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[Architect Abdiel]

I've made it to Pragmatic's dream. I believe I am almost done with this playthrough. I am enjoying this game. I may play it again in the future.

[Architect Abdiel]

I can't seem to get through the Pragmatic's dream. The anti-gravity sends me up to second screen, but when I enter the second screen, I can't move in any direction.

[Solynutt]

I can't seem to get through the Pragmatic's dream. The anti-gravity sends me up to second screen, but when I enter the second screen, I can't move in any direction.

even if you go into the blue zones? I don't understand
Maybe this video can help you: https://www.youtube....v=gbTFp8Cs9O8

If can can send me a picture of where you're blocked maybe ?
maybe here: 



can you go to the left and to the right ?
 

[Architect Abdiel]

I am blocked in the one tile gap on the bottom left. I can turn left and right, but my player never goes up on the screen.

So I never had a chance to reach the blue zones.

[Solynutt]

Hello everyone.

I wanted to say that I am still working on the game.

 

• some bugs fixed
• one way has been completely redone to be more visible (the one where you try to defeat the game itself) 
• 4 new levels.
• the scenario more understandable, shorter dialogues
• the endings are no longer penalizing at all.
• less sensitive subjects

 

And other small corrections. 

I don't expect a new start, but I figure that for the few new players, it will be an unambiguously better experience.

Thanks again for your help. The game come soon.

[SofaKing]

Sounds like you tried to respond to feedback, but I hope you still stuck to your overall vision.  You showed a lot of skill as a game designer.

[Solynutt]

I made sure that people understand that it's not me, the creator of the game, who's talking, but the character you're controlling at first. 

Secondly, I noticed that the "game endings" give people a reason to "dislike the game". Even though it's only 20 seconds of gameplay, I've noticed that it makes a difference to people when the game tells them "you didn't take the right path". People think I'm punishing them because I don't agree with the path they took, but it's just that the character you control has a goal. I've made it much more understandable.

I've made every ending, pretty much, a non-punitive ending or so. Furthermore, the endings no longer say "you were wrong" as the avatar you control would like to say, but rather show the repercussions that your choices have on the avatar.

I made the storyline more understandable too. 

The subjects that were too "risky", I toned them down.

 

I don't know if all this distorted the game, but I really took note of all the advice and applied all of them :x

Edited by Aroten, 18 December 2021 - 07:13 PM.

[Shane]

 

I made sure that people understand that it's not me, the creator of the game, who's talking, but the character you're controlling at first. 

Secondly, I noticed that the "game endings" give people a reason to "dislike the game". Even though it's only 20 seconds of gameplay, I've noticed that it makes a difference to people when the game tells them "you didn't take the right path". People think I'm punishing them because I don't agree with the path they took, but it's just that the character you control has a goal. I've made it much more understandable.

I've made every ending, pretty much, a non-punitive ending or so. Furthermore, the endings no longer say "you were wrong" as the avatar you control would like to say, but rather show the repercussions that your choices have on the avatar.

I made the storyline more understandable too. 

The subjects that were too "risky", I toned them down.

 

I don't know if all this distorted the game, but I really took note of all the advice and applied all of them :x

 

I'm going to give your a quest another playthrough at some point. Congrats on the update progress!

[Jenny]

will be giving this another try once the quest is updated

[Russ]

One comment I have, having not finished the game, but played about half of it (been too busy to finish yet, sorry).

 

Spoiler

It seems like the way to get the "right" ending is to kill the Ifs. But this isn't at all clear in the first one, where, with the information you're given, it feels like a bad thing to do. By the time it becomes clear, it's too late to fix your mistake. And the game is long enough that being locked into a decision like that, realizing you're several hours in and have several more to go but are stuck on a certain path, feels annoying.

[Solynutt]

One comment I have, having not finished the game, but played about half of it (been too busy to finish yet, sorry).

 

Spoiler

It seems like the way to get the "right" ending is to kill the Ifs. But this isn't at all clear in the first one, where, with the information you're given, it feels like a bad thing to do. By the time it becomes clear, it's too late to fix your mistake. And the game is long enough that being locked into a decision like that, realizing you're several hours in and have several more to go but are stuck on a certain path, feels annoying.

 

Originally, this was deliberate for the replayability of the game, but you're right, in the new version that will be released soon, the player will be told "what the main ending is", or at least, the path that Tails will advise us to take.

However, I insist that the "main path" is not necessarily a good ending and few have taken it on their first playthrough. Thank you to confirm that point and thank you a lot for testing my game!


Thank you Shane & Jenny too !

Edited by Aroten, 19 December 2021 - 10:41 AM.

[Solynutt]

So, some new levels for a new way



I maybe need one / two testers but I think, this game is over again!

[Solynutt]

The second update is complete!

I don't expect to have a lot of players, my game will probably fall into oblivion but I'm happy to have finished it anyway!

However, for people who would like to play this new version:

• I need you to evaluate my game. Feel free to rate my dungeons and/or scenario/graphics/sound design here!
• If something in this game still bothers you, don't hesitate to say it here. Please do not be malicious. I don't think I'm closed-minded. I will make changes if they are still needed.

I think I have some last bug to found, maybe a final update n°3?
Anyway, your advice will be useful for my next game (it will not be made on zquest but I will show it here). Your help will be invaluable. You are my starting point. I started this game a long time ago so it's still complicated to correct, but your comments will always be very important. 

Thanks again for having me, I'll take care of the feedback (if I have any more) and sorry for my bad English, I'll make sure to become even better at it too

 

Happy new year!

Edited by Aroten, 01 January 2022 - 12:57 PM.

[Shane]

Congrats on the update! Also I look forward to seeing your next game, and what this update holds! Your English is pretty good as it is, don't worry too much.

[dr_henke]

Both new versions seems to be in French. But it looks very cool!