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[Espilan]

Yo SLG: You should maybe use spoiler tags? Not everyone's going to know (or want to be spoiled) about the new stuff that was added for the remake itself.

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[SkyLizardGirl]

 

Yo SLG: You should maybe use spoiler tags? Not everyone's going to know (or want to be spoiled) about the new stuff that was added for the remake itself.

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There i fixed it.*

Oi

Edited by SkyLizardGirl, 18 September 2017 - 01:01 PM.

[Cukeman]

Hm, there's also Super Mario Bros. DX for the GameBoy Color, and a remake of Kirby's Adventure for the GBA called Nightmare in Dreamland which are both made by Nintendo. EDIT: There's also a remake of Kirby: Super Star for the DS.

 

 

You're forgetting Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Pokken Tournament DX, Super Mario Maker 3DS, Hyrule Warriors Legends, LTTP + Four Swords, and all of the NES Ports on GBA. They aren't exactly light in the ports/remakes/remasters.

 

 

Kirby's developed by Hal, (kind of like how Game Freak develops Pokemon) I wouldn't call ports remakes or upgrades, then you'd have to include the GCN releases of OoT and every Virtual Console game, and those are still the original versions.

 

But I don't want to derail this thread with lists

[Anthus]

I'm pretty sure I know the boss you're talking about here, it hits really hard even through the upgraded suit's damage reduction.

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The last phase in particular is a bit of a ????? moment unless you've been paying attention to how certain things in the environment work.

 

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The new final boss is easier than the Queen, in my opinion. That doesn't make it less awesome though, and the Baby taking an active role in the final phase is a nice call forward to Super Metroid.

 

You should check out the Chozo Memories gallery in your save file's options when you have a chance.

 

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Yeah, it was the large Robot near the end. It was way harder than the Metroid Queen, and Ridley. Ridley caught be by surprise, but only to an extent. The game could have been fine without him, but I do like the nod to the Metroid helping you out here.

 

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The Final battle with the Metroid queen was Anti-climatic just as i predicted.

 

And that Fan remake's final battle was still tons better than Nintendos version.

That i showed you guys early on in this topic to begin with pages back.

 

However, it always seems they throw in Ridley as the true final boss which kinda seems redundant and unnecessary.

 

 

However- i am hoping for a Super Metroid and Fusion remake now because of the cliff hanger at the end of the game remake..*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[spoiler]Yeah, at this point, I would not be super surprised if they did get remakes. At the end after Samus leaves, it shows an X parasite attack one of the weaker mooks you fight at the beginning.

 

I dunno what's going on with these spoiler tags, sorry.

[The Satellite]

Well I finally bought this today. Looking forward to it, when I get some free time. Had to pick it up on a day family came over...

[The Satellite]

Nine hours, ten minutes, fifteen seconds. That's my final time for this game that I highly enjoyed. The 360-degree aiming and melee attacks were integrated quite well into the game and, after getting used to them, they complemented the gameplay of Metroid. I'll admit some of the melee counters for bosses could feel a bit automatic, but I appreciate that it still required good timing on your part to even execute them. Plus, they're completely optional (to my knowledge), so they're not intrusive.

 

It may be a more linear Metroid experience, but it still provided some open-ended opportunities within each sector at points. I had feared that the 2.5D would make tells for hidden pathways more obvious, but this wasn't the case. ... entirely. I could spot pathways hidden in the background at times, but I still had to search for the proper block to get into them. Admittedly, at first I thought the Scan Pulse item neutered exploration a bit, but in the end I found it not really any more broken than the X-ray visor in Super Metroid. Technically this one's more limited, since it takes power from a gauge. The only real disparity is that you get it much earlier than the X-ray visor, so you can complain about that, or just not use it.

 

The Aeion powers are neat, and I like how they were actually integrated into the gameplay instead of being shoehorned bonus items that did nothing. In fact, I'm a big fan of how this is basically a completely new experience from Metroid 2 and not just a retread with prettier graphics. I'm also a big fan of how they give some of your inventory additional uses so that they don't become completely invalidated just because you pick up something better later.

 

If there are any downfalls to this game, it's lacking in enemy variety and boss battles against Metroids get really repetitive really fast, at least for the earlier evolutions. However, these encounters are a lot more involved than they were in the original game and actually involve strategy! It's just... well, it's easy to get bored by the encounters when they show up over and over. However, the handful of unique bosses in the game are well-done and some are among the series' best.

 

If you like Metroid, you should play this game, but you probably already have by now since it's been out since September 2017. This was a great experience and gives me hope for the future of Metroid for the first time since Prime 3.

