Best place to learn from?
Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:10 AM
So, I ask you, where are the places on the wide web where I can learn
and related neccessary (commonly used) languages AND preferably see how well I do?
Things I will learn at Webpogrammer: (I only include the scrictly computing related ones)
1. Computing basics, Operational Systems I., Server Administration, Handling of graphical information, Script languages, Cisco network academy I., Mathematical practicum, Safety questions of webprogramming.
2. High level programming languages I.-II., Basic knowledge on algorhythmizing, Database systems, System organizating, Programming technologies
3. HTML knowledge, Webdesign and tipographics knowledge, Form handling and CGI programming, Dinamic WEB programming, Webportal creation on CMS bases, Designing of modular websites, New generational Web technologies, Web-programming on .NET/Java bases, Confoguration and management of online databases, Creation of multimedia source files I.-II.
Things I will learn at Programdesigner Informatics:
Practically everything about computing from the very mathematical/logical bases through languages and operational systems to practical creation of huge databases, websites, applications and managing whole ISP networks.
For what will I casually use the information I get?
-trying my hand at scratch-programmed games
-being able to critize computer related products (including ZC) better
For what will I seriously use everything that I learn?
-being able to make my own websites instead of hiring professionals for that
-being eligible to join/found a computing company (note that I'm having my Business Administration diploma quite soon)
-being eligible to take part in official console/PC videogame making
It also was a smaller dream of mine to be ZC developer when I learn enough of C++ for that, but I don't know now...
Any site I'm pointed to will be looked up immediately, then I'm casually learning from them during summer so that I know more than practically nothing.
Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:11 AM
Also browse their site and try to learn a little of both SQL and php. Will come in handy for scripting pages later as well as manipulating a database. Most likely you'll learn some of this already but it can't hurt to go in and already know something about what you're studying.
The W3 can't help you learn C++. Look for a book that also comes with examples. Best way to learn is by picking apart the examples and figuring out why and how each piece of code does what it does.
You are also going to want to take some design courses; even ones that aren't computer-focused will still have information and practices that can be applied to your work.
Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:36 AM
Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:55 PM
Posted 27 May 2009 - 08:38 AM
You're walking along by a lake.
Let's imagine that the lake is a pool of knowledge of C++.
You bend down, and scoop up a cup of water. That cup of water is your knowledge of ZScript.
If you were really good at writing ZScript, you might be able to take out two cups.
In the rest of the lake lies a whole lot of new problems, which is the step up from using a few functions with make ZC a bit more accesable to writing things yourself.
Anyway - crappy analogies aside - C++ is a (very) big step up from ZScript.
To be honest, all that I think I took from ZScript when I started learning C++ was logic reasoning. Other than very basic syntax, I had to learn pretty much everything else.
What makes you say that?
I had a couple of books, but I didn't really use them.
I learnt mostly from the website TK posted, along with just playing around and stuff.
Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:33 PM
Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:37 PM
When you said 'w3', I thought it was some strange way of saying 'www.', and you meant the internet >_<
Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:06 PM
If you want to make a game, then you would have to add the game logic on top of that.
I use C# more often because it is easier than C++, has pretty much the same syntax as C and Java, and is completely object-oriented. You have to write less code than C++. The mono project made the C# language multi-platform (works on Windows, Linux and Mac).
About Zscript : I'm afraid, but real programming is harder than zscript and most of the code you make is invisible to the human, while code in Zscript can be seen immediately. There is also something called a debuger that helps debugging the program.
I've never made a website, so I can't say anything about that. =P
Posted 30 May 2009 - 07:14 PM
Well, as far as I know, the first two years of college will consist of very little offline programming, mostly just webprogramming, but C++ will be a separate subject line from the third year.
My progress so far:
So, really thank you all.
(And I thought I would learn C++ in 1-2 years good enough to make a C++ game that is as long as official console games... The world isn't really simple.)
Posted 31 May 2009 - 03:35 AM
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