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[TheLegend_njf]

Oh, then i got it. Dissapointing fight to be honest. Level 9 Venser is much, much harder. But i guess Oslov isn't supposed be as difficult as Venser.

 

 

Edit. I can't find the fourth tablet. Also can't find the last life upgrade.

 

I'm pretty sure the intention was to beat him after Hauntrock. If you beat this battle using Russ' advice (It was Dimentio's advice for me). You are pretty much given an unsatisfactory optional battle with an unsatisfactory reward. I actually didn't even see a point in it really as it just felt forced in for the most part. 

 

NJF has a guide in progress that will help you.

 

I was waiting on you to tell me where the missing items were from what I've already written. lol There's only a couple missing from the list I provided you in pm. (Like one feather and maybe a health and magic treasure chest or something).

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 11 September 2016 - 04:15 PM.

[Norzan]

I went ahead and beat the game. Final boss is just

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Tartaros

expect far worse. Evan somehow made a boss that was pure garbage worse.

 

 

To be perfectly honest, i didn't liked this quest. Everything is just bleh, it left no impact on me. Bosses are either boring or overdesigned messes. You picked Trinexx which is one of my favourite ALTTP bosses and made it really bad.

 

I fought Frogger X and i have no clue on how you beat it. It's just another overdesigned mess. I already feel bad for criticizing some IoR bosses, i rather fight the Medusa than any boss of this quest.

 

Sorry for being so negative, but it's how i honestly feel.

Edited by Norzan, 12 September 2016 - 02:09 PM.

[TheLegend_njf]

I found Tartaros in this game was actually much more fair mainly due to the absent Death Knights.

 

Without the random spawning death knights, this battle is actually quite fair.

 

Frogger-X on the other hand which requires you to use that high RNG useless *%&#ROCK$^$#* over and over again is another story. 

 

In all fairness to your criticism though, as I mentioned before, I found myself pause buffering a lot because many boss attacks in this game seems to move faster than normal human comprehension. IoR had that same issue, I just never really paid much attention to it. So there's that. But that could also just be my reaction time. But I never really thought my reactions were slow. Though they're probably slower than the people who bug tests Evan's quests.  

 

I also forgot to rate this quest! Time for me to go do that. 

Edited by NewJourneysFire, 13 September 2016 - 08:10 AM.

[Norzan]

I specially loved when he used the curse shotgun attack and immediately use that dark rush attack. I would dodge the shotgun but get hit by the rush attack because i had to pick an attack to tank since there was no way for me to dodge both. Same stuff would happen with the fire shotgun and ice shotgun (Seriously Evan, what's your deal with the overusage of these terrible attacks?). Jesus Christ.

 

I beat the final boss with arrows after trying to kill it with the type matchup gimmick. Died 5 or 6 times trying the type matchup schtick but i said screw it and went for arrows. And guess what, killed him on the second try with half of my health intact. Is it supposed to be like this? Because if the type matchup is the ideal strategy, then no, it isn't.

 

Oh, and that wavy status effect can burn in the deepest pits of hell.

 

I'm overall dissapointed by this quest. I mean, i wasn't hyped or anything, but i was hoping for better.

 

This quest made me want to replay Isle of Rebirth. I may have several issues with that quest, but i can still have fun.

Edited by Norzan, 13 September 2016 - 11:55 AM.

[Alucard648]

I specially loved when he used the curse shotgun attack and immediately use that dark rush attack. I would dodge the shotgun but get hit by the rush attack because i had to pick an attack to tank since there was no way for me to dodge both. Same stuff would happen with the fire shotgun and ice shotgun (Seriously Evan, what's your deal with the overusage of these terrible attacks?). Jesus Christ.

 

I beat the final boss with arrows after trying to kill it with the type matchup gimmick. Died 5 or 6 times trying the type matchup schtick but i said screw it and went for arrows. And guess what, killed him on the second try with half of my health intact. Is it supposed to be like this? Because if the type matchup is the ideal strategy, then no, it isn't.

 

Oh, and that wavy status effect can burn in the deepest pits of hell.

 

I'm overall dissapointed by this quest. I mean, i wasn't hyped or anything, but i was hoping for better.

 

This quest made me want to replay Isle of Rebirth. I may have several issues with that quest, but i can still have fun.

I wish the final boss would be immune to everything but the type matchup gimmick. And wavy status effect also reverses directions at random. And any boss attack can, at random deal 4x original damage, up to instant death (with gore-splode effect) on Swindling.

