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[LinktheMaster]

Try to think of where the world would be without ads.  Many sites that people frequently use wouldn't exist.  There wouldn't be image hosts like imgur, for example.  Many online comics wouldn't exist.  Places like Hulu and CrunchyRoll wouldn't be able to allow people to watch shows online for free.  TV across the world would be entirely different because everything would have to be paid for.  The world revolves around money, and ads are a way of giving people free content.  Sure, you can make the argument that "well I'm just one person."  But that's a flawed mentality.  What if everyone believed that?  Then no one would get that content.

 

You seem to act like these are only people with hobbies of putting things on the internet trying to make some bucks off to the side.  For lots of these people, it's their jobs.  Its their lives.  Some of these things are actual companies trying to provide people amazing content for free.  And for what?  Just seeing some repetitive 15 second ads?  What you're doing is no different from pirating, except it's worse in that it's impacting smaller people at a lot larger of a ratio than big corporations.

[Moonbread]

The majority of webcomic artists I follow need ads for revenue.  Jeph Jacques, author of Questionable Content, makes his entire living off of his comic and its ads.  It's his full-time job, and 5 days a week, he makes a new comic for all of us, which is way harder than you think it sounds when he has to have an original script every single day.  He pays the bills, buys the groceries, etc. with this money.  It is a real job.  Not every job is a stereotypical desk job or retail or food industry or whatever makes you hate your life until you die.  A real job is whatever pays the bills and makes you happy.

 

Also, one of my friends is a webcomic artist who needs revenue from commissions because she cannot find a single job where she lives (I'm a frequent customer of hers).  She has applied everywhere she can, constantly looks on craigslist, etc, and has been doing this for several months.  This is the only way she can make a living.

[Ventus]

I guess I just personally don't get why watching ads to support them providing content you don't have to pay a dime for is a huge issue to you. Is there a particular reason?

The reason hehe, yeah it slows down my browser experience man... And I'm sure (I'll be criticized for this I'm sure) that people who are using ad's

aren't losing that much for one person not looking or clicking their little ad's.

 

Oh *Looks at LTM' post* so that well I'm just one person logic is pretty flawed huh?. ha ha. Really though I understand that sometime people do the things they do on the internet for a living. And some companies do provide some great free service's and they need the ad's to keep on providing the said service.

 

I really do understand but there is plenty of people to help fund them.

But its the way I am, I don't like viewing ad's and I don't have to if I don't want.

And another reason I block every ad I can, I want to keep my computer safe from crap that comes from ad's.

 

That's about it really.

[LinktheMaster]

Oh *Looks at LTM' post* so that well I'm just one person logic is pretty flawed huh?. ha ha.

You don't have to act so snooty about it. It's a pretty common saying that people make.  "I'm just 1 person."  Well if 100 people say that, then it's 100 people.  If 5000 people say, it's 5000 people.  You don't have to laugh at me when I merely point that out.

 

But, whatever.  If you're blocking them because you're on dial-up and because of computer issues, then I understand.  I won't be bringing it up again.

[Ventus]

You don't have to act so snooty about it. It's a pretty common saying that people make.  "I'm just 1 person."  Well if 100 people say that, then it's 100 people.  If 5000 people say, it's 5000 people.  You don't have to laugh at me when I merely point that out.

I didn't mean to sound snooty about it, You guys made it sound horrible that I blocked ad's.

I actually found the whole thing amusing, I mean who gets worked up about ad's.

 

 If you're blocking them because you're on dial-up and because of computer issues, then I understand.  I won't be bringing it up again.

Yes this is one of the reasons, on my home computer you need to block ad's on dial up otherwise your stuck waiting on animated ad's to load.

