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[Adem]

I think it'd be fun to have Epona as Young Link. Keeping my fingers crossed.

[The Satellite]

I think it would be, too. I'd like a faster means of traversing Hyrule Field as a child, apart from warping. To be honest, I like taking the "long" way in OoT, but it's the only Zelda game I do so with. So this would just make things more fun for me.

Are you saying you can leave the courtyard where Zelda and Impa are standing without first learning Zelda's Lullaby from Impa?...

Then yeah, what's more significant is that you're skipping Zelda's Lullaby; it's not quite the same as full-on sequence breaking.

Well, no, I wasn't implying that it was sequence-breaking, just that you could get Epona's Song as early as that. And no, I don't mean leaving the courtyard where Zelda and Impa are standing without first learning Zelda's Lullaby from Impa *takes deep breath*. I mean, after you wake up Talon, then you can pretty much go and get Epona's Song (I think, not 100% positive), but it'd be stupid because you're just outside the castle.

Even if you can't get it before Zelda's Lullaby in that manner, you definitely can immediately after learning Zelda's Lullaby. In fact, that's always the first thing I do after learning the lullaby: Go straight to the Ranch and learn Epona's Song.

[Dawnlight]

This is small, but who would want a Cave of Ordeals in OOT3DS? WW and TP had one and it quite challenging. I even did a dare devil move and tried to complete it with just one heart.

[Chakaa]

I would love a Cave of Ordeals in OoT3D, that's a great idea.

[The Satellite]

I would have to agree, but there's not as much variety in the enemies, unless they code new ones. Though I wouldn't mind seeing someone taking on two Iron Knuckles at once...

[Sir Evan]

I'm jumping back to an older discussion here, but I wanna give my take on the dungeons. While some of them are awesome, others are just downright boring. Here we go:

Inside the Deku Tree: Starting off on a happy note, this dungeon sucks. It's boring, short, and way too easy even for a first dungeon. Seriously, if the any dungeon can be beaten in under 15 minutes, there is something seriously wrong with it. Also, the slingshot. Oh god, the slingshot. Horrible item, and has about five uses in the game. After you get the boomerang a little bit latter, I see no reason to ever use the slingshot again. So yeah, get a new item here. And then scrap the whole dungeon and make a new one.

Dodongo's Cavern: I guess I don't have any problems with this one. It's not the greatest, and it feels a little slow-paced and boring, but I'm okay with it. At least it didn't have the slingshot.

Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly: Not that great, but not horrible. It looked rather bad, graphically, in my opinion. The entire place was varying shades of pink. It lacked any real, good puzzles. The strange tentacle things were about all that there was, and there was only three of them. I see it as a bad sign that there is another Jabu-Jabu dungeon that was better than this one. Seriously, feel bad when there are two dungeons of the same name, and you have the worse one. Huh, I just realized. I must have a thing against dungeons inside living creatures.

Light Temple: Hahahahahahahaha.

Forest Temple: Perfect dungeon. Don't change a single thing, Nintendo.

Fire Temple: Meh. Don't really care. Never really loved it, but can't think of anything wrong with it. Maybe add a shortcut that you can open if you fall all the way back down from the top floor. And re-addding the original music would be nice.

Ice Cavern: Ice Temple, please.

Water Temple: Make it harder. I'm dead serious, make all the little kiddies cry about it. An even longer and harder (:awesome) Water Temple would make this game perfect. Even if the just added 7 Deku Trees as the other dungeons.

Karkariko Well: Actually quite liked this. Was a nice segue into the Shadow Temple.

Shadow Temple: Another great dungeon. Don't oats with it. You can add some more rooms to make it less short, but don't change what's already there.

Spirit Temple: One of the better dungeons, but not my favorite. I would have actually liked a bit more of a desert theme, and maybe add some more enemies (it might just be me, but I thought it seemed rather barren.) Mirror shield puzzles were great, however. Preferably, add more.

Wind Temple: Use less of the blowing fans. Make it clearer that the Hover Boots resist the wind. Use more of the Roc's Cape, but less of the annoying miss-a-jump-and-fall-back-to-the-first-floor areas. See Wind Waker's Wind Temple for a good example. Oh wait.

So that's what I'd do to make the game better. Probably upset some people, but I couldn't care less.

