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#151 Moon

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 08:44 PM

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Edited by Yoshidude, 27 April 2011 - 06:59 AM.


#152 Theryan

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:14 PM

You should add a chimney or something to the roof. Anything to make it a little less blank.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 11:50 PM

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#154 Evile

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 02:20 AM

Yoshidude/Despair:
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Edited by Evile, 27 April 2011 - 02:28 AM.


#155 Neppy

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 04:28 AM

QUOTE(Evile @ Apr 27 2011, 02:20 AM) View Post

Yoshidude/Despair:
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Not exactly liking what I am seeing here... Looks like certain screens are just modified versions from Despair, Yoshidude... This honestly can't just be coincidence here. It's one thing to base screens off of another, and then it's another thing to dang near copy a screen, let alone 2 screens for another persons work. Yes, they have their differences, but not enough to justify them as being new screens. I highly suggest, that if you are copying or slightly modifying more screens like what's been done here, that you stop...

#156 Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 04:36 AM

QUOTE(Lynker @ Apr 23 2011, 04:54 AM) View Post
I really like it, Moo2wo!
Can't complain about anything, meaning it's perfect!
I can't wait for what you're making to come out! icon_biggrin.gif

Edit - My finished map!

http://img196.images.../zelda003im.png

What do you guys think? Ignore the ugliness around it xD It was fun to make.
Something I noticed, why are you putting underlayers (cut bushes, cut grass and so on) on a layer?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't bushes only work if they're on Layer 0? Besides, you don't paste the underlayers right onto the screen, you use the actual underlayer feature. o.O


#157 Moosh

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 07:05 AM

QUOTE(Evile @ Apr 27 2011, 01:20 AM) View Post

Yoshidude/Despair:
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I think you're looking too deeply into this.Yes, the screens look similar, but we can only have so many beach screens before they start to resemble one another. Honestly, here's the similarities I see in the first pair of screens:
-Bottom closed off by water
-Top right closed off by trees
-Dock
-Mountain on the left side of the screen

All of these are typical trends in beach screens or just screens in general. It was probably a complete coincidence that they both had these features in common.

As for the second screen, it's just a typical beach screen with corners blocked off by trees (which people do a lot) and a house in the middle (which people do a lot) and water at the bottom (which people do a lot).

Unless Yoshidude actually states that he stole those screens from Despair, I'm going to continue saying that this is a coincidence that was bound to happen and could have happened to anyone.

@Robin: I think it's a trick for multiple undercombos which (while rather unnecessary) uses layers -2 and -3 for undercombos. This is useful for screens that already have secret combos used on them. Or it may be that he forgot he wasn't on layer 0 when placing those.

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QUOTE(Yoshidude @ Apr 26 2011, 07:44 PM) View Post

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You will of course say this is an admission of guilt, but let me provide an alternative: perhaps your statement hurt his feelings causing him to remove the offending screen.

Edited by Pokemonmaster64, 27 April 2011 - 07:08 AM.


#158 Geoffrey

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE(Robin @ Apr 27 2011, 04:36 AM) View Post

Something I noticed, why are you putting underlayers (cut bushes, cut grass and so on) on a layer?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't bushes only work if they're on Layer 0? Besides, you don't paste the underlayers right onto the screen, you use the actual underlayer feature. o.O

I think he has the underlay on layer 3, which is the same as I use. When you go into "view map" it acts as if "layer 3 is underlay" is unchecked.

#159 Alestance

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 08:05 AM) View Post

You will of course say this is an admission of guilt, but let me provide an alternative: perhaps your statement hurt his feelings causing him to remove the offending screen.


What is your problem? Almost everything I see in here from you is blind favoritism, and unnecessary defense at the aid of someone. I also notice that its only a few people. Specifically people whom are newer.

You keep perceiving EVERYTHING as an attack to newbies, and I'm starting to think that you're purposely trying to wage some kind of war against veterans. Infact I'm positive that this is exactly what it is.

First you run to Lynker's side to defend him, who hardly needed any defense to begin with, and now its Yoshidude that you've chosen to protect. Seriously, this is becoming offensive and borderline trolling.

#160 William

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 07:05 AM) View Post

All of these are typical trends in beach screens or just screens in general. It was probably a complete coincidence that they both had these features in common.

Is this a joke? I think it's blatantly obvious that he copyied the work. I've made quite a few beach screens, and none of them look anything like copies.

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 07:05 AM) View Post

You will of course say this is an admission of guilt, but let me provide an alternative: perhaps your statement hurt his feelings causing him to remove the offending screen.