[Hergiswi]

I block as many ads as possible as well. I know it's unfair, but I'm just so jaded from this culture we've created where people are constantly marketing to us. There is just a barrage of ads when you turn on the TV or radio, when you go to the movies, in magazines, all over the internet, in stores over the PA system, etc. If I felt like I had any breathing room whatsoever from advertisers then I'd be a little more flexible, but I can only take so much. Not to mention there are people like Maddox who survive without any ad revenue whatsoever. I know he's the exception and not the rule, but there are certainly people who just whore themselves out instead of tastefully using ads to make some extra cash.

[Koh]

I know he's the exception and not the rule, but there are certainly people who just whore themselves out instead of tastefully using ads to make some extra cash.

I'm half way in agreement with this.  Basically, I feel like ads shouldn't be the only source of income for someone.  If they really want to run a whole site and/or provide content that's costly, ads shouldn't be the only means of paying for it.  It's supposed to be something that HELPS, not SUSTAINS.  It's ideally used in conjunction with, a daytime job or part time job, which when combined would not only pay the bills and whatever other essentials, but also leave a little extra spending/saving money to be used on a rainy day.

[LinktheMaster]

If they really want to run a whole site and/or provide content that's costly, ads shouldn't be the only means of paying for it.  It's supposed to be something that HELPS, not SUSTAINS.

... Says who?  Absolutely no where is there some hidden agreement of society that ads are meant to help rather than sustain.  We have an entire TV industry that is almost entirely built on advertisements.

 

Also, for YouTube channels, what more are people supposed to do?  You can sell DVDs and merch, but oftentimes these aren't very successful in getting anywhere near the money to sustain yourself.  How many people would buy DVDs of stuff they can mostly watch online?  I just don't know what you expect these people to do other than use advertisements.

[Koh]

I just don't know what you expect these people to do other than use advertisements.

 

 

"It's ideally used in conjunction with, a daytime job or part time job, which when combined would not only pay the bills and whatever other essentials, but also leave a little extra spending/saving money to be used on a rainy day."

 

[LinktheMaster]

"It's ideally used in conjunction with, a daytime job or part time job, which when combined would not only pay the bills and whatever other essentials, but also leave a little extra spending/saving money to be used on a rainy day."

So you are basically saying that you don't believe it should be possible for people to be able to have a career based off of just the internet, no matter how much time and effort they put into it?  Most of these people that try to make it a career spend 6-8 hours a day making their content.

[Koh]

So you are basically saying that you don't believe it should be possible for people to be able to have a career based off of just the internet, no matter how much time and effort they put into it?  Most of these people that try to make it a career spend 6-8 hours a day making their content.

If they want to make it a career, and do it by posting their content on sites that's largely free, and/or use the most minimum medium to get it paid off (ads) ONLY, they've already dug their own grave, especially if they are aware of the existence of ad-blocking software.  

[Moosh]

Found it yesterday. My reaction was more or less "I'll find a way to block this too..."

 

Oh but you can! On Firefox, if you go into your extensions section of your addons manager and click filter preferences, you can update your EasyList filters (and subscribe to it if you aren't already) which will block this new adblock prevention measure by Blip.

 

For Chrome users, you have to go into extensions under settings first and then click options and then either add the subscriptions or click update now.

Edited by Moosh, 21 May 2013 - 07:27 PM.

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I never knew that not wanting to look at annoying, rambuctious, and distracting adds was so downright un patriotic and cruel until I read this thread. I never relized that by not clicking on adds I was actually being antiamerican and anti capitalistic. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

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[LinktheMaster]

Some of us just have friends and know people who try to make livings off of the internet that get hurt by adblockers.  It's as simple as that.

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I understand completely. I don't even have an add blocker. All I'm saying is that you make it sound like some sin to use an add blocker when it's really the personal choice of the person to decide whether or not he or she wants to use one. I grudgingly except that some forms of creativity are right now dependent on consumerism and suppose that... I guess... Groan.. Supporting that consumerism is in turn supporting the art. Though it shouldn't be that way. Art shouldn't have to rely on a fickle world.

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