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[TheRock]

@TheRock: Yes, I've obtained all of those too.

@Useless Old Man Wisdom: Can you expand on where those diveable spots are? I think I haven't found any HPs in water, only money. I did find one piece inside a cave diving in water and in Karmah Mines, but I don't recall doing so in the overworld.

 

Dive warp here.

 

Here.

 

And maybe this one?

A list of all heart pieces locations(Some have 2 spots in this you can get them in because there're two version of the same screen).

 

Edited by TheRock, 26 November 2024 - 11:22 AM.

[Useless Old Man Wisdom]

 

This is the essence of a really good block puzzle: compact, not a whole lot of moving parts, way harder than it looks at first glance, and even easy to mess up when you know how to solve it. But where oh where have I seen this before?

 

 

 

 

 

@Useless Old Man Wisdom: Can you expand on where those diveable spots are? I think I haven't found any HPs in water, only money. I did find one piece inside a cave diving in water and in Karmah Mines, but I don't recall doing so in the overworld.

 

See The Rock's last post for screencaps. I'm almost certain those are the locations for the dive-warp cave HCPs I was thinking of.

Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 09 January 2024 - 12:34 AM.

[TheRock]

 

This is the essence of a really good block puzzle: compact, not a whole lot of moving parts, way harder than it looks at first glance, and even easy to mess up when you know how to solve it. But where oh where have I seen this before?

 

 

 

 

 

 

See The Rock's last post for screencaps. I'm almost certain those are the locations for the dive-warp cave HCPs I was thinking of.

Oh, Sans took that? I didn't know that. It gets used two more times in the game because he really likes that puzzle.

[Noire]

Indeed i liked that puzzle. That kind of puzzle was fitting for at least 2 dungeons. Heck, i've even made a harder, and a vertical varient of this puzzle in a certain post game dungeon.

[Useless Old Man Wisdom]

In case it looks I was being accusatory or something, I wasn't, because I really believe that good ideas deserve to be reused. I just wanted to give another shout out to Project Storm.

[Demonlink]

@The Rock, thank you! I indeed was missing one in the desert, thought I was done there. I also missed one in Cursed Woods and in Moonlight Ruins. Now I'm up for the boss rush before tackling Lvl 12.

[Mani Kanina]

In case it looks I was being accusatory or something, I wasn't, because I really believe that good ideas deserve to be reused. I just wanted to give another shout out to Project Storm.

Thanks, I spent a lot of time on it.

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The Puzzle actually predates Project Storm even, I created it for Legend of Lana DX. It rests in everyone's favourite optional dungeon: Cube Enigma. I doubt anyone would remember it from there though, that dungeon is just a progression of harder and harder block puzzles and is completely optional.

Edited by Mani Kanina, 09 January 2024 - 08:27 PM.

[Demonlink]

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So, I just beat the main game on hard mode. I might progress further into the post game content, but I do have some points to share:

1.- The final boss (Arthos) is a big let down in terms of gameplay, I felt it was more of a bullet hell instead of an actual boss. I also felt it was pretty unfair the quick (and mostly unavoidable damage) that you can get, even for hard mode. I tried a few times to beat it with a potion, but given you have a small space and rapid fire everywhere, I decided to cheat myself to the end by refillng my health each time I was about to die since there is nowhere to defend yourself. The concept was cool, I'll admit. The warning tiles should have a longer timeout rate to actually give you time to go to the space where the laser won't fire, I was on the other extreme of the arena that barely gave me any time to react. I strongly suggest refilling the player's health before starting the final boss, and maybe take it easier on the hell fire?

2.- Same goes for the Boss Rush, normal mode on hard mode isn't doable with the red tunic and Lvl. 3 Sword, I barely made it to the boss of Level 4 with this equipment. I felt it was more fair going through with the cosmic tunic and the Lvl. 4 sword. Just finished it and obtained the Hyper Slingshot.

3.- Level 13 was a complete nightmare. I love dungeons the size of a labryinth, and more if it feels like a maze, but I think this dungeon could need some redesign in some areas. At first, it wasn't clear on how you actually progress, but I figured it out after some thinking; a minor hint could make this clearer for other players. However, I did feel this was humongous to the point of frustration, it did take me a few hours to clear this one.

So, I'll call it a day for today and I'll share my progress on Tower of Heavens. Is there another shield upgrade? Is there any more exploration I need to do before tackling the Tower?

Edited by Demonlink, 10 January 2024 - 02:02 PM.

[Useless Old Man Wisdom]

Level 12 was a complete nightmare.

 

 

I'm still not sure what to think of level 12. I completed the dungeon, in about 75 minutes and without any real hangups, yet I have no idea how I did it. Somehow, the place flows very intuitively and made enough sense to progress smoothly, even though the phase warping and map-rotation gimmick of the place made little to no sense to me. The logic of the place and what the different warp tiles do - exactly - seemed to fly out the window in the "third" area accessed after unlocking the first three key blocks. What sort of sorcery is that place?

Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 10 January 2024 - 02:04 AM.

[TheRock]

But level 12 is a gimmick carry. It's a puzzle are how you move through the dungeon to solve puzzles at it's greatest. The warps have 4 effects. Rotate to the right, the left, flip the positions, and stay the same. This is one reason for giving the Map at the beginning of the dungeon to help the player know what's going on.

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So, I'll call it a day for today and I'll share my progress on Tower of Heavens. Is there another shield upgrade? Is there any more exploration I need to do before tackling the Tower?

No shield upgrade. So you have everything I believe. 

[Demonlink]

@TheRock. Sorry, I meant level 13, the Dream Realm. Level 12 was indeed an interesting design, I loved the idea.

[TheRock]

@TheRock. Sorry, I meant level 13, the Dream Realm. Level 12 was indeed an interesting design, I loved the idea.

I put the sign to help with that. That's also tied for favorite dungeon in the game for me with level 10. . That dungeon has 3 sections. Once you complete one of them you never need to go back to it. The map is super useful in that dungeon. Going to the + whenever you see one is a good tip.

 

Original layout: 

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Edited by TheRock, 10 January 2024 - 03:36 PM.

[PlotArmorSmith]

I am having trouble trying to lower some red blocks in a room in level 13 and wanted to know if there is a trick to lower the blocks or if they should have lowered after I defeated the enemies. If there is a trick, a hint would be appreciated. The room is found from the start by going right once and down once to the red warp. Then after warping going right twice, (through a red key block) then up once, right once and down once. I am using 2.53.

[TheRock]

I am having trouble trying to lower some red blocks in a room in level 13 and wanted to know if there is a trick to lower the blocks or if they should have lowered after I defeated the enemies. If there is a trick, a hint would be appreciated. The room is found from the start by going right once and down once to the red warp. Then after warping going right twice, (through a red key block) then up once, right once and down once. I am using 2.53.

Look at the fences.

[matski]

I am currently stuck in level 6.  I need to find a underground pathway in order to get to an area where I can use a lock and it will open up the path to (I think) the master key.  I can't find this staircase.  

I already lit all of the fire in the room where there is three staircases. To the room in the left, I do not know how to get to the top-left area nor do I know how to use the dungeon item to bomb the cracked pillar.  Can someone give me any hints?