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[Tree]

okay, i have a screen with Pokemon grass.



simple. but, when you cut say,


there, there, and there.


but then,it ends up like this. were the grass that is above the grass that is coming out of
the ground is just floating there.


I want it to when you cut said grass showed above, it turns into this.
but i don't know how to do that. Any help?

[Moosh]

I'm pretty sure that's impossible without scripting. Possibly impossible even WITH scripting...

[Tree]

I'm pretty sure that's impossible without scripting. Possibly impossible even WITH scripting...

then why bother making tiles for the grass? that was to who ever made these tiles.

[Eddard McHorn Van-Schnuder]

then why bother making tiles for the grass? that was to who ever made these tiles.

First off, it's not impossible with scripting, I am certain. Secondly, I don't think you should go off saying that whoever uploaded said tiles just "wasted their time" or whatever. If something doesn't work the way you want it to, don't use it, but don't come here and tell said person that his work was pointless. That's not very nice, and if I was said person, I would be offended. I'm done.

[Alestance]

Its possible with scripting. It involves detecting whether each individual tile is Tall Grass or a certain combo number. Its not that difficult.

Also, I'd like to point out the reason anyone submits anything or makes anything: To be creative. Or maybe its to get some street cred, also?

Just because they're in the database doesn't mean you can expect them to work properly when used, or could possibly work properly when used. They're there because someone worked hard to make them or rip them, and no rule states they have to be useful.

[Tree]

First off, it's not impossible with scripting, I am certain. Secondly, I don't think you should go off saying that whoever uploaded said tiles just "wasted their time" or whatever. If something doesn't work the way you want it to, don't use it, but don't come here and tell said person that his work was pointless. That's not very nice, and if I was said person, I would be offended. I'm done.

well i am not going to use lame"lttp" tall grass in a "dor" game. this grass looks really cool. but it just dose not work properly.
can any one else suggest cool looking tall grass that i could use?

[Shane]

then why bother making tiles for the grass? that was to who ever made these tiles.

I'm positive that this grass was not meant for cutting but for overhead nonsense.

[Geoffrey]

I'm positive that this grass was not meant for cutting but for overhead nonsense.

He's right, although you could got someone to script what you want, these were originally not for cutting.

Edited by Molten Onyx, 26 June 2010 - 01:20 PM.

[Master Maniac]

Try using a cycling combo on them. That may work.

[Tree]

Try using a cycling combo on them. That may work.

i'm not all that good with combo cycling yet...

[Radien]

well i am not going to use lame"lttp" tall grass in a "dor" game.

What's lame about it? Most of DoR is designed after LttP, even if it doesn't always use tiles ripped from LttP.

And in any case, I seem to remember that I drew animated grass to include in the DoR tileset. I don't mean to sound vain, but I thought it was kinda cool.

can any one else suggest cool looking tall grass that i could use?

Have you checked Minish Cap? It might have single-combo tall grass.

Just make sure that each individual tile can be removed without throwing off the "pattern." Then you know it can be used in ZC (without scripting, anyway).

then why bother making tiles for the grass? that was to who ever made these tiles.

While I agree with Migokalle that you're being a little too harsh, I wanted to comment...

The introduction of scripting into ZC has led some people to submit graphics which are not very useful in ZC, with the justification that they can be implemented with scripting.

The usefulness of these tiles varies wildly. If you don't consider grass to be very important, obviously you will hardly want to import a script just to handle your grass. But in theory, some people REALLY want unique grass and would be willing to import a script for it. (Or write one, even. Somebody's gotta write it.)

However, there's no fair way to weed out graphics that require scripting but aren't worth the effort. So it's up to you to read the descriptions and figure out whether you want the tiles or not. The most we can do as staff is to add a note to the submission pointing out that the tiles require scripting.

[ElLibertador]

I can try setting something up for you. I can't do it till this weekend though. You see there's a pretty simple fix.

What I'm going to do is:
1. Make a better undercombo.
2. Make an undercombo that connects to the grass above it.
3. Make a separate undercombo for the top of the tall grass so it doesn't look choppy.

If you use this and set up your undercombos right it'll look fine I think. Like I said though, I'm traveling right now and won't have time till this weekend.

Edit - By the way, this was even a problem for Nintendo In TMC the tall grass has the same graphics problem and wasn't fixed. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Edited by Rafael, 30 June 2010 - 08:56 AM.