[grayswandir]

I specially loved when he used the curse shotgun attack and immediately use that dark rush attack. I would dodge the shotgun but get hit by the rush attack because i had to pick an attack to tank since there was no way for me to dodge both. Same stuff would happen with the fire shotgun and ice shotgun (Seriously Evan, what's your deal with the overusage of these terrible attacks?). Jesus Christ.

It's been awhile since I played this, but I don't recall having too much trouble with attacks like this - I'd just pop the moosh and jump straight over them. I honestly don't remember the final boss too well, since it took so much less effort than Frogger X.

 

I don't recall intetionally pause buffering, but I did do a lot of "legitimate" item switching. (Such as switching to moosh if I think I'm about to get hit.) 

 

Same thing with Frogger X. I'd dodge where I could, and moosh where I couldn't, until he moved into a pattern I knew I'd be able to hit him in, and then spam the needed attacks while I could. But until then, I'd do perfect defensive play, even if I had a decent chance of hitting him.

 

Though, I gave up on him on swindle, since I was tired of the rocks screwing up, and hitting an off element somehow and now I have no idea what's missing because I'm colorblind and bleh.

[Deedee]

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I think I'm going to give up on Frogger-X for Swindle until some fix is made for Sasic's rock attack. (I've been practicing. lol)

 

Seriously, I love everything about this fight, but I just hate using that attack. 

 

The rock is completely broken in this battle I feel. It's a game changer every single time. I find sometimes the rock doesn't even hit the frog when it's clearly direct contact, and when it does hit the frog, the element doesn't light up even when the frog has taken damage from it, and the attack overall is completely RNG and awful to avoid, and it takes up to 5 hearts of damage! You see everything about this attack is just awful to me. lol

 

I suspect that you gave the rock this price so people refrain from using it during bosses. But when you make a boss that forces you to use this item at least 4 (5 or 6 or even more if the rock just refuses to make contact) times in the battle, and it's just a very nasty attack that turns an enjoyable boss into a not enjoyable boss. 

 

Sorry man, I tried, but I won't be beating this one because of how lame that boulder attack is executed. Consider this the first ZC boss I truly gave up on, but not for the right reasons.

 

On a more positive note though, I know I can beat this boss at least. I came close to at least one or two more hits a few times in this battle. But the rock is total bullshit for me to want to continue at this point. I'll probably just beat the game on Stronger and maybe one day return to Swindle if there is some fix for that worthless boulder item. If anything Evan, it needs better accuracy and less of a price for using it, just don't make it so OP that's all. The attack in it's current state is borderline silly in my opinion.

Fun fact, you can (or at least could, if Evan fixed it) completely break the fight by

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using the rock attack, then spamming Wind over it. You're invulnerable for a good period of time, and he will never become immune to rocks because he thinks you are hitting him with Wind. This means that he will never use the Black Hole attack, and keep attacking without much strategy

[Evan20000]

I fixed that a while ago.

[TheLegend_njf]

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using the rock attack, then spamming Wind over it. You're invulnerable for a good period of time, and he will never become immune to rocks because he thinks you are hitting him with Wind. This means that he will never use the Black Hole attack, and keep attacking without much strategy

 

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*%&#ROCK$^$#*

[OmegaX]

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Did you download the music pack from the quest description? That had to be downloaded separately. That music can go either in the same folder as ZC OR in the same folder as the quest file. Then it should work.

 

I did download the music pack in the description and put it in my ZC Folder, I just don't know what else to do... Wait a minute, Is the music pack suppose to be a RAR File.

Edited by MegaX, 21 November 2016 - 08:58 PM.

[Russ]

Wait a minute, Is the music pack suppose to be a RAR File.

You have to unzip the RAR file with a program like WinRAR. The music files are inside there, and THOSE are what need to be in either the quest folder or the ZC folder.

[OmegaX]

Problem Fixed, thanks Russ

[OmegaX]

Well I have two words for this boss, Ice Madness. took me 6 tries but i got the first key. (Bonus, Did it on Swindle).

Edited by MegaX, 22 November 2016 - 02:12 PM.

[OmegaX]

I heard this quest had multiple different endings depending on how you play it(So far i got the medicine for Sasic brother). What are the requirements for each ending?

[Evan20000]

You've passed the bad ending. The true ending requires finishing all the optional elemental bosses.