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#76 Mani Kanina

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Posted 10 October 2020 - 07:12 AM

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#77 Sans

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Posted 03 March 2021 - 02:16 PM

Alright so i trying to do the Fall of Stones dungeon (i don't have anything that would light me in the darkness) but i'm kinda stuck there and there.

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In that room i couldn't go very far because of something that hurts me (probably spikes) so the only place i could go it's where the torch is.



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In that room i couldn't figure out how to go on the other side or the right down side because it's too dark and my way is blocked by block that i can't push... 



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Also i've trying to figure out about that deeper and darkest pit but i did find none except pits that hurts me.



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It may be means nothing at all but i trying to figure out something about thoses. For the first one do i have to find something that i cannot reach ? 


I only have thoses items
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and i couldn't go further and some area is blocked by beta things. I couldn't even explore the Eye Ruins or something like that and i cannot beat that stupid red dragon which i guess it's a final boss (even with the magic ring) without at least a red potion that i don't have anymore or a powerful sword but i can't take the said sword in the forest because it takes my life... So yeah i'm very stuck in there. I only had 53 rupees. 
 


Edited by Sans, 03 March 2021 - 02:18 PM.


#78 Useless Old Man Wisdom

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 02:57 PM

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It may be means nothing at all but i trying to figure out something about thoses. For the first one do i have to find something that i cannot reach ?

 

You can do something on this overworld screen, which will allow you to access some new overworld screens and another entrance to Fall of Stones. Like so much else in the quest, what you have to do on the pictured overworld screen isn't immediately obvious, but makes total sense once you have done it. That new entrance to fall of stones allows you to do something very useful in order to navigate through the dark dungeon.

 

Again, Fall of Stones

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Also i've trying to figure out about that deeper and darkest pit but i did find none except pits that hurts me.



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and i couldn't go further and some area is blocked by beta things. I couldn't even explore the Eye Ruins or something like that and i cannot beat that stupid red dragon which i guess it's a final boss (even with the magic ring) without at least a red potion that i don't have anymore or a powerful sword but i can't take the said sword in the forest because it takes my life... So yeah i'm very stuck in there. I only had 53 rupees.

 

At this point, you need to beat red dragon in in order to progress. Attacking with the rune projectile is very useful until you run out of magic, then attack the dragon with your sword. It is quite possible to beat the red dragon without a potion, given that you have the red-ring item, but not easy. You might have to totally start over and keep your potion until you absolutely need it. Big spoiler:

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Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 04 March 2021 - 02:58 PM.


#79 Sans

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 03:09 PM

Alright i'll try to give it a shot and hopefully i'll manage to progress. It's kinda too bad that you can't buy anything unless you find rupees inside a chests in my opinion. 



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Posted 04 March 2021 - 03:19 PM

Alright i'll try to give it a shot and hopefully i'll manage to progress. It's kinda too bad that you can't buy anything unless you find rupees inside a chests in my opinion. 

 

This quest was inspired by Yeto's quest and Island of Yeto, where rupees were limited and there was only one red potion (so use it wisely) respectively. Arguably, these are both bad design choices, but are what they are.

 

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Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 04 March 2021 - 03:23 PM.


#81 Sans

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 03:43 PM

I did found the secret shop some time ago but i can't afford that right now because of the high price. So anyway... i've been trying what you told me about that water source for the new entrance of the Fall of Stones but the things is that i don't understand anything at all. I means i did look at the pictured overworld like that 

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(that's the currently pictured map)

But the thing is that it doesn't make any sense to me. I've also trying something with the tablet that nothing is wirtten in the wall in one of the entrance i did found but nothing seems to work. 

One more thing that makes me wonder... In the dank caverns there's a switch and a like fire camp there and the thing i wondering is what it supposed to do once the fire camp is... in fire ? 


Edited by Sans, 04 March 2021 - 04:42 PM.


#82 Mani Kanina

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 05:01 PM

I only have thoses items
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You're missing an item from Spatial Space that would be very useful for you to have for the dragon fight. Potions are limited at this point in the game and it's recommended you save them for when you need them, there should be I think two avalible that you *could* pick up, in theory (assuming you haven't already).
 

This quest was inspired by Yeto's quest and Island of Yeto, where rupees were limited and there was only one red potion (so use it wisely) respectively. Arguably, these are both bad design choices, but are what they are.
 

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There's actually...
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Edited by Mani Kanina, 04 March 2021 - 05:07 PM.


#83 Sans

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 05:40 PM

when you said that i missed something you mean that something inside that chest in question ?

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I've tried all directions to go there but nothing seem to takes me there. Ether i go back to the entrance, or i find the save point, or i found myself there.
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That button doesn't working at all and all other chests except thoses two is opened. 


Edited by Sans, 04 March 2021 - 05:47 PM.


#84 Sans

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 09:01 PM

Nevermind for the first one i did saw the little trick. I've forgot that you can travel certain walls in certain dungeons and that dungeon was one of them. How could i missed something that simple as that i wonder. Like you said about the item it helped me alot to take down the red dragon (with the help of a red fairy), but now i'm generaly confused. 

