the death of motion controls and touch screen functionality. You can't access the tablet screen while it is docked/while playing on the TV and barring any motion enabled controllers there's no motion control support either while the tablet is docked. So it wouldn't make sense to support these features in games since they'd only work when not playing on the TV.



#233 The Satellite

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 12:47 AM

I mean, it certainly was a possibility it could still stream to the dock wirelessly within range, but that one's shot down now.



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 06:15 AM

Well, Nintendo already has its exclusives to leverage. While it's anecdotal, I know a good amount of people who like Nintendo games and prefer their exclusives over the ones on PS4 and XBO, but they could not justify the Wii U because they would only be playing Nintendo games on it. While the Wii U had an extensive list of high quality first party titles, it was the lack of the multiplatform titles was one the things that killed it since a there are a huge number of popular multiplatform titles that the Wii U just didn't get. So, if Nintendo is able to secure the multiplatform market, it could make a huge difference.

 

And, if this is the merger of Nintendo's handheld and console markets (I still doubt that personally), they have the huge 3rd party exclusive market that will come from the 3DS.

 

The main problem will be if this is too little too late, though. I think that's one of the biggest uphill battles Nintendo is going to face.

Possibly, I think it'll depend on the capabilities of the Switch at this point, for that to work.  Just how underpowered is it compared to everything else?  While they have several companies behind them 3rd party wise, some of those companies are still pretty keen on having the best possible graphics on whatever, and don't want to have to downgrade anything for the system to handle.  And considering the system's intentions, something has to be sacrificed for it to be the hybrid it intends to be.



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 10:31 AM

I'm disappointed because I got a Wii U last christmas, and now it's going to be obsolete


Don't worry, the Switch will probably follow suit soon enough. Lol

I may sound like I'm attacking Nontendo, but I don't think their core problems have changed to the slightest. Nintendo consoles aren't worthy investments post 2010.

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 11:10 AM

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 01:14 PM

It's interesting to me how Nintendo is perceived as a company which struggles to see success in spite of three of their last four systems being successful, two of them being their most successful ever, their last major product launch (Amiibo) doing crazy numbers, their next launch (NES Classic) looking to do the same, and having a new major system launch lined up that was obviously built after taking a sober look at their one recent failure and addressing its issues in a logical, clear-eyed way.

 

The perception of importance of the home console is strong in the west. No one sees Sony's game division as struggling to achieve success because of the Vita. It's fascinating how deeply one's reputation is tied to The Console.

 

I imagine that if the situation were flipped - everything they've done recently a failure except for a market-leading Wii U (which would certainly be a much more dire situation for them) - their perception would be more positive.

 

This isn't to say that Wii U's failure isn't significant for them (it is), or that Switch is a guaranteed success (no matter how good things look now - and they do look pretty good - anything can happen, any ball can be dropped). It's that Switch bombing would make it more of an outlier than part of the norm, and their reputation doesn't reflect that, is my observation.


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:03 PM

 

No more info this year?? :(



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:04 PM

I don't have too much of an opinion on the Switch right now. The whole system is gorgeous and modern. I'm both happy and sad on how they're getting rid of the second screen though. It's good they're finally changing back, but at the same time, it was really a great aspect, like aiming and stuff like menus for Zelda. I guess we're saving it for the 3DS now? I'm also wondering if the gamepad will be usable with certain games, like BoTW on NSwitch. 

 

Also, I must chime in. Why does everything have to turn into a giant argument? I understand it to a certain degree, but starting these hot headed conversations just really bothers me. Can't you guys be positive about anything? Jeez. It gets old to see the negativity on this site in almost every single thread.

 

More happy, less fighty.


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#240 Cukeman

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 03:24 PM

I don't think there's been anything beyond fair debate here. Just people sharing their differing reactions. I may be down on the NS compared to others, but that doesn't mean I'm telling others they can't love it, and my plan to buy one hasn't been eradicated. I do see the logic of questioning the value of PC titles on the NX, since I can't imagine living without a PC in today's world, heck I HAVE to have one just to get schoolwork done.


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