Eh? Yeah, it probably did hurt his feelings. But that doesn't matter, really. He wouldn't take his screen down just for hurt feelings.

And one more thing, Pokemonmaster: Have you noticed that you are the only one fighting it here? Yoshidude himself hasn't even replied in the thread. I have a feeling that you care too much about getting involved in every fight here at PureZC. Alestance really took the words right out of my mouth; every time there is even a small argument with someone new, you join in on there side. Even if they don't really have a side, like here. Yoshidude himself isn't even arguing your point.

Edit: Something else I caught: Even the detail on the screens are the same; the shells, rocks, etc. I think that pretty much proves it's a copy. If you're going to copy a screen, at least change the detail. Fo' rizzle

Edited by William, 27 April 2011 - 10:47 AM.


#161 Moosh

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 11:40 AM

I'm sorry, I'm not meaning to troll anyone, but I honestly thought it was a coincidence. Also, the reason I tend to defend the newer members is because I feel people have been very nice with their criticism of my work and I'm not seeing the same niceness in the criticism others have been receiving. I think either they deserve the same kindness or I deserve the same harsh criticism.

QUOTE(William @ Apr 27 2011, 09:38 AM) View Post

Edit: Something else I caught: Even the detail on the screens are the same; the shells, rocks, etc. I think that pretty much proves it's a copy. If you're going to copy a screen, at least change the detail. Fo' rizzle

Wut? I'm not seeing it. Are you saying that everything is in the same place or just that the same tiles are used?

Edit: Also, I feel that from what I know of Yoshidude, he would never intentionally take someone else's work.

Edited by Pokemonmaster64, 27 April 2011 - 11:49 AM.


#162 Russ

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 11:50 AM

Look carefully. See on the first screen, how in Despair there's a rock at the top, a clam shell on the right, and a spiral shell near the middle? Look where they are on Yoshidude's. Notice the broken sign on both of them? Or on the second one. See those three palm trees to the right of the house in the same pattern? Or that one halfway on the left side of the screen? Everything's there, and for the most part, in the exact same place. It's obvious that he copied the screen.

#163 Moosh

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(Russ @ Apr 27 2011, 10:50 AM) View Post

Look carefully. See on the first screen, how in Despair there's a rock at the top, a clam shell on the right, and a spiral shell near the middle? Look where they are on Yoshidude's. Notice the broken sign on both of them? Or on the second one. See those three palm trees to the right of the house in the same pattern? Or that one halfway on the left side of the screen? Everything's there, and for the most part, in the exact same place. It's obvious that he copied the screen.

Oh, I guess I see it now...once again, I find it really shocking that Yoshidude would copy someone else's screen, but I can kinda see it now.
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And one more thing, Pokemonmaster: Have you noticed that you are the only one fighting it here? Yoshidude himself hasn't even replied in the thread. I have a feeling that you care too much about getting involved in every fight here at PureZC. Alestance really took the words right out of my mouth; every time there is even a small argument with someone new, you join in on there side. Even if they don't really have a side, like here. Yoshidude himself isn't even arguing your point.

Also, do you want me to leave? I mean I'm not doing one of those pathetic "If you gonna be mean I'll just leave" hissyfits. If people here feel that I'm being an obstruction on this site and want me gone, then please let me know and I'll just go.

#164 William

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:40 AM) View Post

I'm sorry, I'm not meaning to troll anyone, but I honestly thought it was a coincidence. Also, the reason I tend to defend the newer members is because I feel people have been very nice with their criticism of my work and I'm not seeing the same niceness in the criticism others have been receiving. I think either they deserve the same kindness or I deserve the same harsh criticism.

I give the same criticism to everyone. Nobody is special. I give the same criticism to you as I give to everyone else. I think different people must have given you criticism then, because the way I criticize hasn't changed.

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:40 AM) View Post

Wut? I'm not seeing it. Are you saying that everything is in the same place or just that the same tiles are used?

Take another look at the screen shots.

QUOTE(Pokemonmaster64 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:40 AM) View Post

Edit: Also, I feel that from what I know of Yoshidude, he would never intentionally take someone else's work.

Take another look at the screen shots.

Edited by William, 27 April 2011 - 12:00 PM.


#165 Moon

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 12:01 PM

I really wasn't TRYING to copy those screens, I was just looking at a bunch of maps and thats kinda how the screens turned out (The other screens look nothing like anything I have seen before) and I will delete them, if you want me to

Edited by Yoshidude, 27 April 2011 - 12:10 PM.



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