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[The Satellite]

Well, supposedly, this "Other World" in ALBW may not actually be the Dark World of ALttP as well, just an alternate dimension and its own kingdom. The "alternate kingdom" part was confirmed at least. Supposedly without his evil influence the Dark World would have been cleansed, so either it's not the Dark World or something else bad happened to the Sacred Realm, or the residents of the Dark World just created their own kingdom. I dunno, could be any of these things.

[Koh]

It's Holodrum!  *runs*

Totally would love to see some connection there...

Edited by Koh, 15 August 2013 - 05:06 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

I'm pretty sure the other world isn't quite The Dark World.

Nintendo has been adding other realms in the Zelda series because they now feel like its one of those things that are true to the Zelda formula. But that doesn't necessarily mean any of these other worlds have any connection to the Evil Realm. It could be that because we favour the Evil Realm is why we expect all these dimensions to be, but I feel Nintendo wants to be as diverse with this concept as they do with the various tribes Link meets in every journey.

The Gerudos did not return for the same reason the Zora's hasn't made much of an appearance. To save room for new tribes to exist with each games (the Gorons is a strange exception).

But with this understanding, it is my belief that Nintendo Intended for the Evil Realm to be destroyed or simply never to be revisited to allow other realms to be introduced, such as the Twilight and Silent Realms.

[Nicholas Steel]

At the end of LttP Link wishes for everything to return to normal, the Triforce accomplishes this by creating a new world that Link is comfortable with, without destroying the former world. Presumably the Triforce can't be properly taken between worlds so it had left a shadow of it self in the Golden Land.

 

This is my theory.

Edited by franpa, 16 August 2013 - 02:24 AM.

[TheLegend_njf]

I'd like to know your sources for that information.

Now that I think about it, did Link even make a wish at the end of ALTTP? I just thought all the text that was listed in the ending like the King recovering and the flute boy plays again was all part of his wish (or wishes).

After doing some research, it seems to me his exact wish was unknown, and it was never fully determined if he even made a wish at all. But Link's encounter with the Triforce resulted in both the Light World and the Dark World reverting to its former state that was before Ganon's influence. What I find most interesting now that I looked it up. It would seem that Link wished to reverse time to the beginning of the game, but this time Ganon did not exist because he was dead, perhaps to give Hyrule a second chance. If that were the true canon wish, than the title makes a lot more sense now.

Link made A Wish to the Past.. Lol

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 15 August 2013 - 11:54 PM.

[Moonbread]

So what you're asking is, "Did Link make a wish because of the wish he made at the end of the game?" 

 

...That's literally what you just said, cutting out the parts about the king and flute boy.

[The Satellite]

Meanwhile, I just realized the possibilities for this game's title. Now if you'll excuse me, time to write some bad Zelda fanfiction. I'll call it, "The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Girls."

 

I am so fired.

[TheLegend_njf]

So what you're asking is, "Did Link make a wish because of the wish he made at the end of the game?" 
 
...That's literally what you just said, cutting out the parts about the king and flute boy.

Not even close to what I said.

So I'll say it again. We don't know if Link made a wish or not, we just assume he did because the Triforce reverted the world to the way it was before Ganon and Aghanim. It's fair to say that it is an accurate assumption because why else would the Triforce do that? But I don't think there is enough evidence to actually prove a wish was made, but it is very probable that he did make a wish.

[Shane]

The Triforce's only use is to make a wish, so I fail to see why people would think he did not make a wish.

 

Of course, the Triforce also images the Sacred Realm with one's heart, but Link's world isn't the Sacred Realm, so therefore, it's safe to say that Link did make a wish to restore life before all the bad typical villain stuff happened.

[Hoff123]

It's Holodrum!  *runs*

Hey, what about Subrosia?

Edited by Hoff123, 16 August 2013 - 09:01 AM.

[TheLegend_njf]

Nothing in the series ever indicated that granting wishes was the Triforce's purpose. The ability to grant wishes is a power the Triforce does have, but the actual true nature of what the Triforce can do and the purpose in which it was created isn't fully understood.

The other things we do know about the Triforce is that it transforms the Sacred Realm to reflect the heart of the person who touches it, and also the plot hole where the Triforce splits when somebody who is not pure with Power, Courage, and Wisdom. (Because it says only the King had all three in balance that I would recall but I am not certain). I call this a plot hole because I never seen this idea reused in any other Zelda game sense, other than the fact Link seems to always inherit the Triforce of Courage the next 4 or 5 games after.

I believe that the true potential and purpose of the Triforce can be much more, but I don't have any evidence to support that theory either.

But clearly, it's purpose being limited to granting wishes was never confirmed and thus leaves the possibility of it doing more.

[Russ]

I call this a plot hole because I never seen this idea reused in any other Zelda game sense, other than the fact Link seems to always inherit the Triforce of Courage the next 4 or 5 games after.

Wind Waker. The Triforce is still split as a result of Ganondorf touching it while out of balance, and a good deal of the plot revolves around him trying to gather up the other two pieces again to make that wish he was promised. So I'd hardly call it a plot hole. And even if it were never reused, just because an idea only shows up once doesn't mean it's a plot hole.

[TheLegend_njf]

Good point! Plot hole is a poor choice of words. But I feel this slight sensation that the entire split Triforce thing was an interesting idea, and probably just a concept used to explain why Ganon had the Triforce of Power in Zelda 1 and the cartoon (yes, sorry for bringing up the cartoon. Lol).

I really felt they were on to something, but the idea never ever grew any serious structure other than explaining why Link and Ganon were always considered above all (even Hyrule's military). Twilight Princess demonstrated what powers Ganon received by being blessed by the Gods (the holder of the Triforce of power).

But I guess the reason why I call it a plot hole is because of questions like why didn't the Triforce split when Ganon got the Triforce in ALTTP? If Link's inherited trait is Courage, why was he so easily able to touch it in every Zelda game in which he has?

Seriously, despite the fact this concept did carry through to Wind Waker (despite me being wrong earlier about it), it still feels like it was a concept that was originally created for no other purpose than to be an interesting plot twist for OOT.

[The Satellite]

But I guess the reason why I call it a plot hole is because of questions like why didn't the Triforce split when Ganon got the Triforce in ALTTP?

Supposedly, according to the new official timeline, that was because he'd killed Link in that timeline at the end of OoT and acquired his and Zelda's Triforce pieces to make it whole again.

[TheLegend_njf]

You just blew my mind!

I feel like I should have already known that.