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How ? I means it can't be nothing there if it was a secret right ? If so why it was placed here in the first place ? ^^' 

Also i got the star thing but i had absolutly no idea what to do with that. I did find a portal near of the tower but it only take me in the village that i suppose it serves as a shortcut somehow. 

And also this puzzle is even beatable ? Because while i almost had it there's always a block that will block the 4 ways blocks and thus i always seem to screw up the puzzle always at the very last moment :/ All i could do is place only one of the two block in the right spot while the other is blocked because of that.

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Edited by Sans, 04 March 2021 - 10:04 PM.


#85 Mani Kanina

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 10:18 PM

Also i got the star thing but i had absolutly no idea what to do with that. I did find a portal near of the tower but it only take me in the village that i suppose it serves as a shortcut somehow.

If you got the star that means you beat the game, everything past this point is post game, so do it only if you're having a good time and like figuring things out on your own.

And also this puzzle is even beatable ? Because while i almost had it there's always a block that will block the 4 ways blocks and thus i always seem to screw up the puzzle always at the very last moment :/ All i could do is place only one of the two block in the right spot while the other is blocked because of that.

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Yes, this block puzzles is very beatable, there isn't any trick to it, it's just hard and requires thinking ahead.

#86 Sans

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 10:36 PM

Alright then. I'll try to do my best in there but that's still very hard to figures out some things. Like for exemple the water spot hints in the desert zone. Supposely i could find a candle there but i still haven't figures out about the new entrance of the Falls of Stones that would leed me there. 

Edit: nevermind i did find the solution by pure hasard by trying bombs.

Also i had find a bug there.
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I guess that's the reason why the letter is not in my inventory even when i did find it in the golden chest.


Edited by Sans, 04 March 2021 - 11:22 PM.


#87 Useless Old Man Wisdom

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Posted 04 March 2021 - 11:38 PM

Alright then. I'll try to do my best in there but that's still very hard to figures out some things. Like for exemple the water spot hints in the desert zone. Supposely i could find a candle there but i still haven't figures out about the new entrance of the Falls of Stones that would leed me there.

 

Here's the answer in plain English (clicker beware).

 

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How ? I means it can't be nothing there if it was a secret right ? If so why it was placed here in the first place ? ^^'

 

That screen and "secret" is a very, very subtle hint about a nearby screen.

 

 

 

Also i got the star thing but i had absolutly no idea what to do with that. I did find a portal near of the tower but it only take me in the village that i suppose it serves as a shortcut somehow.

 

You don't really do anything with the PSS star, but the Drake PSS star does allow you to explore the post-game if you want to.

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Yes, this block puzzles is very beatable, there isn't any trick to it, it's just hard and requires thinking ahead.

 

I assure you, Sans, the quest maker is right. I too thought this block puzzle was unbeatable until I beat the puzzle. Beating the puzzle allows access to the staircase on that screen, but the stairs lead to the Dark Cave, which there is no sense in trying to explore until you find a candle. You will die quickly in the Dark Cave if you can't see well.

 

You might also want to search earlier in the thread for some hints I gave to Malstygian about how to find the very important item that allows you to access new areas and to then make progress in the post game. The item in question is a big secret, and a lot of the post game is as hard as simply finding the item which allows access to the post game in the first place, which is why I'm being coy about it. PM me if you just want the answer for how to find the super secret item.


Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 05 March 2021 - 12:17 AM.


#88 Useless Old Man Wisdom

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Posted 05 March 2021 - 12:03 AM

There's actually...

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i stand corrected, now that I recall. To anyone else reading, it's a pretty big spoiler:

 

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Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 05 March 2021 - 12:05 AM.


#89 Sans

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Posted 10 April 2021 - 10:00 PM

Okey so now i've restarted to play at the quest but now i need help for only one thing: It's to find the last of the fairies. I've got 14 to 15 fairies and unformately i cannot find it either on the overworld, neither in the regional cave (since i've probably got 2 fairies from the cave where the maze is. I remember correctly to having found the fairy in the left side of the maze but the right side i've probably got it. I've also found a cave from the snowy village (in the main overworld not in the snowy overworld) but the cave is empty so my guess is that it's a troll cave. I've cut every single bushes and explored every single dungeon but there's only 2 dungeons that have fairies it seems and it's in the UnderSea Ruins  (don't remember if it's the correct name) and in the Dank Cavern which it's very well hidden inside a wall 2 rooms before the boss... For any of you who has already found every fairies or some by suspecious areas or stuffs please tell me where to go because every place that Usless Old Man Wisdom has told me i've already done those and he said me that none of those is in the dark cave or in the forest maze. I was told that if i got all those fairies there will be something that would help me alot for the Whirlwind Tower (which is incredibly and insanely difficult. Especially because of the timer that is kinda stressfull.



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Posted 11 April 2021 - 09:26 PM

I sent another PM, Sans.

 

In regards to the whirlwind tower:

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Edited by Useless Old Man Wisdom, 11 April 2021 - 09:28 PM.



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