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#1 LikeLike888

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:31 AM

Please feel free to talk about, bust etc. myths, misconceptions etc. anyone knows of.


Here is one myth I will bust in this post.


Myth #1: It is absolutely (unrestrictedly) impossible to get something from nothing.


Fact #1: False. That which has always existed came from absolutely nothing.
For example the fact that the singing sounding voice to the song
The Way It Is by Bruce Hornsby and The Range
is an always existant fact that came literally from nothing.

#2 Anthus

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:48 AM

When a tree falls in the woods with no one around, it does in fact make a sound.. Or does it? Sound is defined as the interpretation of noise, or vibrations. If there are no ears to convert the movement of sonic waves to sound, then is it still a sound? Yes. Why? Just cause no one is around to see ice doesn't mean water can't freeze.



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Posted 11 July 2017 - 09:30 AM

There's a whole big list on Wikipedia that I spent a few hours reading.  I've probably forgotten them all, but it was a very nice list.

 

I hope nobody edits back in that blurb about Earth being the biggest planet in the world again.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:15 PM

Space is cold -

This seems to stem from the idea that without energy in a vaccuum, there must thus be zero heat. In truth, a vaccuum cannot "cool down" as it contains no matter to either heat or cool. An individual floating in the void would experience no change in temperature from the inside of a spaceship. In fact the average spaceship has more problems cooling off because of the electrical equipment on board heating up. In a vacuum there's nowhere for the heat to radiate
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:42 PM

Speaking of space, skin is usually strong enough to stop your blood from boiling and so you probably won't explode. In fact, a human can survive in a vacuum without protective gear for a few seconds without damage.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 04:19 PM

Speaking of space, skin is usually strong enough to stop your blood from boiling and so you probably won't explode. In fact, a human can survive in a vacuum without protective gear for a few seconds without damage.

true, but worth noting that even if your blood vessels don't explode, your lungs may still if you try taking a deep breath before going out there. Even then, I don't want to imagine what it would feel like to have them compressed and sucked flat by the vaccuum. very uncomfortable I imagine. 

small sidenote regarding my "space is cold" entry - things in the vaccuum DO eventually get freezing cold due to the lack of energy and/or matter to radiate to, but this is an extremely slow process, as an object must first use up all the heat it has. It can't spread it out or lose it, because there's nowhere for it to go. The object simply has to use it up itself. This, again, is part of why space stations, shuttles, etc have bigger problems keeping cool than staying warm. 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 07:24 PM

I remember watching an episode of Mythbusters, where they busted the myth that if you run through the rain, you will get less wet than if you walked instead.  It was quite fascinating.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 07:36 PM

I remember watching an episode of Mythbusters, where they busted the myth that if you run through the rain, you will get less wet than if you walked instead.  It was quite fascinating.

 

Huh, I'd think it would be the opposite. Like, if you run through rain, you'd get more wet since you are passing through the rain quicker. Rain falls so randomly, that the speed increase would only put you in more contact with it, I'd wager. But, I dunno. I think people just run in the rain to get out of it   :P. Hm, but then again, less time in the rain = less water hitting you. The plot intensifies.

 

Dunno if this counts as a "myth" or "misconception" but I found the whole battle betweent Atari/ Tengen and Nintendo to be really fasciniting. The NES was so prolific, and huge cause of a lot of factors. Nintendo ruled the industry with an iron first for a time, and other companies didn't like it. You have here, essentially homebrew going on to try to bypass Nintendo's lock out practices, and it went all the way to the high courts forcing Nintendo to reconsider its ways of controlling what comes out on their systems. Nintendo did a LOT of dodgy stuff before the sunny days of Reggie and Iwata (rip). Here's a video about it, if anyone is interested, but it's quite long. Very well done, and researched though.

 



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:07 PM

You can't see the Great Wall of China from space. Before spaceflight was possible, a lot of people figured you should be able to, but then they tried it out, and nope.
 

I remember watching an episode of Mythbusters, where they busted the myth that if you run through the rain, you will get less wet than if you walked instead.  It was quite fascinating.

That was one they ended up overturning later. Apparently, their artificial rain affected the outcome. When they redid it with real rain, running did work better.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:35 AM

Myth #1: It is absolutely (unrestrictedly) impossible to get something from nothing.


I disagree on the basis that no one has ever physically discovered or encountered truly 'nothing' in the history of mankind. Granted, this is a bit difficult to abstract to reason, or even argue for, since all paths seem to lead to infinity. I'm sort of glad I'm not a theoretical-astrophysicist--I would probably go insane. :)


I remember watching an episode of Mythbusters, where they busted the myth that if you run through the rain, you will get less wet than if you walked instead.  It was quite fascinating.


Do you guys remember what season that was from? I haven't watched Mythbusters in a long time (season two-ish?) but I seem to have access to the entire catalog. They must have screwed that up..?

I would think that running would be more effective than walking as long as exposure t(ime) < t where (clode to) complete saturation occurs. Maybe in a heavy rain it'd take only 15 seconds or something anyway, but it's kind of interesting.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:26 AM

People too easily say ___ doesn't exist without evidence. That's as ridiculous as saying something exists without evidence.

 

In regards to Tengen (Atari) vs. Nintendo, I ultimately have to side with Nintendo. Yes Nintendo was too strict, BUT licensing was one of the tools needed to help build trust among consumers after the tidal wave of shovelware that happened under Atari. Nintendo had a hard time even getting started in the US, hence the US redesign of the console and marketing strategy. After all that it's no wonder Nintendo would be stricter than not. And while too strict sometimes, I think it was worth it to get the video game market up and running again.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:27 AM

I disagree on the basis that no one has ever physically discovered or encountered truly 'nothing' in the history of mankind.

Well, the limit of knowability or of that which has empirically been experienced is not the limit of being or truth. For instance: In the history of mankind no one has ever seen a dinosaur - okay now you will argue that we found the bones and hence have good reasons to believe that there have been dinosaurs. Granted. Here's a more tricky one. The following sentence is true:

The last dinosaur died either on a monday or on a tuesday or on a wednesday or on a thursday or on a friday or on a saturday or on a sunday.

We have absolutely no way of asserting the truth of this sentence but it is certainly a true sentence that accurately depicts reality. So being and truth transcent knowability. And since nothingness could in a similar way be unknowable and can not empircally be tested for we don't have good reasons to plain reject the possibility that (probably paradoxically) there is nothing.


A common myth is that schizophrenia is a form of psychopathology where the person in question splits into multiple personalities. That is not the case. Schizphrenia is a kind of psychosis, too, but it's got more to do with hallucination (and also with a number of negative symptoms) and nothing with mulitple personalities. What people usually call schizophrenia is actually the disassociative personality disorder.


Edited by Sheik, 13 August 2017 - 05:30 AM.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:59 AM

You can't see the Great Wall of China from space. Before spaceflight was possible, a lot of people figured you should be able to, but then they tried it out, and nope.
 
That was one they ended up overturning later. Apparently, their artificial rain affected the outcome. When they redid it with real rain, running did work better.

 

Wow, I definitely missed that one.  I only watched a limited number of episodes back when they were available on Netflix, so that must have not been included.  Either way, better to carry an umbrella.




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