[Moonbread]

I pretty much agree with that list, except the Spirit Temple was my favorite. It was probably the music for it, though. But yeah, especially Jabu Jabu- the tentacles were so pointless because there was no complicated strategy, or even ANY strategy needed, to kill them. Throw boomerang a few times and it's dead.

I don't agree that the Deku Tree needs a new item- I think the slingshot suits it fine, and hey, there are indeed combat uses for it too. I like taking out those pesky fire bats in the main room on the 2nd floor in Dodongo's Cavern with it. The boomerang only goes so far, is hard to aim with, and at most, stuns most enemies, while the slingshot deals damage.

[The Satellite]

Eh, the Well wasn't so great. You just run in, turn off the water, go grab the Lens, run out. They should've made it so that you were forced to go into more rooms first. And personally, the Shadow Temple wasn't as scary as I had hoped. Maybe the 3D will atone for that...

[trucky5]

Personally, I would love the well if they replaced it with the well from Master's Quest. the Master's Quest one was SOOO hard! It was awesome and a lot of fun to beat. Just my opinion though

[Radien]

I think it would be absolutely excellent if they added in the dungeons that they never finished in the original OoT. It's possible that they'll decide not to because they think they can just ride on the popularity of the original OoT without making any big additions (pfeh), but I'm hoping they don't have that mindset.

Specifically, I think they should add a Light Temple and Ice Temple for sure, and possibly also an Earth Temple. But Dodongo's Cavern is pretty earthy, despite the lava, so at least they had a little bit of the earth theme. The Ice Cavern really needs to be expanded, though, and the Light Temple could be made to reference Twilight Princess.

As for Inside the Deku Tree: that was a player introduction not just to OoT, but full 3D action/adventure gaming in general. Nintendo was being careful and taking baby steps when they made it. Yes, perhaps they should step it up a notch since they can't expect the players to amuse themselves by staring at the ceiling and backflipping and stuff. 3D is no longer a new novelty.

I would have to agree, but there's not as much variety in the enemies, unless they code new ones. Though I wouldn't mind seeing someone taking on two Iron Knuckles at once...

They have to recode all the old ones, so hey, why not?...

And yeah, I'd love a Cave of Trials/Ordeals. And I can totally see them adding one. Playing through one is practically like a combat playtesting arena, anyway. As long as the enemies are well-coded, there's not much else they need to create.

[Adem]

Honestly, I know the Deku Tree inside and out, so it'd be really nostalgic for me if they kept it relatively the same, which is how I'd prefer it.

I don't think they'd change only a few dungeons, if any. I would like a Light Temple and Wind Temple though. Even if they were optional, I'd be nice to have something new like that.

[Dawnlight]

I hope Adult Link can use boomerangs. It was the most unused weapon in the game because of its exclusivity to Young Link.

[SpacemanDan]

Heh, even as young Link, I never used the boomerang, but it would make more sense if adult Link could use it. I never found it useful, personally.

I'm with Rem on this one; I hope they add in the stuff they intended to the first time around. Optional or not.

[Radien]

I hope Adult Link can use boomerangs. It was the most unused weapon in the game because of its exclusivity to Young Link.

I agree. If they make it multi-target like in TP, it'll have its uses, whether or not Young Link can use the hookshot.

Also, part of the reason it became so unused is because it was found in the last major Young Link dungeon. The hookshot is supposed to be the Adult Link equivalent, but the two items aren't really as similar as the slingshot/bow and arrow are. The difference is accentuated in WW and TP.

I don't mind the existence of the slingshot. But I don't see any reason for items to become unusable as Adult Link. What, are his hands too big or something?... Doesn't seem to bother him in TP, where the slingshot and the bow are coexisting items...

Heh, even as young Link, I never used the boomerang, but it would make more sense if adult Link could use it. I never found it useful, personally.

Did this have anything to do with the fact that the camera went all wonky when you used it, it was very hard to aim, and it flew really slowly compared to the other long-range items?

A fast-moving, easy-to-aim boomerang that homes in on enemies like in WW and TP could be extremely useful.

[Chakaa]

I never understood why Deku Sticks magically became useless as Adult Link. You can still get them from Deku Babas, but can't use them.