[Jared]

Man you’ve already beaten it? I got it launch day and I’m still stuck!

[The Satellite]

I know my Metroid... sort of. Where are you stuck at?

[The Satellite]

I've started a Hard Mode run. Wanted to try it out, wanted to re-experience the game, and an endgame spoiler reason...

 

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Because of the Ridley battle, you can't get a full map clear if you hadn't gotten the opening ship area cleared out before you kill the Queen. Honestly the only real flaw with this game, and admittedly I do kinda dislike that there are powerups barred by needing the Baby Metroid to break walls for you, although I admit I do like running around the world with my little buddy.

 

I've also learned a neat new trick: Using the ice beam on enemies then meleeing them one-shots many of them. Nice.

[Anthus]

I never really posted my thoughts on this game as a whole. 

 

I remember liking it, except for one boss. Sadly, I don't really remember much of the actual game though. I remember feeling like all the areas kind of blended together. I mean, they look different, but the design of the levels is pretty consistent throughout. AM2R kind of had this problem too, but it had some memorable set pieces like the water plant area, and the giant chozo statue holding up the planet.

 

I did not like how every time you enter a room with lava it started blasting Lower Norfair music. I like that song and all, and maybe it's just me, but it's a bit played out at this point, imo. This is an incredible minor gripe, and borderline nitpicking.

 

The Aeon abilities where cool too. I usually don't like when sequels drastically change long-standing systems, but this was done well enough. Scan pulse in particular, but they could have made a less grating sound for when breakable blocks are in the room.

 

I'm not really a fan of the Metroid fights. Not cause they're bad, but because they start to feel samey really fast. Then there are those Zetas that like to make you go to multiple rooms, no thanks.

 

I have to be perfectly honest here though. I liked AM2R better. Perhaps I should play this again, as I only beat it once, and have beat AM2R three or four times, so I might be biased.

 

One more thing. This isn't really directed at this game in particular, but I don't really like the whole "it's a side scroller but it's 3D woooo". There can be spatial awareness issues with platform edges. Cave Story 3D had this problem too, and I kind of steer away from the 3DS Sonic games cause the forced 2D looks so unnatural in a 3D space. Samus Returns does it well enough to not be a huge bother, but I generally like my side scrollers to be 2D art. One advantage it does have though, is it allows you to have things like Samus aiming in any direction, which was a great touch.

 

Samus was very fun to control in general as well, but I really missed the instant morph ball button. I know you can tap the screen, but still.

[The Satellite]

I suppose I can agree with the sameyness a bit. And yeah, the repetitiveness of the boss fights was another flaw I had, as well as low enemy variety in general. However, I still highly enjoy this game, especially now that I've just 100%'d hard mode. One other minor complaint I'll spoiler just in case...

 

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I somewhat hate that you can't get 100% items without the baby Metroid, but at the same time, it's kind of awesome to run around the planet with your Metroid buddy.

 

But I had trouble putting this game down in both playthroughs. It's that fun, it's that good of a Metroid game. Or game in general. Bravo to Sakamoto and MercurySteam, who I at first didn't trust to do pull this off due to Other M for Sakamoto and... basically anything MercurySteam has touched. But they both brought their best talent and made an awesome game that I'm glad we got. Hopefully the future of Metroid is bright starting with this one.

[Anthus]

I can see them making more 2D Metroid games, especially given the little thingy that happens at the end. I mentioned it earlier, in a spoiler box, but,

 

Major End Game Spoiler, must clear in under 4 hours to see (which I did on my first time)

https://youtu.be/Jn0AtrPu3JA?t=119

 

Time stamps don't work with media tags. But there it is.

 

Edit: on that note though, AM2R's message at the end hit me right in the feels. I'm surprised they didn't do this for the official game.

 

https://youtu.be/8VR...ga0yPmAE?t=641 Another time stamp.

 

Also, does anyone else find it odd that in Metroid Fusion, Samus' suit is said to fuse with her organic tissue, yet when she dies, the suit flies off, to reveal normal skin, and an under-suit-bra-shorts thingy?

[The Satellite]

You don't need to clear the game in four hours to see that. I took nine hours both runs and saw it.

 

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And it is awesome. Although I honestly hope it's just a way to tie things to Fusion, and not a hint at a Fusion remake. That game's fine as is.

[Nicholas Steel]

AM2R is still getting updates, just not by the original developer. Check the Reddit for the game to find the updated builds. It's also been updated to include an Item Randomizer.

[The Satellite]

Although speaking of the future of 2D Metroid games, Metroid Dread when?