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[congo23]

[edit] n/m

Edited by congo23, 30 July 2015 - 03:16 PM.

[Dark Ice Dragon]

yep, the first boss was really hard, it was more easy the boss of the outside box...where is the next dungeon ?

Edited by Dark Ice Dragon, 30 July 2015 - 04:21 PM.

[TheRock]

Its in a house. You will see a stairs.

[Shane]

Congrats on completing Slave World, looks like a lot of effort and neat tricks were put into this quest. That said, I'm really mixed about the production of this quest thus far. You may have seen my comment on the database, but I want to put them here too.

• This quest has some really artificial difficulty going on. Unexpected 1HKO moments galore and overpowered enemies introduced before even getting a sword. I mean bombchus? Really? It doesn't help that their explosions are most of the time unavoidable. Why not something simpler like, you know, Ropes? C'mon man this is Level 1, and we don't even have a sword. This is not balanced. And if it wasn't bad enough, try enemies that do 2 hearts damage in narrow corridors. This is not a challenge.
• I am going to say it, the puzzles dropped the bomb too early. Some of these puzzles don't feel like they belong in the early levels. They're frustratingly complicated, especially the ice one where you get the boss key. I would understand if this was level 8 but this is level 2.
• The quest was designed with a shield in mind based on the demos, so I see no reason to exclude it. Your reason (based on another thread) was laziness, and that's not going to fly when you're trying to make a good quest. Sorry, it just isn't. Changing one simple element can break almost everything. I would understand if this quest wasn't designed with a shield in mind, but it was initially.
• I can't get over the fact that Ganondorf is being treated like a loving son. That, and a kid and slave. And Slave World? Maybe come up with an actual name, I mean Holodrum wasn't called "Season Land". And sure, story is not everything but it clearly is some of the focus here.
  
  That said, here are the positives:
   
• Some puzzles were nice, and fitted their respective dungeons.
• The "magic" level had one of the best puzzles in this quest by far.
• "Magic" was honestly a good dungeon overall, and was pretty disappointed that it was a mini-dungeon.
• The "story" isn't abandoned after the intro, which is nice to say the least, despite me not being fond of it.
• It has effort put into this quest, and some neat tricks, as I said.

That said, I finished Level 2. I might play more eventually, but I dunno. This quest feels like a roller coaster of great and questionable design. I love it yet I am growing more and less unnaturally frustrated as I go along. I don't know what to say man.

[TheRock]

I just put in a update so you start with a shield. 

[Dark Ice Dragon]

thanks for the hint, i found it and completed the mini dungeon, i also found the Lv4 and almost clear it,, but i need to resolve 2 puzzle, what mean Au,Cj,Bx,Df ?

[TheRock]

thanks for the hint, i found it and completed the mini dungeon, i also found the Lv4 and almost clear it,, but i need to resolve 2 puzzle, what mean Au,Cj,Bx,Df ?

A = 1. u = 21. I'll let you solve the rest.

[Demonlink]

Spoiler

Okay, I feel cheated. First, there are four main levels and then Level 5 which LOOKS like the final dungeon. But... Then comes one mini dungeon and THREE trial dungeons almost the size of the 8x8 DMap!?

Not only that, but when I got to the Labyrinth, I lost it. You need to beat a massive 2 8x8 floor dungeon first!? Dude, when will I get to the top!? Is there more to this? I'm actually getting a bit frustrated. AND, there is no way to get a potion now or something among these top floors. Backtracking can be a pain right now.

*sigh* Sorry if this sounds a bit strong, but I took a break for today at the Labyrinth. I'll continue my progress tomorrow.

Edited by Demonlink, 31 July 2015 - 10:56 PM.

[TheRock]

Spoiler

Okay, I feel cheated. First, there are four main levels and then Level 5 which LOOKS like the final dungeon. But... Then comes one mini dungeon and THREE trial dungeons almost the size of the 8x8 DMap!?

Not only that, but when I got to the Labyrinth, I lost it. You need to beat a massive 2 8x8 floor dungeon first!? Dude, when will I get to the top!? Is there more to this? I'm actually getting a bit frustrated. AND, there is no way to get a potion now or something among these top floors. Backtracking can be a pain right now.

*sigh* Sorry if this sounds a bit strong, but I took a break for today at the Labyrinth. I'll continue my progress tomorrow.

 

Spoiler

One reason for having so many levels in a row is it was that or give you a random item to enter the next level. Another would be this was only going to have five levels and no mini dungeons. You will get to the top once you get to floor 13.

Edited by bmc10011, 01 August 2015 - 02:54 PM.

[Demonlink]

Spoiler

One reason for having so many levels in a row is it was that or give you a random item to enter the next level. Another would be this was only going to have five levels and no mini dungeons. You will get to the top once you get to floor 13.

Spoiler

However, keep in mind that extra large dungeons can be quite tedious to complete. Players will get a bit frustrated with the final floors.

[skatz25]

can you further explain the puzzle with the four blocks  Au, Cj, Bx, Df.  I do not understand the logic even after the hint A=1 u=21

[congo23]

I just applied your update and started my game up again (I'm in level 2), and I don't have the shield.  Please don't tell me I need to start over from scratch again to have the shield.

[Dark Ice Dragon]

can you further explain the puzzle with the four blocks  Au, Cj, Bx, Df.  I do not understand the logic even after the hint A=1 u=21

yes, please, i think i  understand the logic of letters and numbers but i still not resolved it, even if i have the solutions of the additions and subtractions i still don't understand how move the blocks for "enter the solution"

[Demonlink]

yes, please, i think i  understand the logic of letters and numbers but i still not resolved it, even if i have the solutions of the additions and subtractions i still don't understand how move the blocks for "enter the solution"

Spoiler

Check the Blocks on the Ceiling. Check the blocks on the floor. It's a rather simple puzzle. What I did was take in mind how many "letters" are far away from point A to point B. So, in this case, Df would be a length of 3 letters. And lastly, check the operation block in the middle of the block cross. The rest is up to you.

Edited by Demonlink, 02 August 2015 - 03:48 PM.

[TheRock]

I just applied your update and started my game up again (I'm in level 2), and I don't have the shield.  Please don't tell me I need to start over from scratch again to have the shield.

Sadly yes. This is because the intro data is only works if you just start up the quest. There's no way to fix this other then putting the shield in a random spot in the game, however if you look up Zelda Classic Glitches (in the forums) there is a way to give yourself the shield.

Edited by bmc10011, 02 August 2015 - 05:12 PM.